Tren dose that doesnt make you insane

Ive ran tren E twice at about 500mg/wk each time for 12-15 wks. i want to run it again but use ace and run about 30mg ed or 210mg/wk for my last 6-8wks of cycle. ive heard if you keep the dose under a certain threshold you done get the mental sides, atleast not to where i became completely unhinged. does anyone have experience with the tren mental sides and how dosages effect them? especially the feeling of doing/saying things as if you have no inhibition.

Some people also say up the dose and you lose the sides. I felt just fine on 100/day ace. It's ace, play with it, you'll find your sweet spot pretty quick.

Nandrolorian said:

Some people also say up the dose and you lose the sides. I felt just fine on 100/day ace. It's ace, play with it, you'll find your sweet spot pretty quick.

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have you tried tren e and noticed a difference between the two side wise?

Nandrolorian said:

Some people also say up the dose and you lose the sides. I felt just fine on 100/day ace. It's ace, play with it, you'll find your sweet spot pretty quick.

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You have it backwards. Just about every post I've ever read is the higher the tren dose, the worse the sides. This is not personal experience, but from reading probably 100 different posts across multiple forums.

Test4life said:

You have it backwards. Just about every post I've ever read is the higher the tren dose, the worse the sides. This is not personal experience, but from reading probably 100 different posts across multiple forums.

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Sorry brother but I don't necessarily "have it backwards". "Some people also say" isn't end all be all lol. Our tolerances vary greatly. Here's the thing regardless is the injection frequency plays a big role in this. At 100mg eod I felt like I was on a mental rollercoaster. At 50mg ED, way better. But at 100mg ED, *JUST FINE* because that's something that I can tolerate. Clear thoughts, great workouts, great nutrition sleep and hydration, recomp like a champ. But that doesn't mean that it would work for OP or that they could tolerate that high of a dose. For me, a higher dose but more importantly more frequent injections came with great results whereas a lower dose albeit less injection frequency yielded less than desirable sides specifically the lack of emotional control.

That's my personal experience. You'll find others who have had the same. I'm not going to say it's the rule OR the exception. It just is.

jumdumpster said:

have you tried tren e and noticed a difference between the two side wise?

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Eh it's the same compound, depending on your injection frequency is what's gonna really be the ticket here. If you mitigate the fluctuations you should be relatively stable and sides can be minimal. Obv water food sleep prolactin and estro monitoring are going to be paramount but the longer the ester the less frequently you'll have to inject to maintain proper blood levels but that also means if you get sides from the longer ester then they will be around for much longer. Ace will clear out pretty quick and you can figure out what works for you but enanthate is gonna stick around. I'd keep that for when you know yourself well enough on the compound to utilize a longer ester.

In my experience I've only gotten the tren mental sides very seldomly, and it was with high dose ace. 700mg+/wk. Anything less than that range or the e Ester the most I'll get is some of the physical sides, night sweats, etc. Imo a safe bet if you are worried about acting out a bit would but nothing more than 300-400mg/wk. I say that just because it seems like you've ran tren multiple times. Someone who never has I'd say something like 200mg/wk. I still don't understand how guys lose their shit completely, when on blast I'll catch myself getting anxious or feeling frustrated/angry and be able to say to myself 'it's the drugs you volunteerly injected in your body, chill your ass out' but typically I'm in a good mood on blast lol I don't see why more guys aren't, I mean we are making gains, have a constant pump, confidence is through the roof, and the look tren can give you is worth needing to utilize some self control haha. Anyways that's my opinion on the matter and if you can't handle business on the shit just don't take it.

200mg/week of tren-e is the ceiling for me. Anything higher and shit gets real weird.

They say never make life altering decisions while in a crisis. Anything >200 classifies as a major life crisis for me.

Acetate: 150mg/week
Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate: 60mg/week (it's kind of like Enanthate)

I can tolerate Hex better (Hunter Pharm!) but the paranoia is still there. Ace just makes me want to fight all the time, and I'm typically laid-back and mellow.

CialisPalace said:

200mg/week of tren-e is the ceiling for me. Anything higher and shit gets real weird.

They say never make life altering decisions while in a crisis. Anything >200 classifies as a major life crisis for me.

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i agree anytime on tren is basically crisis mode lmao
after my first cycle i vowed to never make decisions on tren but fuckin hell
i think im actually gonna go with ment over tren for this next one. ive only ever had problems with tren mentally so im assuming itll be fine, the only drugs i havent tried are basically deca/npp and ment. kinda scared of being mentally weird on deca too like tren so id rather go for ment, plus i like stuff that hits hard, thats why not doing tren sucks ass

jumdumpster said:

i agree anytime on tren is basically crisis mode lmao
after my first cycle i vowed to never make decisions on tren but fuckin hell
i think im actually gonna go with ment over tren for this next one. ive only ever had problems with tren mentally so im assuming itll be fine, the only drugs i havent tried are basically deca/npp and ment. kinda scared of being mentally weird on deca too like tren so id rather go for ment, plus i like stuff that hits hard, thats why not doing tren sucks ass

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Love ment.

*Love*

Nandrolorian said:

Love ment.

*Love*

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what dosage do you use? i was going to go with 20mg ish everyday for my last 6wks of cycle
i usually only cycle for comps but i think this time im going to run a small blast as a way to really build and take advantage of my offseason when the volume in my training is so high

jumdumpster said:

what dosage do you use? i was going to go with 20mg ish everyday for my last 6wks of cycle
i usually only cycle for comps but i think this time im going to run a small blast as a way to really build and take advantage of my offseason when the volume in my training is so high

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I started at 5mg Ed. Adjusted by week (it's acetate) I'm at 25mg Ed now and this shit is extremely effective for me. That does NOT mean in any way that I'm suggesting any compound at all to you at any dosage. That being said do research because Ment can be side heavy for people. It's coming up all positives for me right now and I'm curious how high I can go before it's diminished. But that will take time, testing, and listening to my body

jumdumpster said:

what dosage do you use? i was going to go with 20mg ish everyday for my last 6wks of cycle
i usually only cycle for comps but i think this time im going to run a small blast as a way to really build and take advantage of my offseason when the volume in my training is so high

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Also if you're trying to build you'll need to out eat tren if you go that route. That can get miserable.

Nandrolorian said:

Also if you're trying to build you'll need to out eat tren if you go that route. That can get miserable.

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bro i fucking know. tren gives me the absolute most insane heartburn

jumdumpster said:

bro i fucking know. tren gives me the absolute most insane heartburn

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Keep an eye on that as it could be a deeper issue than heartburn. Keep water intake higher than you think.

Nandrolorian said:

Keep an eye on that as it could be a deeper issue than heartburn. Keep water intake higher than you think.

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will do if i ever run it again. nexium is basically the only thing that gets rid of it but u can only use it for so long

Nandrolorian said:

Keep an eye on that as it could be a deeper issue than heartburn. Keep water intake higher than you think.

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how many weeks do you run ment btw
and with what other things

What can deeper issue be? Stopped tren like 3 weeks ago heartburn finally going away but still have to take prilosec every 3 days. On cycle had to take every day.

zyzzsickkvnt said:

What can deeper issue be? Stopped tren like 3 weeks ago heartburn finally going away but still have to take prilosec every 3 days. On cycle had to take every day.

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i think it could be bc your prolactin or progesterone is super high but idk for sure
tren heartburn is absolutely no joke. im the only person i know personally who gets it and its absolutely miserable, i can be laying down and it just inches up my until its burning like crazy