Feeling flat on cucle

[PBJTime]

Looking for some advice.

On 600/400/400 test/mast/primo, feeling flat though.

struggling to get a pump, even with no AI. Should I swap out one of the DHT derivatives? Up test?

Sodium is good, very high. No AI currently, just using nolva. Bulking so carbs are decent too.

 

[bluescat510]

Not sure what your experience level is but 600 test is plenty to bulk on. I never heard of anyone using mast/primo for bulking as those compounds lean toward a cutting cycle. How many weeks into the cycle so far? IMO, if you have NPP on hand, I'd introduce that if you got at least 8 weeks of your blast left and ditch the mast/primo. Also research the pros of using aromasin or adex over nolva during blast.

 

[deathcore]

How long have you been running the cycle for? And how much weight have you put on so far?

Did you get bloods pre-cycle for a baseline? Either way, would be a good idea to get all that checked now. Test, Estradiol, Lipids, Thyroid — it’ll show you what’s really going on and you can amend the cycle accordingly instead of blindly changing hormones or listening to people on here.

I know it’s a pain in the ass to get bloods at times but it’s a necessity. If you can, go the privatemdlabs route.

 

[PteRoy]

What is your definition of high sodium? Are you adding in any potassium salt? What's your water intake before training? What's your insulin sensitivity like? How long has this been going on for? Are the masterone and primbolon suppressing your estrogen too much? Why the tamoxifen? Are you warming up efficiently?

Could be one thing, could be many things. I'd try getting in 1.5-2grams 50/50 of salt and potassium salt with a boat load of water before training and see if that solves the problem or at least improves it.

 

[Mstew735869]

It’s the mast and primo. They’re pushing your estrogen down. Drop one of those, or raise your test.

 

[Musclechemist7]

Gear is bunk , problem solved haha

 

[Gullinbursti]

Not sure what your experience level is but 600 test is plenty to bulk on. I never heard of anyone using mast/primo for bulking as those compounds lean toward a cutting cycle. How many weeks into the cycle so far? IMO, if you have NPP on hand, I'd introduce that if you got at least 8 weeks of your blast left and ditch the mast/primo. Also research the pros of using aromasin or adex over nolva during blast.

People definitely use mast in a bulking cycle, I definitely do. I love a test and mast only cycle and maybe throw in some var. I know a lot of people seem to get flat and have almost low e2 sides but I don't.