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Former source on here. Went to prison. AMA

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Did they take all your money?
Did you leave prison with 0$

u don’t have to answer , these ninjas probably watching
It's highly unlikely any law enforcement agencies are actively monitoring this. But yes in the end it was 0. It didn't have to be that way but that's how it ended up.
 

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What did you spend your money on? Enough about the bad things tell us about the ups you had with all this money!
Ah several international vacations in Europe and Asia. Business class flights, private villas @ $600 a night. An expensive engagement ring. I had a really nice pickup and had bought my wife a new maxima. Had a nice rent house. Though I'll say our house and vehicles weren't outside of middle class range or anything, I just paid for it up front. Breast implants, lazik eye surgery. Nice furniture. $4000 washer and dryer set (why I don't know. they all wash the same). The traveling was the best though.
 

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did you ever intentionally under dose your stuff or mislabel them?
I overdosed everything by 10%. I can genuinely say that I did my best to provide good quality, clean steroids for folks. If I didn't have something in stock then I missed the sale and that was that. I think a good majority of the sources feel the same way. If for no other reason it helps you make more money to do the right thing.
 

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If you’d give any advice to the new sponsors? What would it be to stay safe?

And what advice would you give to someone who gets busted? ( If you had to do it allover again)

Did you have a lawyer? And did they help with the case ?
I assume you meant sources not sponsors. My advice to new sources would be to try and develop a network of reshippers (super easy huh?), Don't put a lot of money in the bank, do not use fake return addresses, and if you own any firearms take them to your parents house. If you do end up getting busted try to be cooperative and don't do anything stupid like leaving the country. When I say cooperate I don't mean to get others in trouble but they're going to want to seize some money. Having a crypto wallet with 50-60k as a seizure fund might not be a bad idea. I didn't hire a lawyer and I'm not sure I'd really recommend anyone else wasting their money on it either. When they catch you red handed there's really not much you can do. At that point you're essentially at the mercy of the US attorneys office to offer you some sort of plea deal. But seriously get the guns out of your house
 

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I've been around for a long time... this gives away who you are right away.. lol

Glad to hear you are out man. So is everything they say true about going to jail or is it over exxagerated?
Jail was fucking trash. But when I got to the prison camp it was nothing like anything you'd see on TV. The 39 months I was at the camp I saw 1 fist fight.
 
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Was it a return to sender because some moron put down a fake name on his shipping information or a BS address? I've seen that happen before, people get paranoid because they are trippy about these packages going to their house so they come up with the brilliant idea to put fake information as their shipping information causing a slew of issues
I honestly don't remember if it was my fault or the customers. I'd had both issues happen in the past. I remember one guy asked me to put his name as Charlie Brown 🙄. Most commonly when I had a return to sender it was due to lack of apartment number. And like I said I forgot to put it a couple times and there was a few times the customer didn't tell me the apartment number.
 
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It depends on which state you are sentenced in. I was in the Oregon Penitentiary, though it isn't a cakewalk it's not like California or Texas prisons. Idk about other states, but I don't think the rape shit goes on like everyone thinks anymore. Yes, I said anymore.

The SO's that worked in the bakery got caught butt fucking up where they kept the flour and sugar though. Lots of trannies in one of the correctional institutions I was in. Still had male genitalia because they were in a men's prison I presume, but they had full pairs of tits. I remember very vividly one of them looked exactly like Taylor Swift, hence they called Him Taylor Swift. I heard men that transition fully and go to the woman's prison in my state get the holy rat shit kicked out of them. Like 5on1, or even worse. The women don't play that shit in prison.
I was just at a federal prison camp so it was pretty soft. No sex offenders or anyone with a super fucked up charge or prior charge.
 

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Never been to prison but done plentttty of county time. I'm glad you're out brother - counting days is some bullshit. I'm sure you were happier in prison than county though The last time I did 6 months I asked for 13 because everybody says prison time is way better but the judge wouldn't let me lol.


(for the guy that was in OSP - I heard that place was the shit if you're doing time out this way). Im familiar with the area..
 
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I honestly don't remember if it was my fault or the customers. I'd had both issues happen in the past. I remember one guy asked me to put his name as Charlie Brown 🙄. Most commonly when I had a return to sender it was due to lack of apartment number. And like I said I forgot to put it a couple times and there was a few times the customer didn't tell me the apartment number.
People who do dumb shit like that or hide it from their wives etc shouldn't order. They're bound to get caught by someone
 

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I was just at a federal prison camp so it was pretty soft. No sex offenders or anyone with a super fucked up charge or prior charge.
Can you go into detail on the day to day experience at the fed prison. What’s the difference between a prison and prison camp, if there is one?
 

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@Theotherguy1987

Did you ever get tainted raws? I'm not asking if you sold tainted product as I and many others purchased from you and had nothing but good things to say, but I am curious how common it is for raws sent from overseas to be dirty in some manner. Either legitimately containing dust/dirt particles, being mixed with another compound, containing fentanyl, etc. There's a big talking point for the media anytime gear is brought up about how 'You don't know what you're really getting' when ordering from overseas and I want to know how valid a point this is. I feel it's bullshit but still curious for input from someone who handled a lot of raws. A big concern emerging is the 'When will Fent be in our shit' issue and I sincerely hope it never showed up.
 

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@Theotherguy1987

Did you ever get tainted raws? I'm not asking if you sold tainted product as I and many others purchased from you and had nothing but good things to say, but I am curious how common it is for raws sent from overseas to be dirty in some manner. Either legitimately containing dust/dirt particles, being mixed with another compound, containing fentanyl, etc. There's a big talking point for the media anytime gear is brought up about how 'You don't know what you're really getting' when ordering from overseas and I want to know how valid a point this is. I feel it's bullshit but still curious for input from someone who handled a lot of raws. A big concern emerging is the 'When will Fent be in our shit' issue and I sincerely hope it never showed up.
At that point I’d be totally done it scares me to even think about and I have horrible injection anxiety now after losing my brother to fentanyl
 

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At that point I’d be totally done it scares me to even think about and I have horrible injection anxiety now after losing my brother to fentanyl
Sorry about your brother. I struggled with iv heroin for a decade and still struggle with how to respond to people who lost loved ones to addiction because I feel like I shouldn't be here today.

It'd surprise me to see fent showing up intentionally in any aas but the OP is absolutely a better person to shed light here. Also curious for his input.
 

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Sorry about your brother. I struggled with iv heroin for a decade and still struggle with how to respond to people who lost loved ones to addiction because I feel like I shouldn't be here today.

It'd surprise me to see fent showing up intentionally in any aas but the OP is absolutely a better person to shed light here. Also curious for his input.
Thanks brother it’s been rough taking it a day at a time
 

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As the title says, I used to source here and got popped, spent the last 4.5 years in prison. Ask my anything. You can also send me a message on wickr if it's a private question. If the guy who used to run CML is still around I'd like to hear from you
I can give him your contact information if you give me an e-mail for him to contact. Whether he actually reaches out to you or not is anyone's guess

edit: he said he knows who you are from your thread clues
 
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Can you go into detail on the day to day experience at the fed prison. What’s the difference between a prison and prison camp, if there is one?
Sure man. So think of a prison camp as a trustee camp. There was no fences, only 1 guard on duty and their office wasn't in either of the 2 dorms. It's small, only 150~ people there when I left. We worked around the compound (there was a medium and maximum security prison there too). The campers did everything for the compound. Lawn care, maintenance, warehouse work, recycling, cleaning. My typical day was go to work from 7-10. Lunch at 11, nap from 12-1, dinner at 3, count at 4, I'd walk in the evening for an hour and listen to the radio. Count again at 9 and then lights out which is when I went to bed.

I had a makeshift workout set at work with a pipe rack , a pipe, and cinder blocks of various sizes. Couldn't do much other than some basic compound exercises but it kept my joints in shape and prevented my muscles from completely atrophying. I read a lot too. About 300 books in the 51 months. The day to day aspect wasn't that terrible. It's the cumulative effect of it all that takes it's toll. The world just kinda passed you by. People move on with their lives.
 

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Did you ever get tainted raws? I'm not asking if you sold tainted product as I and many others purchased from you and had nothing but good things to say, but I am curious how common it is for raws sent from overseas to be dirty in some manner. Either legitimately containing dust/dirt particles, being mixed with another compound, containing fentanyl, etc. There's a big talking point for the media anytime gear is brought up about how 'You don't know what you're really getting' when ordering from overseas and I want to know how valid a point this is. I feel it's bullshit but still curious for input from someone who handled a lot of raws. A big concern emerging is the 'When will Fent be in our shit' issue and I sincerely hope it never showed up.
So, generally no. I did get some mystery powder once but not from a raw dealer. It was from a lab that was closing shop and selling their raws to me for cost (domestic raws for cost? Fuck yeah). They were cool dudes if had to have been an accident. They changed over thousands of dollars of Bitcoin into cash for me. I had the raws they sold me all tested and everything was good except the nolvadex. Jano couldn't tell me what it was but it definitely wasn't nolvadex. So I tossed it. No major loss. I got so equipoise that tested at 85% pure one time and put up a post telling people I had underdosed EQ for sale for $20 and PPL shipped me some fresh EQ that tested 98%.

So many of y'all may not know this but these raws are manufactured by legitimate pharmaceutical companies. This is not an underground cartel type operation. They have government licenses to produce some of these items and the ones they don't they just moonlight them. It's not even likely they manufacture fentanyl at the same facility. Saying that you don't know what is in these steroids is fair enough unless you're getting it tested yourself but on both ends (raw manufactures and the domestic labs) I believe most people are trying to do fair and honest business. There's always going to be some ass holes that don't do things right but they don't last long
 

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I can give him your contact information if you give me an e-mail for him to contact. Whether he actually reaches out to you or not is anyone's guess

edit: he said he knows who you are from your thread clues
I sent you a message I would really appreciate it.
 
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