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[Deer101]

Looking at getting testosterone ethanate and I was going to get some type of PCT while on gear to avoid gyno can anyone help me with some kind of regular schedule.thanks in advance

 

[Deer101]

Looking at getting testosterone ethanate and I was going to get some type of PCT while on gear to avoid gyno can anyone help me with some kind of regular schedule.thanks in advance

Anybody

 

[CaptainAmerica]

What research have you done on the matter?

 

[Deer101]

I was researching but nothing answered my question. Everything I was seeing was telling me how to take PCT after cycle I need it during cycle and I'm currently still looking

 

[Jy10871]

You don’t use PCT on cycle… PCT stands for post cycle therapy to help restore your hormones after a cycle. I think what you mean to ask is what AI to take and just from this, you are not ready to start a cycle. Go do some more research, best to learn on your own instead of being spoonfed since this is important for your health

 

[Phenoxs]

Look into on cycle protocols

 

[Deer101]

You don’t use PCT on cycle… PCT stands for post cycle therapy to help restore your hormones after a cycle. I think what you mean to ask is what AI to take and just from this, you are not ready to start a cycle. Go do some more research, best to learn on your own instead of being spoonfed since this is important for your health

Correct Health very important and I understand everything that could come my way and I always knew you took the PCT after cycle but On the description of this product I was looking at said to take novadex or some kind of PCT to avoid the chances of getting gyno. That's the only thing I don't understand. Thanks for the feedback.

 

[Phenoxs]

Effect of test or steroids differ from person to person. You can simply run a cycle and see how your body reacts to the roids. But I’d recommend having some sort serms on hand like Nolva, clomid, or exemestane.

 

[JamesDoe350]

dont just run AI for shits and giggles. you run your cycle for 6-8 weeks then get blood done and check your e2 levels. most people dont even need AI while running unless the convert heavy or are blasting too much. i never run ai because the damage for the ai sides arent worth it. im not stepping on stage so i dont care to carry around water weight. anything under "750" test youll be fine without an ai anyways.

 

[Gbunk]

dont just run AI for shits and giggles. you run your cycle for 6-8 weeks then get blood done and check your e2 levels. most people dont even need AI while running unless the convert heavy or are blasting too much. i never run ai because the damage for the ai sides arent worth it. im not stepping on stage so i dont care to carry around water weight. anything under "750" test youll be fine without an ai anyways.

This varies person to person and I know you know that but don’t say OP will be fine without an AI under 750. He may believe that and have issues. I certainly need an AI for less unfortunately.

 

[JamesDoe350]

This varies person to person and I know you know that but don’t say OP will be fine without an AI under 750. He may believe that and have issues. I certainly need an AI for less unfortunately.

do you get blood work done? not being an asshole but i said get bloodwork done, check your levels and run it. i also said most people. you can combat e2 issues with other products like mast, primo, and tren that bind the receptors that estrogen's bind to and also lower them that way.


what is your protocol and why do you need ai? how much gear are you blasting, how long, what ai are you on. are you getting bloodwork done and have a coach, unless youve been in this for years, go over everything or are you just self protocol?

 

[Gbunk]

Yea I get blood work and no I don’t have a coach. I’m sensitive to estrogen and it sucks. I did one cycle with 600 test and half tab letro every 3 days and my e2 was 19. It was that good so I thought I would be okay to do 100mg more test on another cycle and still do letro e3d and then 3-4 weeks in my nipples started getting painful and nolva wouldn’t even help. After 2 weeks I used raloxifene and it took care of that. OP doesn’t sound experienced enough to be using other drugs to combat e2 like that, no offense.

 

[JamesDoe350]

Yea I get blood work and no I don’t have a coach. I’m sensitive to estrogen and it sucks. I did one cycle with 600 test and half tab letro every 3 days and my e2 was 19. It was that good so I thought I would be okay to do 100mg more test on another cycle and still do letro e3d and then 3-4 weeks in my nipples started getting painful and nolva wouldn’t even help. After 2 weeks I used raloxifene and it took care of that. OP doesn’t sound experienced enough to be using other drugs to combat e2 like that, no offense.

you dont have to tip toe around me buddy. im here to learn, read, and help!

you can you were fine at 600 test and then you went to 700 test on your next cycle and had problems. so you didnt hit the 750 mark without side, like you said everyone is different. idk your build but if youre leaner or smaller you probably cant handle the higher levels of test without issues. you ran 600 test, developed e2 sides then took an ai or you started on an ai cause someone told you to? are you JUST on test and your ai or are you stacking with other compounds?

you are right, he isnt so i didnt say it.

again, not fighting with you, asking questions, debating etc. this will be the last time i mention that im not attacking you. some people are sensitive about it and take everything like an attack and idk you so i gotta make sure you understand im just debating, asking questions and learning

 

[Gbunk]

you dont have to tip toe around me buddy. im here to learn, read, and help!

you can you were fine at 600 test and then you went to 700 test on your next cycle and had problems. so you didnt hit the 750 mark without side, like you said everyone is different. idk your build but if youre leaner or smaller you probably cant handle the higher levels of test without issues. you ran 600 test, developed e2 sides then took an ai or you started on an ai cause someone told you to? are you JUST on test and your ai or are you stacking with other compounds?

you are right, he isnt so i didnt say it.

again, not fighting with you, asking questions, debating etc. this will be the last time i mention that im not attacking you. some people are sensitive about it and take everything like an attack and idk you so i gotta make sure you understand im just debating, asking questions and learning

I understand you aren’t attacking and interacting is how we learn. I had ran cycles before I did 600 so i knew I needed an AI. I started my first cycle using .5 tab ever 3 days I think at 500. My estrogen wasn’t crashed but It was on the lower side and it didn’t affect me in anyway I felt like. Ive always errored on the side of crashed estrogen verses gyno because I’m so sensitive and I have had issues before. Honestly, if I was at a better point in life I would get my glands removed and not worry about that shit but till then. I’m 5’11 so I wouldn’t say really short. I dipped down to 180 once but usually I try to stay around 200+. I stay fairly lean even when I bulk but I will definitely cut next cycle.

 

[JamesDoe350]

I understand you aren’t attacking and interacting is how we learn. I had ran cycles before I did 600 so i knew I needed an AI. I started my first cycle using .5 tab ever 3 days I think at 500. My estrogen wasn’t crashed but It was on the lower side and it didn’t affect me in anyway I felt like. Ive always errored on the side of crashed estrogen verses gyno because I’m so sensitive and I have had issues before. Honestly, if I was at a better point in life I would get my glands removed and not worry about that shit but till then. I’m 5’11 so I wouldn’t say really short. I dipped down to 180 once but usually I try to stay around 200+. I stay fairly lean even when I bulk but I will definitely cut next cycle.

to me, im not a pro, but 600mg at 180 seems high. im at 500 at 255. maybe i need to up my shit. lol

good luck. be safe. thanks for engaging with me!

 

[Gbunk]

to me, im not a pro, but 600mg at 180 seems high. im at 500 at 255. maybe i need to up my shit. lol

good luck. be safe. thanks for engaging with me!

When I was at 180 I cut down and it wasn’t 600 but 500. I’m 650 right now and right around 220. Good luck to you as well man.

 

[WereAllGonnaMakeIt]

r/ steroids and the wiki here are good resources for news. It got me through my cycles with relatively minor sides. I'd recommend tamoxifen (SERM) over AI because they tend to be hard on the body. Test E 500mg 12 week cycle with tamoxifen and maybe just a lil AI (in case things get really nasty) to be a perfectly normal noob cycle. I have run two cycles and did 12 weeks Test E first time and 16 weeks the second.

 

[WereAllGonnaMakeIt]

You don’t use PCT on cycle… PCT stands for post cycle therapy to help restore your hormones after a cycle. I think what you mean to ask is what AI to take and just from this, you are not ready to start a cycle. Go do some more research, best to learn on your own instead of being spoonfed since this is important for your health

you can use Tamoxifen on cycle for anti estrogen for sure, and its def favorable to a strong AI. Some people do pre load with tamoxifen for sure, but yes its mainly for PCT

 

[cikmi]

to me, im not a pro, but 600mg at 180 seems high. im at 500 at 255. maybe i need to up my shit. lol

good luck. be safe. thanks for engaging with me!

to me, im not a pro, but 600mg at 180 seems high. im at 500 at 255. maybe i need to up my shit. lol

good luck. be safe. thanks for engaging with me!

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