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Former source on here. Went to prison. AMA

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Did u feel it was coming/start noticing things or did it take u by total surprise?

And idk if u can say it but did they take ur digital wallets?? BTC was $3k in 2018... lol
 

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Did u feel it was coming/start noticing things or did it take u by total surprise?

And idk if u can say it but did they take ur digital wallets?? BTC was $3k in 2018... lol
Yeah man that's a great question. I did notice some weird stuff. Cars parked near the collection boxes I frequented, a truck parked in front of my house with nobody in it. And then about 2 months before the investigation started, right before my wedding I had a premonition. I wish I had something to show for my time sourcing but unfortunately all I have is some really terrific memories and some really horrific memories after the fact
 

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I got shut down October of 18. I started sourcing on SST when we were still in Reddit. My hint to you is whataburger was my first meal when I got out
I've been around for a long time... this gives away who you are right away.. lol

Glad to hear you are out man. So is everything they say true about going to jail or is it over exxagerated?
 

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Yeah man that's a great question. I did notice some weird stuff. Cars parked near the collection boxes I frequented, a truck parked in front of my house with nobody in it. And then about 2 months before the investigation started, right before my wedding I had a premonition. I wish I had something to show for my time sourcing but unfortunately all I have is some really terrific memories and some really horrific memories after the fact
I'm still missing who exactly you were. Doesn't matter tho.

4.5 years for just AAS sounds harsh. Did you have any other charges like weapons or rec drugs? Was this not your first offense? Or was it your first offense and just simply AAS possession and distribution? I'd understand if this is too personal but figured I'd ask.
 

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We never heard or found any news of the bust, everyone assumed exit scam at the time. For shits and giggles you could search your old name on the forum and reply to threads people posted asking about you lol.
So I know inmates do not like certain other criminals depending on their crime (rapists, pedophiles, murderers/abusers in some cases etc), but how do they treat a steroid source? You were performing a victimless crime that should not even be a crime.
I kind of have to disagree with you about selling steroids/using steroids being a victimless crime.

Yes, at the end of the day it’s the decision of the person using AAS to buy them. That isn’t to say that AAS users can’t be victims. Some people suffer some pretty serious health complications or mental health issues from this stuff.

Do I blame sources for this? Absolutely not. They simply offer the choice to those who are willing and many go to decent lengths to provide high-quality, sterile, lab-tested products that make AAS consumption safer.

It’s also worth mentioning that a lot of people have messed up their relationships, gotten fired, or otherwise become a miserable cunt towards others as a consequence of AAS use. Some drugs are way more prone to causing this (looking at you, Tren) than others, but it’s still worth mentioning. There’s a very real harm that can be/is inflicted upon others.

Still, I don’t think people selling deserve jail time, let alone that harsh of a punishment. IMO other drugs are a lot worse in terms of their adverse effects on their users and others.

Alcohol has caused numerous deaths due to liver failure/injury, drunk driving, alcohol-driven abuse, etc. Yet, I don’t see liquor store owners being fined or arrested.

Nicotine literally exponentially increases your risk of all types of cancer and causes atherosclerosis, heart disease, high BP, spinal degeneration and so much more. Second hand smoke also imposes a significant carcinogenic burden on others and is a contributing factor to the rise of asthma worldwide. Yet, I don’t see gas station owners who sell dozens of packs a day being arrested.

The law is very dumb.

End of rant
 
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I kind of have to disagree with you about selling steroids/using steroids being a victimless crime.

Yes, at the end of the day it’s the decision of the person using AAS to buy them. That isn’t to say that AAS users can’t be victims. Some people suffer some pretty serious health complications or mental health issues from this stuff.

Do I blame sources for this? Absolutely not. They simply offer the choice to those who are willing and many go to decent lengths to provide high-quality, sterile, lab-tested products that make AAS consumption safer.

It’s also worth mentioning that a lot of people have messed up their relationships, gotten fired, or otherwise become a miserable cunt towards others as a consequence of AAS use. Some drugs are way more prone to causing this (looking at you, Tren) than others, but it’s still worth mentioning. There’s a very real harm that can be/is inflicted upon others.

Still, I don’t think people selling deserve jail time, let alone that harsh of a punishment. IMO other drugs are a lot worse in terms of their adverse effects on their users and others.

Alcohol has caused numerous deaths due to liver failure/injury, drunk driving, alcohol-driven abuse, etc. Yet, I don’t see liquor store owners being fined or arrested.

Nicotine literally exponentially increases your risk of all types of cancer and causes atherosclerosis, heart disease, high BP, spinal degeneration and so much more. Second hand smoke also imposes a significant carcinogenic burden on others and is a contributing factor to the rise of asthma worldwide. Yet, I don’t see gas station owners who sell dozens of packs a day being arrested.

The law is very dumb.

End of rant
Someone posted this in a thread I posted the other day. Interesting study

 

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Yeah honestly this chart just says it all. I literally have no idea why alcohol and nicotine are still tolerated while weed and AAS are seen as the devil’s nectar. Oh wait, I actually know exactly why; it’s highly profitable and our governmental policy is dictated to a large degree by third party interests.
 

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Surprised nobody has asked some Biz-Ops related questions but maybe that’s because I’m in finance.

1. What was your overall profit margin, or did that depend on product type?
2. What was your gross profit the last year you were in business?
3. What was your YTD revenue?
 

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Surprised nobody has asked some Biz-Ops related questions but maybe that’s because I’m in finance.

1. What was your overall profit margin, or did that depend on product type?
2. What was your gross profit the last year you were in business?
3. What was your YTD revenue?
Just look at the price of raws. Profit margin must be at least 40% or higher. A gram of primo costs like $18 IIRC. For a 10 mL vial, you’d need 2 grams so $36 for raws. Assuming the vial, filter, carrier oil and BA/BB add on another $14 (which it likely wouldn’t), that’s $50 cost of production. Primo usually sells for around $90-$100 so a pretty decent margin.
 

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Surprised nobody has asked some Biz-Ops related questions but maybe that’s because I’m in finance.

1. What was your overall profit margin, or did that depend on product type?
2. What was your gross profit the last year you were in business?
3. What was your YTD revenue?
I never really set down to get these numbers so these estimates, profit margin was probably 80% or better overall. That last year once I started building a customer base I'd have 20-25k a week in sells. Best week was 40k and plenty of 30k+ weeks
 

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4 and a half for gear? I've always wondered what happens with sources on a mid level if caught up. I've done almost 4 for coke and other things. Was it worth it? Did it even out pay wise? How big of an operation was it? I have other questions but I'm high on ketamine and can barely think and type lol so I'll have to come back tomorrow
 

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Looks like you got busted shortly after you got married. Did your wife stood by your side all this time or you got divorced?

Also what about your friends/family? Did someone turned its back on you/lost contact?
 
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4 and a half for gear? I've always wondered what happens with sources on a mid level if caught up. I've done almost 4 for coke and other things. Was it worth it? Did it even out pay wise? How big of an operation was it? I have other questions but I'm high on ketamine and can barely think and type lol so I'll have to come back tomorrow
It was actually 72 months, I did 4.5 years in plus house arrest and such for what will be a total of 62 months. This was a stiffer sentence than most people get. I think most people get 2-4 years and of course you don't do the entirety of the sentence in prison. I was probably middle sized. I had a pretty decent inventory list but I did 75% of the work myself. I did pay for a little help.
 

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Looks like you got busted shortly after you got married. Did your wife stood by your side all this time or you got divorced?

Also what about your friends/family? Did someone turned its back on you/lost contact?
Ah now for the sad question. Sad for me at least. No my wife didn't stick around. She was 27 at that time and very beautiful. She wasn't trying to wait. She's now remarried with 2 children from what I understand. We haven't spoken for quite some time. From my experience, which is probably similar to most people i would think, 2 years seems to be about the length of time people care. people move on with their lives and I was still doing time. People I was close to when I was free I reached out to after I got out and it was just like oh cool man congrats and that was about it. I'm not sure what I was expecting. My dad and sister were the only ones I remained in contact with throughout the whole ordeal.
 
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Ah now for the sad question. Sad for me at least. No my wife didn't stick around. She was 27 at that time and very beautiful. She wasn't trying to wait. She's now remarried with 2 children from what I understand. We haven't spoken for quite some time. From my experience, which is probably similar to most people i would think, 2 years seems to be about the length of time people care. people move on with their lives and I was still doing time. People I was close to when I was free I reached out to after I got out and it was just like oh cool man congrats and that was about it. I'm not sure what I was expecting. My dad and sister were the only ones I remained in contact with throughout the whole ordeal.
That is very sad. Kind of how life is. Not the same situation and I've never done time, but when you aren't in lives for a while and you try to reach out it seems typical people are just good without you. I've def stopped talking to a lot of my friends and have seen in passing and that's about it.

I'm sure there's another smoke show out there somewhere for you and you'll be eating ass in no time. Keep your head up
 

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Ah now for the sad question. Sad for me at least. No my wife didn't stick around. She was 27 at that time and very beautiful. She wasn't trying to wait. She's now remarried with 2 children from what I understand. We haven't spoken for quite some time. From my experience, which is probably similar to most people i would think, 2 years seems to be about the length of time people care. people move on with their lives and I was still doing time. People I was close to when I was free I reached out to after I got out and it was just like oh cool man congrats and that was about it. I'm not sure what I was expecting. My dad and sister were the only ones I remained in contact with throughout the whole ordeal.
Damn brother, that sucks but it's never too late to start again and find something even better
 

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Oh yeah. I remember that. I was standing in line at McDonalds and my brain was flipping out. I had to leave before I even ordered.
I had a panic attack my first time in Walmart after getting out. I had to speed walk to the car to calm down
 
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