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Question for my military people out there.

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They didn’t just slap us on the wrist for failing a PED test in my sea-going armed service. I can only recall 2 guys ever being accused and tested but they both failed and were processed for discharge.

I respect you wanting to be honest with them but imo deny, deny, deny. Just my opinion.
 

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They didn’t just slap us on the wrist for failing a PED test in my sea-going armed service. I can only recall 2 guys ever being accused and tested but they both failed and were processed for discharge.

I respect you wanting to be honest with them but imo deny, deny, deny. Just my opinion.
I don't think you should ever deny, you simply act dumbfounded, but don't ever say anything....just shrug your shoulders and keep on moving.

They can't force you to incriminate yourself, they can't force words out of your mouth and you really don't have to tell them anything at all.

This is 101 how to deal with anyone that can wreck your life whether it be a military problem or LE, you never say anything as no one in a position of power is your friend, they exist to screw you over.
 

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well id say keep doing your normal dosing so it looks normal, rather than if they test you again and its completely different leve. However the trt script in your back pocket ccovers our ass for any sort of B.S about legality of testosterone rather than the flight stuff
idk one of my squad leaders took 50mg dbol and 500mg test with no a.i and couldnt go on patrol because the shin pumps were so bad lol

but yeah fuck that ASAP and all that shit, just dont say anything and let it ride IMO, the more paperwork that pops up wether its good or bad, about anything, the worse it is because any waves are bad waves. Just keep your mouth shut and see how it plays out, because shit might just dissapear.
 

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Quick little update.


Lab tests came back. I won't be specific about my levels but they are sub-600. LH and FSH are both obviously shut down.

No call from the doc. Nothing at work. Nothing crazy has happened yet.

This could be really good or really bad I suppose.

Thanks for the concern everybody.
 

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Quick little update.


Lab tests came back. I won't be specific about my levels but they are sub-600. LH and FSH are both obviously shut down.

No call from the doc. Nothing at work. Nothing crazy has happened yet.

This could be really good or really bad I suppose.

Thanks for the concern everybody.
part 3!!!
 

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Quick little update.


Lab tests came back. I won't be specific about my levels but they are sub-600. LH and FSH are both obviously shut down.

No call from the doc. Nothing at work. Nothing crazy has happened yet.

This could be really good or really bad I suppose.

Thanks for the concern everybody.
I'm following this so closely lol. Hope it works out bro. I'd think with those levels there's a lot of room to not get completely fucked
 

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This is a lot harder to prove than getting popped for drugs. They’re testing your body for something you should already have present, and in an unknown amount. The only red flags are LH and FSH, and what does that really PROVE? Dunno.

My chips are on this not going anywhere and you being ok. Especially since you’ve got a script. Cross your fingers and knock on wood, but most importantly update us lol
 

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Quick little update.


Lab tests came back. I won't be specific about my levels but they are sub-600. LH and FSH are both obviously shut down.

No call from the doc. Nothing at work. Nothing crazy has happened yet.

This could be really good or really bad I suppose.

Thanks for the concern everybody.
Sub 600 shouldn't raise eyebrows, even the lh and fsh being shutdown with 400-600ng/dl of total test isn't inherently rock solid proof of anything. I agree with some other comments saying to just go on with life and don't bring it up to anyone, bringing it up shows nervousness about the results.
 

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This is a lot harder to prove than getting popped for drugs. They’re testing your body for something you should already have present, and in an unknown amount. The only red flags are LH and FSH, and what does that really PROVE? Dunno.

My chips are on this not going anywhere and you being ok. Especially since you’ve got a script. Cross your fingers and knock on wood, but most importantly update us lol

I'm definitely going to keep this up to date for everyone. I'm sure that a solid amount of people on here are in the military in some capacity. I need to go back and edit some stuff out as it's just TMI about what I do.

I haven't heard anything yet boys. Currently, I'm PCTing off of everything so that if they just forgot about me ill have normal levels if they remember. 20mg Novla, 25mg Clomid(Soon E+nclo), and 500iu HCG (Two weeks).
Fun little tidbit the TRT clinic had Enclomiphine Citrate so I got some of that for three months. It's supposed to be way more effective than just clomid.
 
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I'm definitely going to keep this up to date for everyone. I'm sure that a solid amount of people on here are in the military in some capacity. I need to go back and edit some stuff out as it's just TMI about what I do.

I haven't heard anything yet boys. Currently, I'm PCTing off of everything so that if they just forgot about me ill have normal levels if they remember. 20mg Novla, 25mg Clomid(Soon E+nclo), and 500iu HCG (Two weeks).
Fun little tidbit the TRT clinic had Enclomiphine Citrate so I got some of that for three months. It's supposed to be way more effective than just clomid.
Damn. Well good luck man. Hopefully you get a trt script and they can't say shit
 

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Keeping an eye on this too. hope all works out for you brother. Thank you for your service.
 

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Final update:

Well, the saga has ended. And it ended with great news.

If you guys remember when I got my blood test done my test levels were at the low end of normal after stopping for about a week right before the test. Luckily I was just cruising at the time and that definitely saved my ass in more ways than one.

I talked to the DOC today and no secondary tests are needed because "my levels are not indicative of exogenous testosterone usage." but to tell my buddies to "cut it out" if they do. I have come to the conclusion that the doc did me a solid because anyone with a brain could look at my LH and FSH and see they were horrifically shut down.

The last couple of weeks have been pretty anxious for me but luckily it all ended up good in the end. It's insane how fast you lose weight after being on for so long, even with a proper PCT. Eating less is going to suck because It just doesn't convert to muscle like it used to and I love to fucking eat. Pretty demotivated to hit the gym knowing my progress is going to be halted/regressing, but that's just what I have to deal with at the moment. Thanks for all the help and tips yall I seriously appreciate it.
 

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Final update:

Well, the saga has ended. And it ended with great news.

If you guys remember when I got my blood test done my test levels were at the low end of normal after stopping for about a week right before the test. Luckily I was just cruising at the time and that definitely saved my ass in more ways than one.

I talked to the DOC today and no secondary tests are needed because "my levels are not indicative of exogenous testosterone usage." but to tell my buddies to "cut it out" if they do. I have come to the conclusion that the doc did me a solid because anyone with a brain could look at my LH and FSH and see they were horrifically shut down.

The last couple of weeks have been pretty anxious for me but luckily it all ended up good in the end. It's insane how fast you lose weight after being on for so long, even with a proper PCT. Eating less is going to suck because It just doesn't convert to muscle like it used to and I love to fucking eat. Pretty demotivated to hit the gym knowing my progress is going to be halted/regressing, but that's just what I have to deal with at the moment. Thanks for all the help and tips yall I seriously appreciate it.
Congrats man. Life is so much better on the other side when you don't have to worry about the big green dildo :cool:
 

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Final update:

Well, the saga has ended. And it ended with great news.

If you guys remember when I got my blood test done my test levels were at the low end of normal after stopping for about a week right before the test. Luckily I was just cruising at the time and that definitely saved my ass in more ways than one.

I talked to the DOC today and no secondary tests are needed because "my levels are not indicative of exogenous testosterone usage." but to tell my buddies to "cut it out" if they do. I have come to the conclusion that the doc did me a solid because anyone with a brain could look at my LH and FSH and see they were horrifically shut down.

The last couple of weeks have been pretty anxious for me but luckily it all ended up good in the end. It's insane how fast you lose weight after being on for so long, even with a proper PCT. Eating less is going to suck because It just doesn't convert to muscle like it used to and I love to fucking eat. Pretty demotivated to hit the gym knowing my progress is going to be halted/regressing, but that's just what I have to deal with at the moment. Thanks for all the help and tips yall I seriously appreciate it.
great news man, you can use enclomiphene to have higher test levels with lh and fsh active from now on
 

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just keep doing trt, you cant get in trouble from it and if youre low test your mental and physical is going to suffer.
i dont even think docs know what LH and FSH is man, the chart just said youre not above reference range and thats all he knows
if your levels are normal it doesnt matter how you got there
 
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