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Bloodwork Microdosing Test-Cyp [100mg E5D]

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Hello everyone,

I just wanted to share something that some people may find useful.

In November 2019 I was taking bad gear and tested at …
Total Test - 13 ng/dL
Free Test - 1.7 ng/dL
E2 - <2 pg/mL

In December I was given a script of 200mg/ml Test-C, although I still sometimes like to use my new sources gear.

I was lucky enough to build a relationship with someone who works in a lab setting at a major university, who basically studies AAS for a living.

He gave me this protocol

Currently taking
100mg Test Cyp E5D
12.5 mg Proviron EOD
45mg Deca E5D
Methylfolate,DIM, NAC every day.

I was advised to wait until right before my shot to get bloods taken, as my results were expected to be above range and I didnt want to alarm the doc.

My current blood work is as follows (120 hours after last pin)
Total Test - 1068 [250-1100 ref range]
Free Test - 335 [35-155 ref]
E2 - Still waiting on results.

I would guess I’m walking around 1000-1500 on a day to day basis, simply pinning 100 mg every 5 days.

I dont know why I felt the need to post this, I was just very impressed with my results and how i’ve felt over the last few months, and i’m beginning to realize… LESS IS MORE. Respect the compounds and they’ll respect you. Use them erroneously, and there will be quite a bit of consequences. The only sides i’m experiencing are an occasional pimple on my upper arm / leg. I’m also extremely grateful for the gentleman who has been helping me along the way.

Cheers.
UC
 
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ucmenow" pid='84615' dateline='1584166416:
Hello everyone,

I just wanted to share something that some people may find useful.

In November 2019 I was taking bad gear and tested at …
Total Test - 13 ng/dL
Free Test - 1.7 ng/dL
E2 - <2 pg/mL

In December I was given a script of 200mg/ml Test-C, although I still sometimes like to use my new sources gear.

I was lucky enough to build a relationship with someone who works in a lab setting at a major university, who basically studies AAS for a living.

He gave me this protocol

Currently taking
100mg Test Cyp E5D
12.5 mg Proviron EOD
45mg Deca E5D
Methylfolate,DIM, NAC every day.

I was advised to wait until right before my shot to get bloods taken, as my results were expected to be above range and I didnt want to alarm the doc.

My current blood work is as follows (120 hours after last pin)
Total Test - 1068 [250-1100 ref range]
Free Test - 335 [35-155 ref]
E2 - Still waiting on results.

I would guess I’m walking around 1000-1500 on a day to day basis, simply pinning 100 mg every 5 days.

I dont know why I felt the need to post this, I was just very impressed with my results and how i’ve felt over the last few months, and i’m beginning to realize… LESS IS MORE. Respect the compounds and they’ll respect you. Use them erroneously, and there will be quite a bit of consequences. The only sides i’m experiencing are an occasional pimple on my upper arm / leg. I’m also extremely grateful for the gentleman who has been helping me along the way.

Cheers.
UC
Love seeing posts like this. Too many people talking about taking 600+ mg of tren and other stuff… We need some leaders in this community to start sharing info like this. More gear does not offset shit diet, training and mental displine.

Great post sir!

Please do share more 🙂
 
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Sane conservative dosing is something we need to see a whole lot more of.

Blasting is bullshit, we get these guys that say “hey man I’m been shooting 2 grams a week of various AAS and every thing was going great until a month later and now I can’t get a hard on, my blood pressure is sky high, I’m covered with acne, my nipples are shooting breast milk, I have pounding headaches, my bed is soaked, I have severe anxiety, my girlfriend left, I started seeing a psychiatrist”.

This is what gives AAS a bad rap, dumbasses that can’t figure out that AAS works and works really well if you just pull back and gradually let it do its work with small doses you’ll reap rewards with none of the problems.

Patience is the key.
 
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Ever since I lowered my blast dose to only 300mg of Test and mild compounds like EQ at only moderate doses (400mg) for longer periods of time (20+ weeks) my gains have been way better than I ever got out of a 12-16 week cycle of 500mg Test + Deca/Tren/Whatever. Just my experience.
 
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Thanks everyone I appreciate the feedback and I’m glad the post was well received. Hopefully others can learn from this and stop overdosing on AAS and have healthier happier lives.

Cheers
UC
 
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So are you a high responder to Test then or is the Proviron increasing this? What is the use of Deca at this dosage? I am genuinely curious. Does it provide any joint relief at the dosage?
 
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So are you a high responder to Test then or is the Proviron increasing this? What is the use of Deca at this dosage? I am genuinely curious. Does it provide any joint relief at the dosage?
I’d say his response to test is pretty average. His total weekly test dosage is 140mg which gives him a 7.6x multiplier. Most people running trt/lower doses of test tend to get higher multipliers than you would with 500mg+.
Just as an example on my 100mg of trt I get around the same total test which gives me a ~10x multiplier.
The proviron is probably increasing his free test though but 12.5mg eod is an odd dosage lol
 
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@“MikeAlstott” The Deca, I forget the exact benefits, but I believe something to do with low-dose deca being beneficial by blocking DHT. I forget the exact science. I was told that there is no studies showing the benefits of Deca on joint pain, however, I’ve heard it being beneficial to a lot of other people and it seems to have helped me, too. Maybe something to do with collagen production. In response to your question about me being a high responder… This very well could be, however I think most people with proper diet & protocol would achieve similar results.

@“Curli” Yea the doseage @ 12.5 EOD is probably a bit odd. I was told I can get away with running 25mg (12.5 morning/night) E3D, but I decided to just do 12.5 EOD. I will probably bump it up to 25mg EOD, but at this point I don’t see much of a reason to.
 
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@“MikeAlstott” The Deca, I forget the exact benefits, but I believe something to do with low-dose deca being beneficial by blocking DHT. I forget the exact science. I was told that there is no studies showing the benefits of Deca on joint pain, however, I’ve heard it being beneficial to a lot of other people and it seems to have helped me, too. Maybe something to do with collagen production. In response to your question about me being a high responder… This very well could be, however I think most people with proper diet & protocol would achieve similar results.

@“Curli” Yea the doseage @ 12.5 EOD is probably a bit odd. I was told I can get away with running 25mg (12.5 morning/night) E3D, but I decided to just do 12.5 EOD. I will probably bump it up to 25mg EOD, but at this point I don’t see much of a reason to.
I see. Deca can reduce DHT, but why would you want to do that in your case?
 
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Hello everyone,

I just wanted to share something that some people may find useful.

In November 2019 I was taking bad gear and tested at …
Total Test - 13 ng/dL
Free Test - 1.7 ng/dL
E2 - <2 pg/mL

In December I was given a script of 200mg/ml Test-C, although I still sometimes like to use my new sources gear.

I was lucky enough to build a relationship with someone who works in a lab setting at a major university, who basically studies AAS for a living.

He gave me this protocol

Currently taking
100mg Test Cyp E5D
12.5 mg Proviron EOD
45mg Deca E5D
Methylfolate,DIM, NAC every day.

I was advised to wait until right before my shot to get bloods taken, as my results were expected to be above range and I didnt want to alarm the doc.

My current blood work is as follows (120 hours after last pin)
Total Test - 1068 [250-1100 ref range]
Free Test - 335 [35-155 ref]
E2 - Still waiting on results.

I would guess I’m walking around 1000-1500 on a day to day basis, simply pinning 100 mg every 5 days.

I dont know why I felt the need to post this, I was just very impressed with my results and how i’ve felt over the last few months, and i’m beginning to realize… LESS IS MORE. Respect the compounds and they’ll respect you. Use them erroneously, and there will be quite a bit of consequences. The only sides i’m experiencing are an occasional pimple on my upper arm / leg. I’m also extremely grateful for the gentleman who has been helping me along the way.

Cheers.
UC
Good post, my man. Less is more is my motto when it comes to AAS. If you don’t mind, what’s your DIM and NAC dosage looking like?
 
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@“MikeAlstott” mostly just slow the role of hair-loss, and help with any acne that may occur. I was told 50mg/wk is the sweet spot.

@“Jack78” the same person who helped me with this protocol, swears up and down about the importance of the DIM & Methylfolate (and NAC of course).
Supposedly the Methylfolate + Dim will rid your body of the oil in the AAS and fecal body deposits. So as the body breaks down the oil and the AAS goes into the blood to the receptors the oil is shuttled to mix with bile to be excreted.

He actually made me take only DIM & Methylfolate, NAC, and a couple of others, for 3 weeks after realizing I was taking bad gear.
1 serving daily.
NAC = 1000mg per serving
DIM = 300mg per serving
Methylfolate -
https://www.amazon.com/Bioactive-Fo...299075&sprefix=elevated+methyl,aps,202&sr=8-2
 
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@“MikeAlstott” mostly just slow the role of hair-loss, and help with any acne that may occur. I was told 50mg/wk is the sweet spot.

@“Jack78” the same person who helped me with this protocol, swears up and down about the importance of the DIM & Methylfolate (and NAC of course).
Supposedly the Methylfolate + Dim will rid your body of the oil in the AAS and fecal body deposits. So as the body breaks down the oil and the AAS goes into the blood to the receptors the oil is shuttled to mix with bile to be excreted.

He actually made me take only DIM & Methylfolate, NAC, and a couple of others, for 3 weeks after realizing I was taking bad gear.
1 serving daily.
NAC = 1000mg per serving
DIM = 300mg per serving
Methylfolate -
https://www.amazon.com/Bioactive-Fo...299075&sprefix=elevated+methyl,aps,202&sr=8-2
Thanks for sharing. I may try to add NPP 25 mg twice a week with my Test shots and see what happens. Will also experiment with the supplement stack above. What dosage of Methylfolate do you take?
 
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@“MikeAlstott” My pleasure. I couldn’t figure out how to read the methylfolate dosage so I included a link with the one that I take.
 
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Update.

E2 came back at 50. Will bump up the Provi to 25mg per day and see how I respond. I don’t have any noticeable sides from high E2, and I’ve seen people run at this level no problem. But from my understanding, estrogen is just not that great in general. Going to try and keep it around 20.
 
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Awesome man! I’m new to this as well and am also learning less is more. I’m on 200 test c a week, nothing else. Labs came in:
1500 total test
Free was unable to calculate.
Estrodiol 90
All way too high for a self administered trt. Bringing it down to 150 a week with daily pins. See where that takes me. Once I get to a stable place I’ll experiment with the trt add ons for fun.
 
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That’s great! You should consider getting the test which is not capped so you know exactly where you are.
Also, if interested, try 100 mg every 5 days. That’s about 140 weekly, less trough, and less waste.
More oil, in a single higher dose, means more waste & less efficiency.
100mg 2x a week = 160mg of actual hormone where as 200mg 1x per week may only amount to 150mg .
(Estimated numbers)

Keep up the good work
 
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I would love to see your SHBG values as you seem to be a really good responder to test if after 5 days those are your values. I have low SHBG and after 3.5days my total test was barely 2000 on 500mg/week of a good source through here. Less isn’t always more since everybody is different. At 100mg q5d I would
probably be lower than the normal values. In these scenarios I guess I’m strictly talking about injection frequency as my TRT dose 3x totaling 150mg a week puts me at 1400 trough (doc approved) . Which is also why free test is a little better to go off than total test according to my doc.

When I blasted 650mg/week (TRT dose + blast) it put me at over 6000 injecting 3x a week as a frequency.
 
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@“FieldJunky” hey brother, thanks for the reply. Unfortunately I’m not seeing my SHBG values for my most recent blood work, but when I tested flat on bad test I tested at
SHBG - 24

ref 5-50 if I recall correctly

Unsure if this information is useful considering the circumstances
 
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@“FieldJunky” hey brother, thanks for the reply. Unfortunately I’m not seeing my SHBG values for my most recent blood work, but when I tested flat on bad test I tested at
SHBG - 24

ref 5-50 if I recall correctly

Unsure if this information is useful considering the circumstances
Your SHBG is a little more normal than mine which could account easily for why you can inject Q5Days, but essentially you’re on a TRT dose and testosterone is anabolic in nature but much more androgenic.

Great gains can be made on a cruise dose of test with some anabolic oils and orals added to it. I believe the reason why these low doses are not heard of is because beginner cycles are already 500/ml week. And people on TRT aren’t focused on the anabolic side of test and it’s related substances.

Just my two cents, not everyone can go every 5 day injections but amazing gains can still made on low dose test and some orals with minimal side effects.
 
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@“FieldJunky” I double checked and reference is 10-50, with a score of 24 nmol/L.

I agree, I was going to up my dose for a small blast, but for now i’ve decided against it as I feel I’m still making great progress on TRT dose. Nowhere near my current potential.

I have upped the dose of the Proviron to 50mg daily in an effort to get the E2 down. I am definitely more vascular. I’ve always been vascular but I notice my veins on my lower stomach popping. Muscles are hard and full, even with lack of workout commitment with gym being closed. I want to see how much of an effect the Proviron has on getting my E2 in check. (Target of 20-25).

Eventually I will run a blast, but just because I want to see my bloodwork. But mostly just TRT dose with the occasional addition of other compounds like you mentioned.

The individual who helped me get my bloodwork in order told me I should never ever need to run more than 200mg/wk for a blast when your body is functioning properly. He showed me his blood work with Total T @ 9000 and Free T @ 2900 running 300mg/wk. He said even at 300mg/wk, its too much, and he did it simply to prove a point to everyone on the boards. He claims he feels best around 2000/700 TT/FT.

Anyway, i’m enjoying the process. Excited to continue the journey.
 
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