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2nd Cycle Advice/Critique

Kirbls

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Hey boys, I'm a week into my second cycle which is 500mg test e 500mg primo e and 300mg NPP weekly. I'm matching my primo 1to1 with my test because I aromatize heavily. I'm running this cycle as a "Bulking cycle" and I'm really trying to put on some mass. is there anything I need to change with doses or any tips maybe I should know? Thanks!
(Pinning everyday also Wanting to run this for 20 weeks)
Stats: M 6'0ft 220lb
 
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id drop the npp and lean bulk on test/primo npp will make u look watery and kill the aesthetics
 

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I don’t know yet about the primo hair loss i just finished week 1 so we’ll see i’m also pretty young so idk if that has anything to do with it
 

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im about to start my blast was debating between 500 t 350 p, 500 t 500 p etc. I think 350 p is solid and ill just eat arimidex like candy if needed. I just dont want to crush my estrogen and kill gains only serious concern. I have a puffy nip that im gonna just have to get cut up eventually anyways
 

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Don’t really need to run 3 compounds and over a gram of gear for ur 2nd cycle. What is ur bf %?
 

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im prob gonna go with 500 t 350 p, im 12% rn lowest i got was 10-11 but now my strength is back up.

Edit: oh u were referring to OP
 

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lean bulk / moderate surplus would like to stay at this bf and add a bit of size and further increase vascularity
 

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If it were me I’d run
Test e 500mg 1-20
NPP or Deca 300mg 1-20
Caber .25mg 2x weekly
AI as needed

Npp or deca will help ya build a good base and muscle. It’s a good steroid to start with. Then eventually move on to shit like tren, mast, primo, etc that’ll perfect ur physique.

And don’t count on primo to control ur e2 if u aromatize heavy it doesn’t work that way for everyone. Use ur ai for that and whatever dose necessary. Get bloods done
 

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If it were me I’d run
Test e 500mg 1-20
NPP or Deca 300mg 1-20
Caber .25mg 2x weekly
AI as needed

Npp or deca will help ya build a good base and muscle. It’s a good steroid to start with. Then eventually move on to shit like tren, mast, primo, etc that’ll perfect ur physique.

And don’t count on primo to control ur e2 if u aromatize heavy it doesn’t work that way for everyone. Use ur ai for that and whatever dose necessary. Get bloods done
alright thanks!
 

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If it were me I’d run
Test e 500mg 1-20
NPP or Deca 300mg 1-20
Caber .25mg 2x weekly
AI as needed

Npp or deca will help ya build a good base and muscle. It’s a good steroid to start with. Then eventually move on to shit like tren, mast, primo, etc that’ll perfect ur physique.

And don’t count on primo to control ur e2 if u aromatize heavy it doesn’t work that way for everyone. Use ur ai for that and whatever dose necessary. Get bloods done
yeah im on 150 test 150 primo to see how i respond and the primo is not covering aromatization there is a cosmetic change i think after 6 weeks slightly, but not much for ai effect sadly.
 

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is it dangerous to run caber like that for 20 weeks?
Yeah, you ONLY want to run caber IF you have elevated prolactin levels. I'd say 90% of people using caber, don't even need it. They are merely trying to take precautionary measures without knowing. It's retarded and counter productive.
 
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i had top of range prolactin last cycle didnt take it as i was still in range. How is it counter productive to use?
 

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i had top of range prolactin last cycle didnt take it as i was still in range. How is it counter productive to use?
Using caber, prami, or any ai isn't beneficial unless you're combating a real problem. (Lesser of two evils theory)
 

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Using caber, prami, or any ai isn't beneficial unless you're combating a real problem. (Lesser of two evils theory)
I’m running a test, tren, mast cycle and e2 was 7 which is way too low so I dropped my ai and prolactin was 26 which is way too high. Started caber and things are getting back to normal. People have said if e2 isn’t elevated prolactin will stay normal on tren and nandrolones which now I believe is bs.
 
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