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How long after starting AI to test E2 again?

AHomie

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Hi everybody,

My cruise has been going great.

100mg Test Cyp twice a week
175 IU HCG EOD

has my
Test from ~300 to 1800
E2 at 65
FSH < 0.7
LH < 0.2

Because of my high E2 + low FSH & LH I want to increase my HCG to 250 IU and have started
3mg Aromasin after test injections

How long do I need to wait to test my E2 again to see if 3mg is enough to get my E2 to the perfect range? The two changes are increasing HCG + starting the AI.
 

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I'd personally would draw blood work around week 6. On a side note, 3mg aromasin is a pretty small dose for 2x/week.
 

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I'd personally would draw blood work around week 6. On a side note, 3mg aromasin is a pretty small dose for 2x/week.
The initial blood work that showed my elevated E2 was at week 6. How long after starting the AI do you think I should wait? Also I think I will boost the Aromasin dose to 6.25mg on pin days. If E2 is still elevated I will raise to 12.5 on pin days
 

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The initial blood work that showed my elevated E2 was at week 6. How long after starting the AI do you think I should wait? Also I think I will boost the Aromasin dose to 6.25mg on pin days. If E2 is still elevated I will raise to 12.5 on pin days

I'd still draw after 6 weeks as aromasin works fairly quick. Research bit more and see if the info you find convinces you to reevaluate your dosage and scheduling of both, test and aromasin. Your e2 is elevated due to a high test dose for a "cruise".
 

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I'd still draw after 6 weeks as aromasin works fairly quick. Research bit more and see if the info you find convinces you to reevaluate your dosage and scheduling of both, test and aromasin. Your e2 is elevated due to a high test dose for a "cruise".
I’m a little confused what you mean by week 6. Do you mean I should wait 6 weeks from when I strted the AI or pretty much just test again right after starting the AI?
 

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I’m a little confused what you mean by week 6. Do you mean I should wait 6 weeks from when I strted the AI or pretty much just test again right after starting the AI?
I'd retest in 2 weeks after starting the AI dose.
 

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I'd still draw after 6 weeks as aromasin works fairly quick. Research bit more and see if the info you find convinces you to reevaluate your dosage and scheduling of both, test and aromasin. Your e2 is elevated due to a high test dose for a "cruise".
I probably shouldn’t call it a cruise but I don’t really have a need to go higher than this and I plan to stay on it for awhile. Naturally I was 250-300 and feeling the effects
 

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I’m a little confused what you mean by week 6. Do you mean I should wait 6 weeks from when I strted the AI or pretty much just test again right after starting the AI?

correct, 6 weeks after the day you start aromasin. AI will work within few days but having a more consistent timeline of usage will give you useful knowledge in the future of how you react with aromasin via bloodwork
I probably shouldn’t call it a cruise but I don’t really have a need to go higher than this and I plan to stay on it for awhile. Naturally I was 250-300 and feeling the effects

ah gotcha. aint nothing wrong with baby blasts at longer intervals to avoid side effects
 

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I would use more Aromasin IMO. A study done in young, healthy men NOT USING AAS found that a single dose of 25 mg of Aromasin suppressed estradiol for a maximal extent of 68% roughly 12 hours after administration. The estradiol remained significantly suppressed for 3 days and took 5 days to fully rebound.

That same study found no difference in estradiol suppression between 25 and 50 mg of Aromasin. This suggests that there is a ceiling effect to aromatase inhibition with exemestane.

I would do 6.125 (quarter tablet) x2 per week IMO
 

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correct, 6 weeks after the day you start aromasin. AI will work within few days but having a more consistent timeline of usage will give you useful knowledge in the future of how you react with aromasin via bloodwork


ah gotcha. aint nothing wrong with baby blasts at longer intervals to avoid side effects
He doesn't need to wait 6 weeks after a consistent dose. 2 weeks is plenty to see where his levels are.
 

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I would use more Aromasin IMO. A study done in young, healthy men NOT USING AAS found that a single dose of 25 mg of Aromasin suppressed estradiol for a maximal extent of 68% roughly 12 hours after administration. The estradiol remained significantly suppressed for 3 days and took 5 days to fully rebound.

That same study found no difference in estradiol suppression between 25 and 50 mg of Aromasin. This suggests that there is a ceiling effect to aromatase inhibition with exemestane.

I would do 6.125 (quarter tablet) x2 per week IMO
As always I am really grateful for your input. I raised to 6.125 twice a week. E2 definitely down a lot, will retest at the 4 week mark and see how the E2, LH, FSH are handling the aromasin and increased hcg
 

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He doesn't need to wait 6 weeks after a consistent dose. 2 weeks is plenty to see where his levels are.
Do you think this holds true for monitoring my LH & FSH changes with the increased hcg? Or should I wait longer if I want to test that too

Luxferro would love your input as well!
 

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Do you think this holds true for monitoring my LH & FSH changes with the increased hcg? Or should I wait longer if I want to test that too

Luxferro would love your input as well!
Never used hcg so not sure.
 

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If you're using exogenous test your fsh and lh will remain close to zero. HCG mimics lh to trick your testicles to activate again.
 

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If you're using exogenous test your fsh and lh will remain close to zero. HCG mimics lh to trick your testicles to activate again.
Thanks for clarifying!! I was thinking HCG triggers LH to be produced not mimics. In that case I will probably lower my dose down to like 200 IU and only retest E2
 

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E2 went up to 84, test showed 1400s while on 6mg on pin days. Thinking I may need to do even more than 12.5mg aromasin on pin days. Maybe 18.5mg? Any suggestions? Can’t imagine the aromasin is bunk as it’s from CL or SF forget who
 

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Why don’t you just lower your test if you want to run higher hcg? You shouldn’t need to run AI on cruise. Aromatase inhibitors aren’t good for you and you shouldn’t have to run one if you’re just on cruise. I can see it if you’re just an outlier who is extremely estrogen sensitive but it doesn’t seem like you are. The smart thing would be to lower your test if you bump up hcg dose. You’ll keep your gains bud don’t trip.
 
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