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Colonial Labs removed until further notice

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Welp, I guess we no longer have to guess
 

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I'm not from the US so i'm curious about the law, what time he's probably facing for this?
Depends if it goes state or federal, prior felonies, what type of plea deal his lawyer gets.. Too many factors. Could be anywhere from probation to several years.
 

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So to sum up:

Colonial has been caught

If you received a package days before this happened, products are good to go because it was not an exit scam

If you were expecting a package that got seized, there's nothing to worry about. If you receive a love letter just do nothing.

Just to be safe, if some other vendor offers to replace your missing items, use another address to receive the package.

Thread can be closed now
 

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Hey friends, its no secret that Dragon's domestic lineup was a collaboration with Colonial. Colonial and I go way back to his very first days on SST, teaching him small tips of OPSPEC and such to the modern day where he has returned the favor and has taught me a lot as well.

I can with some certainty say that Colonial will not be back as a vendor. As many of you have guessed, it did indeed have to do with packages missing, specifically on the 14th-16th.

As for anyone who has their packages from those dates missing; I wouldn't worry about police coming to knock on your door or anything. What is likely is that law enforcement has been watching this operation for a while; and only now laid out a bait.

If in the event that your local police does show up, don't even open the door or talk to them, as its very hard to charge you in any way based on one package sent to you.

This was definitely not an exit scam.
If your line up was a collaboration will this mean any side effects for your site? Any items going to be unavailable for a while?
 

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So to sum up:

Colonial has been caught

If you received a package days before this happened, products are good to go because it was not an exit scam

If you were expecting a package that got seized, there's nothing to worry about. If you receive a love letter just do nothing.

Just to be safe, if some other vendor offers to replace your missing items, use another address to receive the package.

Thread can be closed now
I'm just gonna hop back on my prescribed trt and ride it out. After a year or so they'll forget lol.
 

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Its worth noting btw (and this applies for most 'e-crimes' whether it be shipping drug/steroid contraband, other illegal goods like counterfeit items, etc)

That most of these investigations do not start by the Police perusing some Internet forum looking to nab the source. You would think they do, due to the open nature of these forums, but most of the times it actually starts IRL specifically when something in the shipping protocol goes wrong. Eg postal inspector (for whatever reason) opens an item and finds contraband, or perhaps more likely, having an package intercepted at CBP then opening an investigation on the importer (which often includes contact local police, putting a track on the suspected party, etc).

In most scenarios they dont even follow up on the actual client sales to individual customers. Usually it just serves as evidence or as a way to force the defendants hand in accepting some shitty plea agreement where he forfeits all his proceeding to the local PD. I've always wondered how much $ these vendors make, but going off of recent busts Ive seen, it could be anywhere from 500k - a few mill that goes straight to PD forfeiture. Thats really the crux of most investigations, those are huge sums for any PD and investigations usually start / end with that in mind.

Side note, it says they began their investigation in July and the warrant was served in August. That's REALLY fast t/t, Colonial must have been pretty careless with whatever protocol he was following. Few mil in forfeiture proceedings for a month of work... doesn't get much better than that for LE
 

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Its worth noting btw (and this applies for most 'e-crimes' whether it be shipping drug/steroid contraband, other illegal goods like counterfeit items, etc)

That most of these investigations do not start by the Police perusing some Internet forum looking to nab the source. You would think they do, due to the open nature of these forums, but most of the times it actually starts IRL specifically when something in the shipping protocol goes wrong. Eg postal inspector (for whatever reason) opens an item and finds contraband, or perhaps more likely, having an package intercepted at CBP then opening an investigation on the importer (which often includes contact local police, putting a track on the suspected party, etc).

In most scenarios they dont even follow up on the actual client sales to individual customers. Usually it just serves as evidence or as a way to force the defendants hand in accepting some shitty plea agreement where he forfeits all his proceeding to the local PD. I've always wondered how much $ these vendors make, but going off of recent busts Ive seen, it could be anywhere from 500k - a few mill that goes straight to PD forfeiture. Thats really the crux of most investigations, those are huge sums for any PD and investigations usually start / end with that in mind.

Side note, it says they began their investigation in July and the warrant was served in August. That's REALLY fast t/t, Colonial must have been pretty careless with whatever protocol he was following. Few mil in forfeiture proceedings for a month of work... doesn't get much better than that for LE
He dropped the ball big time using redmond drop off. As far as I recall every order I made from him since 2019 was dispatched there
 

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Looking at the picture of the open box with hundreds of vials of gear made me lol a bit. I seriously hope it wasn’t actually sent like that or it no wonder this happened. I know anything I ordered was packaged properly. I’m assuming they did that for an effective photo op.
 

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Looking at the picture of the open box with hundreds of vials of gear made me lol a bit. I seriously hope it wasn’t actually sent like that or it no wonder this happened. I know anything I ordered was packaged properly. I’m assuming they did that for an effective photo op.
Yeah, police like to gloat over their findings with glamour photos like that
 

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Its worth noting btw (and this applies for most 'e-crimes' whether it be shipping drug/steroid contraband, other illegal goods like counterfeit items, etc)

That most of these investigations do not start by the Police perusing some Internet forum looking to nab the source. You would think they do, due to the open nature of these forums, but most of the times it actually starts IRL specifically when something in the shipping protocol goes wrong. Eg postal inspector (for whatever reason) opens an item and finds contraband, or perhaps more likely, having an package intercepted at CBP then opening an investigation on the importer (which often includes contact local police, putting a track on the suspected party, etc).

In most scenarios they dont even follow up on the actual client sales to individual customers. Usually it just serves as evidence or as a way to force the defendants hand in accepting some shitty plea agreement where he forfeits all his proceeding to the local PD. I've always wondered how much $ these vendors make, but going off of recent busts Ive seen, it could be anywhere from 500k - a few mill that goes straight to PD forfeiture. Thats really the crux of most investigations, those are huge sums for any PD and investigations usually start / end with that in mind.

Side note, it says they began their investigation in July and the warrant was served in August. That's REALLY fast t/t, Colonial must have been pretty careless with whatever protocol he was following. Few mil in forfeiture proceedings for a month of work... doesn't get much better than that for LE
Up to 90% of the take can go into the local LE pockets.

One of the reasons you never display wealth of any kind. You want to lease a reliable vehicle, live in a dump and always stash your cash in a place where LE can never find it. If you do get busted you have the money to fall back on. These idiots that flash expensive toys, keep firearms, they're asking to get spanked.

The drug war of course has nothing to do with drugs, it has always been about cold hard cash for the government and bankers.
 

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I'm not from the US so i'm curious about the law, what time he's probably facing for this?
I’m no expert but from what I’ve read is usually they care way more about the fact that you’re laundering money than the fact that you’re brewing some test. I’ve read on other forums that they usually don’t get crazy prison time. But that’s just what I’ve read I’m honestly not sure and every local government is probably different.
 

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Based on that news link, it says that 3 out of 4 suspects had been caught. Which makes me think that he as the head of the operation is still on the run, because he had the time to ask the mods to remove his thread, deleted his mail and website, and I recall someone saying he sent his bitcoin to a mixer. So the authorities probably know who he is because the other ones talked, but maybe he's still out there.
 
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I hate to see (a good source & what used to be my favorite source) disappear.. but that's how it goes sometimes with UGL's
 

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I’m no expert but from what I’ve read is usually they care way more about the fact that you’re laundering money than the fact that you’re brewing some test. I’ve read on other forums that they usually don’t get crazy prison time. But that’s just what I’ve read I’m honestly not sure and every local government is probably different.
Money is the first priority of a drug bust. Anytime they go in they don't care about drugs, it's only when they find money do they squeal with glee. If there was no money/property at all involved in the drug war the cops probably wouldn't care at all.

Most of our legal system is largely based on money when it comes to non-violent crime. When you think about it LE, Courts, Prisons are completely non-productive means of employment, they produce no product or labor that benefits anyone, they are simply parasites that extract the labor from others so they have something to show for their time. It's no different than someone that makes a living robbing people at gun point.

As for time in prison, most of the time it has to do with the operation. The screw ups are the guys that have a team, that don't work solo, that get reckless. You show me a guy that works solo, covers his tracks at all times, lives very modestly, keeps to himself and doesn't bother anyone, looks clean cut and has set his operation up with cameras to watch for police along with a gate and double metal doors with no windows that gives him the time to destroy everything before the cops can enter. We're talking about someone that has set up a way to destroy his lab and everything it has in a few minutes so the Units of Delivery charge can't be used.

And of course someone that remains silent and never talks, doesn't say a word at all if they do get busted.
 

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If your line up was a collaboration will this mean any side effects for your site? Any items going to be unavailable for a while?
We've already taken measures to secure our customers and have fully disabled any access Colonial had to any information. We've also had a quick backup brewer to replace all the orders that were missing and new ones coming in.
 

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If someone ordered from colonial recently like in august and received their pac do they have anything to worry about? Can they track you based off addresses since they shipped From “insert place.” and to you? If I want to order from a new guy should I worry about using the same info? Are we on some sort of list now? What protocols should we follow when ordering from this point on?
 

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If someone ordered from colonial recently like in august and received their pac do they have anything to worry about? Can they track you based off addresses since they shipped From “insert place.” and to you? If I want to order from a new guy should I worry about using the same info? Are we on some sort of list now? What protocols should we follow when ordering from this point on?
This has all been discussed in this thread if you’d read it.
 

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This has all been discussed in this thread if you’d read it.
From reviewing the thread there are a lot of posts that contradict others, as well as people saying information that I am not sure is vetted. If you could please lay down a post consolidating all the facts and how one should move forwards if they lost a pack, received one in the time frame referenced in the article, or just for common knowledge.
 

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From reviewing the thread there are a lot of posts that contradict others, as well as people saying information that I am not sure is vetted. If you could please lay down a post consolidating all the facts and how one should move forwards if they lost a pack, received one in the time frame referenced in the article, or just for common knowledge.
  • There is nothing that can or should be done. You chalk it up as a loss. This is part of the risk of engaging in this kind of business. Take whatever precautions you feel you should.

  • There aren't really any contradictions. There are those that are worried or disappointed and expressing a litany of "what ifs & what do I dos" and then those with experience saying what I put in the first bullet point.

  • One of the vendors earlier in the thread said they would help those who lost an order in the window of events.
 
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