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Do you think Mat Fraser was natty?

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I don't follow CrossFit. Just remember this name and he was shredded. He claims natty, but it is a theme that when athletes get called out they discuss urine testing. In my opinion id say no based on his physique, but also he was like an ant with his strength and had unreal endurance.

What's your opinion? ( Also, I wish I looked as.good as him lol )
 

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Looked him up and nothing certainly screams gear to me about that physique. 5’7” and 190lbs, not too low bf% and his delts are good but not extremely capped along with traps not being that juicy. I think ppl underestimate how far some can get with their natural physiques especially a short guy like him
 

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Looked him up and nothing certainly screams gear to me about that physique. 5’7” and 190lbs, not too low bf% and his delts are good but not extremely capped along with traps not being that juicy. I think ppl underestimate how far some can get with their natural physiques especially a short guy like him
Oh yeah I see what you mean. I think the pic I saw of him was Photoshopped. Guy had mountains for traps and the hardest, dryest looking abs I've ever seen 😂
 

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No. In my opinion, there is zero chance he was natty. He may have not been on gear, but I’m sure he took advantage of some healing peptides.
 

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I would bet Lance Armstrong type cycle. Guy was great oly lifter but horrible stamina when he switched over. Then boom! It was as if he had twice the RBCs. Fucking beast either way and a true specimen of the species imo
 

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I would bet Lance Armstrong type cycle. Guy was great oly lifter but horrible stamina when he switched over. Then boom! It was as if he had twice the RBCs. Fucking beast either way and a true specimen of the species imo
For real. I first heard of him on IG years ago. I saw a video of him doing a standing overhead of like 400 maybe more pounds. I think he was lifting it from a box that was fairly tall, but still. could be exaggerating a bit it was a long time ago. And I was like who's this strong sob?
 

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No chance he is natty lol. He most likely stays away from the harsher aas but hes def not natty.
 

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No shit he's on gear and lots of it.
Looked him up and nothing certainly screams gear to me about that physique. 5’7” and 190lbs, not too low bf% and his delts are good but not extremely capped along with traps not being that juicy. I think ppl underestimate how far some can get with their natural physiques especially a short guy like him

The fuck kinda reddit IQ shit is this. "Not too low bf%" Nigga the guy is in the single digits while performing at a very high level in his sport.
 

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No shit he's on gear and lots of it.


The fuck kinda reddit IQ shit is this. "Not too low bf%" Nigga the guy is in the single digits while performing at a very high level in his sport.
He's on Rogan a couple years back pretending he's never heard of clen or sarms lol
 

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No shit he's on gear and lots of it.


The fuck kinda reddit IQ shit is this. "Not too low bf%" Nigga the guy is in the single digits while performing at a very high level in his sport.

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Sure he’s probs on other stuff and peptides to maximize performance, but if you think this physique screams gear on a 5’7” frame and isn’t ever naturally attainable that’s something else bro. I can’t speculate if he’s pinning or not but if you are and can’t look better than this you should take up ping pong, blame your parents for shit genetics . 👍
 
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There's people that look better from prison calisthenics. He might be on a low dose, but I can still believe if he's natty.
 

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Sure he’s probs on other stuff and peptides to maximize performance, but if you think this physique screams gear on a 5’7” frame and isn’t ever naturally attainable that’s something else bro. I can’t speculate if he’s pinning or not but if you are and can’t look better than this you should take up ping pong, blame your parents for shit genetics . 👍

Actual retard. Jesus Christ, and these are the people who frequent gear forums.
 

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Actual retard. Jesus Christ, and these are the people who frequent gear forums.
5'7" 190lbs 12%bf is certainly attainable naturally and I'm the retard? Sounds like someone is struggling to get those small stats up yourself when juicing. You must be buying from Tejas bc your shit is bunk then bro.

"Frequent gear forums"........ but you have over 400 more messages than me with a later join date. Get a job and a therapist.
 
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5'7" 190lbs 12%bf is certainly attainable naturally and I'm the retard? Sounds like someone is struggling to get those small stats up yourself when juicing. You must be buying from Tejas bc your shit is bunk then bro.

"Frequent gear forums"........ but you have over 400 more messages than me with a later join date. Get a job and a therapist.

Genuine Grade-A Retard here folks.
 
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