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first week on test went great as expected, estrogen test questions.

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doing 175 / week of test cyp, just finished my first week and went great. 50mg eod. literally already look different and put on a few lbs

When would I wana get my first e2 test, 5-6 weeks out? assuming no symptoms. also
After i raise dosage a little while out perhaps 250/week, how long after dosage increase would I wait before retesting bloods. 2 weeks only?

. . i dont wana be wasting tests or not doing enough tests, any input on how much u test, vs how much you tested at first and why you made the adjustment.

I just learned about hcg having a purpose for ballsack health while on cycle or cruising, so I plan on buying a kit of 10vials
already have arimidex on hand but also plan on getting: clomid / nolva / aromasin on hand for whenever they come in handy

edited so my main question will be noticed.... although thanks for the dont do drugs talk over literally nothing....
sorry im doing drugs you fucks. ur not my fuckin parents and im doing drugs... with that out of the way I'll keep doing drugs and appreciate any harm reduction advice.
 
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K.I.S.S. (keep it simple stupid) IMO pick 1 compound and take a normal dose. Anavar doesn't aromatize so its not likely to cause any more complexity in your AI dosing. Not sure what would make you want to take Dbol and Tren at the same time. so many compounds at doses so low.
maybe consider dropping Dbol, and tren and just taking 50mg Anavar for 4-6 weeks. or Tbol even.
 

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K.I.S.S. (keep it simple stupid) IMO pick 1 compound and take a normal dose. Anavar doesn't aromatize so its not likely to cause any more complexity in your AI dosing. Not sure what would make you want to take Dbol and Tren at the same time. so many compounds at doses so low.
maybe consider dropping Dbol, and tren and just taking 50mg Anavar for 4-6 weeks. or Tbol even.
i agree, im sticking to just testosterone cyp for the forseeable future..
in the mean time im just letting the test do its thing while i familiarize and enjoy the gains.

why dianabol? why tren? theres more than one person that agrees tren 10mg will do stuff and in a noticeable way. you think ill cause harm to myself doing this? or you think it wont provide any additional benefits on top of my usual test dose + usual training and diet? confused
 

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It's not really just the E2 you're checking when doing labs. You'll see when you get the results.

Do yourself a favor and get a liver support if you haven't. Tudca, NAC, if you can get injectable glutathione, but sometimes hard to locate. Be safe big dog.
i eat a lot of meat like 3 lbs a day so im looking forward to checking hematocrit and cbc. im familiar with nac, sounds like a good idea

i was hoping to get more feedback on the estrogen testing question, hence i titled the post " estrogen test questions "
anyone help?
 

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i eat a lot of meat like 3 lbs a day so im looking forward to checking hematocrit and cbc. im familiar with nac, sounds like a good idea

i was hoping to get more feedback on the estrogen testing question, hence i titled the post " estrogen test questions "
anyone help?

The real answer is that almost nobody really gets any sort of lab work done. Professional bodybuilding and strength athletes probably do, and rich folks probably do, but the average users are either getting infrequent testing or none at all. Whether it be due to financial reasons or laziness or just stubbornness it is incredibly common to talk to gear users and find that they have never even looked at a blood panel and have no idea what any of the terminology means.

When I first started I got things checked before hopping on because I was wondering if my levels were shit (I just got paranoid from watching stupid youtube videos, I Was fine) and then months later figured fuck it I am old enough to make this call and I got on. Had myself checked at the end of my first 'cycle', and then again ~12 weeks later while cruising, went through a short period of financial stress/life stress and didn't bother with bloods for almost a year, then things settled finally and since then I have been getting myself checked every 6 months.

I came to the bi-annually conclusion after spending around 50 weeks with no idea what was going on inside me and then when I did finally get tested again everything was fine. Liver, balls, T and E, blood, everything was fine. This brought me to the realization that I may have been massively overestimating the damage that gear could cause my body, and so I let it go another 6 months and came back to find yet again everything was fine. Been that way ever since.

Mind you, I'm also not running retard doses and based on my total and physique I may be above average in genetics which might play some sort of role here. Personally I advise people to at least have baseline work done before hopping on, and to get checked after your first cycle/blast, and it's probably *good* to keep getting checked every ~3 months or so but I understand most people just plain aren't gonna do it. My reasoning comes from a place of feeling like I need to give the 'right' answer to newbies as opposed to the 'real' answer, which is: We don't fuckin know. Your body can change drastically and rapidly, and you never know when something like a liver value falls out of range so really going every 3 months still leaves the possibility open that you went 2+ months with shit horribly wrong inside before finding out. Alternatively you could end up like me and just be pissing money away on tests and never having anything wrong. You've got to learn for yourself what works for yourself.
 

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i highly appreciate a reply like yours, im getting a better picture of "the reality of it" everytime someone like you shares realistically how it went for them.

your approach to all of this is respectable and it sounds like we have some standards in common, though i havent gained as much experience yet. im also trying to be responsible with doses because... theyre proven to be effective.

im pretty gifted genetically id say, im recovering from a wild wild head injuryy from a bulglary and have been recovering from low T symptoms ever since. i managed to put almost all of my weight back on naturally but never got my full spark back.

i dont think its fair that a couple tweaker druggies just get to alter my life forever, its been part of my decision to get on testosterone, fuck doctors and the justice system, etc.
 
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why dianabol? why tren? theres more than one person that agrees tren 10mg will do stuff and in a noticeable way. you think ill cause harm to myself doing this? or you think it wont provide any additional benefits on top of my usual test dose + usual training and diet? confused
You're not really understanding. Adding so many compounds overcomplicates things. Hence "KISS". You're worried about your estrogen, but also choose to take Dbol. a very highly aromatizing anabolic. You don't even know your AI dose for test alone, or your estro and you want to add all these compounds. Do what you want its your body im just giving some advice. Go get your levels tested, dial in AI if you need it. I reccomended anavar bc Anavar doesn't aromatize, so it wont complicate the estrogen. Tren on the other hand is such a romanticized drug but the side effects are absolutely horrible. I like to think its the Meth of the anabolic world. Would you smoke Meth? Then why would you take tren? Sure 10mg sounds low, but its NEVER "only" 10mg. You will slowly raise it. go read as many tren horror stories as you can find and then decide what to do with your own body but just make sure you know what you're getting into
 

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You're not really understanding. Adding so many compounds overcomplicates things. Hence "KISS". You're worried about your estrogen, but also choose to take Dbol. a very highly aromatizing anabolic. You don't even know your AI dose for test alone, or your estro and you want to add all these compounds. Do what you want its your body im just giving some advice. Go get your levels tested, dial in AI if you need it. I reccomended anavar bc Anavar doesn't aromatize, so it wont complicate the estrogen. Tren on the other hand is such a romanticized drug but the side effects are absolutely horrible. I like to think its the Meth of the anabolic world. Would you smoke Meth? Then why would you take tren? Sure 10mg sounds low, but its NEVER "only" 10mg. You will slowly raise it. go read as many tren horror stories as you can find and then decide what to do with your own body but just make sure you know what you're getting into
im being trolled at this point, i wont flip out or anything lol. sigh.

cheers goodnight i found my answer on reddit.... someone said 3-6 weeks depending on test dosage and some other factors, and 2 weeks after any gear changes is fine.

any second opinions on that at all? although I appreciate your meth warning, your message was lost with me
 
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im being trolled at this point, i wont flip out or anything lol. sigh.

cheers goodnight i found my answer on reddit.... someone said 3-6 weeks depending on test dosage and some other factors, and 2 weeks after any gear changes is fine.

any second opinions on that at all? although I appreciate your meth warning, your message was lost with me
I knew it would be. I guess thats why you edited your original message and took it out?
 

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I knew it would be. I guess thats why you edited your original message and took it out?
Kid isn't the brightest, argues with anyone over anything and thinks he knows it all. Maybe that head injury is affecting him still, I'm not sure. I do hope hia cycle goes well and it works out for the guy though
 
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Kid isn't the brightest, argues with anyone over anything and thinks he knows it all. Maybe that head injury is affecting him still, I'm not sure. I do hope hia cycle goes well and it works out for the guy though
Lmao. dude will be back with a "tren 300mg thought the random guy at the gym was fucking my gf be he looks like her type" post
 

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Guy lost me at "went to reddit." Now it makes sense why he's starting at 175 a week and planning on tiltrating up to 250mg. Lmao.
 

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just offer harm reduction advice, ive had one guy in this thread with a super useful reply and then a bunch of old lady trolls who are offended and just have some rude shit to say.

go ahead and talk your shit whatever, 175 test in only 10 days and im already getting comments that Im looking different/bigger. and ive already noticed an insane statmina / reps increase

never taken it before so im titrating up. settled on trying 350 now that im more comfortable with it (100 eod) and .25 arimidex every 3 days. getting bloods in 15 days to see how thats playing out.

if you dont have anything nice to say, i literally dont care and get your estrogen checked bitch
 
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