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Posting on a couple boards to get as much info as possible. I Would like to know everyone’s thoughts on filtering GH. Have spoken to a few guys with pretty good knowledge and they do not filter. If you do, do you prefer PES or PVDF filters for GH specifically? I know most prefer PES for peptides, but have seen other people saying PVDF for GH due to low protein binding as this should minimize GH molecules from sticking to the filter.

Would love some opinions…
 

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Posting on a couple boards to get as much info as possible. I Would like to know everyone’s thoughts on filtering GH. Have spoken to a few guys with pretty good knowledge and they do not filter. If you do, do you prefer PES or PVDF filters for GH specifically? I know most prefer PES for peptides, but have seen other people saying PVDF for GH due to low protein binding as this should minimize GH molecules from sticking to the filter.

Would love some opinions…
Probably the biggest indicator that you’re 🌈GAY🏳️‍🌈

Would you agree @AlexDavis43 ???
 

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Probably the biggest indicator that you’re 🌈GAY🏳️‍🌈

Would you agree @AlexDavis43 ???
Can always count on you sir. Seriously though, thats a bummer. I was actually hoping you and about 2-3 other people on here were gonna have some info for me on this since I can’t message you all direct.

Ordered a bunch of the golds from the source who makes you gay, and I haven’t yet, but just want to be sure I’m good if I get one of those cloudy vials a few of them guys brought up.
 

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Can always count on you sir. Seriously though, thats a bummer. I was actually hoping you and about 2-3 other people on here were gonna have some info for me on this since I can’t message you all direct.

Ordered a bunch of the golds from the source who makes you gay, and I haven’t yet, but just want to be sure I’m good if I get one of those cloudy vials a few of them guys brought up.
@readalot @PCT4ME either of you? Already asked the others I figured may have some info…
 

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Hello, ill go ahead and answer this for you. Your solution is whats considered in the scientific world "hydrophilic" which simply means hydro (water) and philia (friend) meaning the active ingredient(s) in the vial can dissolve in water very easily. PES (Polyethersulfone) itself is naturally hydrophilic and is used in general aqueous filtration as well as enzyme and protein filtration. PES also holds low protein binding properties which greatly reduces any sample loss during the filtration process. Now lets talk about PVDF (Polyvinylidene Difluoride), depending on how the filter is formulated, and it also being a fluoropolymer, this material can be both hydrophilic and hydrophobic and also requires a pre wetting step for filtering aqueous solutions. PVDF does in fact bind proteins quite strongly for analysis as well. In conclusion both PES and PVDF will work well, PES being the easiest to use and the most cost effective and PDVF being a bit more expensive but may be better suited for filtering applications that require a high protein retention rate. If considering the PVDF option, make sure the formulation is Hydrophilic. This reply is giving really giving @Synergy Forge vibes :geek:. I hope this helps and ill be happy to answer any other questions you may have.
 
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Can always count on you sir. Seriously though, thats a bummer. I was actually hoping you and about 2-3 other people on here were gonna have some info for me on this since I can’t message you all direct.

Ordered a bunch of the golds from the source who makes you gay, and I haven’t yet, but just want to be sure I’m good if I get one of those cloudy vials a few of them guys brought up.

It's not 2 or 3 other people, just one

One guy has been saying that just because millions of people have been using non-filtered GH since forever, doesn't mean it's safe

The he'll provide some unrelated details that might convince you it's true

But doesn't change the fact that everyone has been using non-filtered GH, it works, no weird infections, etc etc

Dude has a weird agenda? no other explanation (?)

If you get a cloudy vial: bin it, filter it, send the next one to Jano,,, whatever, no big deal
 

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I do it because it's cheap, easy, and fast and if it provides some additional safety, why not. I filter my gear using those multispike vials, too.

There is some evidence that even subclinical minor infections can increase risk of arthritis as you age, etc., and my joints are already fucked enough.

On the other hand, I'm trusting vendor testing for pretty much everything and trusting that not only is it accurate and applicable to the batch that I believe I'm buying but that it's even the same thing at all, when there's all sorts of room from anything ranging from honest mix-ups to outright malice that could mean this trust doesn't pan out. But getting everything tested would be more significantly more work and I'm also more skeeved out by the idea of sending a controlled substance through the mail vs. receiving one.

Filtering makes sense to me, but I won't claim that not filtering is going to make you fall over dead - that doesn't, empirically, appear to be the case. So you do you. I ain't gonna judge you for it one way or the other.
 

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Hello, ill go ahead and answer this for you. Your solution is whats considered in the scientific world "hydrophilic" which simply means hydro (water) and philia (friend) meaning the active ingredient(s) in the vial can dissolve in water very easily. PES (Polyethersulfone) itself is naturally hydrophilic and is used in general aqueous filtration as well as enzyme and protein filtration. PES also holds low protein binding properties which greatly reduces any sample loss during the filtration process. Now lets talk about PVDF (Polyvinylidene Difluoride), depending on how the filter is formulated, and it also being a fluoropolymer, this material can be both hydrophilic and hydrophobic and also requires a pre wetting step for filtering aqueous solutions. PVDF does in fact bind proteins quite strongly for analysis as well. In conclusion both PES and PVDF will work well, PES being the easiest to use and the most cost effective and PDVF being a bit more expensive but may be better suited for filtering applications that require a high protein retention rate. If considering the PVDF option, make sure the formulation is Hydrophilic. This reply is giving really giving @Synergy Forge vibes :geek:. I hope this helps and ill be happy to answer any other questions you may have.
I appreciate the detailed response sir 🙏🏼💪🏽 this is the exact type of answer/info I was looking for!. Funny you said it had Syn vibes because I actually had emailed him direct about it and was waiting on response because of the knowledge he’s schooled me on previously. I swear it’s like the guy has a PhD in AAS 🤣

Again, appreciate the willingness to help with other questions I may have. That definitely just earned you some future business 💪🏽
 

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You tagged @readalot???

Why???

That dude never used UGL gear or generic HGH. What makes him a good person to ask?
Tagged him after you didn’t seem interested because he’s always seem to have some sort of opinion lol literally just looking for peoples opinions on it. In reality, I was looking for an answer originally from Syn, you, sector and Astro and raven (based off previous reading, all people who definitely had knowledge with GH) I know 100% from other stuff I’ve seen you post that you knew one way or another. I had already spoke to sector and Astro and was waiting on Syn.

From that point on, other opinions were welcomed is all, and he’s always got one lol
 

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Tagged him after you didn’t seem interested because he’s always seem to have some sort of opinion lol literally just looking for peoples opinions on it. In reality, I was looking for an answer originally from Syn, you, sector and Astro and raven (based off previous reading, all people who definitely had knowledge with GH) I know 100% from other stuff I’ve seen you post that you knew one way or another. I had already spoke to sector and Astro and was waiting on Syn.

From that point on, other opinions were welcomed is all, and he’s always got one lol
Sorry. I didn’t answer because I don’t filter. I don’t believe the invisible noseeums are out to get us. I think we’d see threads from older guys about how fucked up HGH made them.
 

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It's not 2 or 3 other people, just one

One guy has been saying that just because millions of people have been using non-filtered GH since forever, doesn't mean it's safe

The he'll provide some unrelated details that might convince you it's true

But doesn't change the fact that everyone has been using non-filtered GH, it works, no weird infections, etc etc

Dude has a weird agenda? no other explanation (?)

If you get a cloudy vial: bin it, filter it, send the next one to Jano,,, whatever, no big deal
I got you and appreciate it dude. I haven’t yet. Just wanted opinions from guys. I’m a GH virgin and just wanted some knowledge from people.
 

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Sorry. I didn’t answer because I don’t filter. I don’t believe the invisible noseeums are out to get us. I think we’d see threads from older guys about how fucked up HGH made them.
And I get douchenose and his 🤣 reaction immediately.

Fucker has nothing better to do with his life.


@readalot will get tagged in all my posts. 🖕
 

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I do it because it's cheap, easy, and fast and if it provides some additional safety, why not. I filter my gear using those multispike vials, too.

There is some evidence that even subclinical minor infections can increase risk of arthritis as you age, etc., and my joints are already fucked enough.

On the other hand, I'm trusting vendor testing for pretty much everything and trusting that not only is it accurate and applicable to the batch that I believe I'm buying but that it's even the same thing at all, when there's all sorts of room from anything ranging from honest mix-ups to outright malice that could mean this trust doesn't pan out. But getting everything tested would be more significantly more work and I'm also more skeeved out by the idea of sending a controlled substance through the mail vs. receiving one.

Filtering makes sense to me, but I won't claim that not filtering is going to make you fall over dead - that doesn't, empirically, appear to be the case. So you do you. I ain't gonna judge you for it one way or the other.
Exactly what I’m looking for. Appreciate you as well bro 👌

Sorry. I didn’t answer because I don’t filter. I don’t believe the invisible noseeums are out to get us. I think we’d see threads from older guys about how fucked up HGH made them.
All good bro, I can see how you are from other posts and get it. If i didnt expect something smartass sometimes, i wouldn’t even be wanting your opinion lol. I know some people think you’re an asshole, and I’ve seen shit on Meso about “which bbbg fanboy are you” to other people that say certain stuff. But I’m not an idiot, and pretty much get your thoughts/expectations. You clearly expect research to be done before someone expecting you to break down the science to them. That’s completely understandable. Like I said from the beginning, for a little while, the shit you said to people is what kept me coming back 🤣 either way, you’re good by me and appreciate any knowledge that comes from your way 💪🏽
 

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I appreciate the detailed response sir 🙏🏼💪🏽 this is the exact type of answer/info I was looking for!. Funny you said it had Syn vibes because I actually had emailed him direct about it and was waiting on response because of the knowledge he’s schooled me on previously. I swear it’s like the guy has a PhD in AAS 🤣

Again, appreciate the willingness to help with other questions I may have. That definitely just earned you some future business 💪🏽
Yes, the man is a walking encyclopedia of quality information (y)
 

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You tagged @readalot???

Why???

That dude never used UGL gear or generic HGH. What makes him a good person to ask?

What's the wager?

3k USD in XMR seems about right. 10k? You know I'm good for it. How about you?

Terms: proof of possession (UGL gear and generic GH) posted today with a nice " F BBBG" and today's date on crumpled paper.

If you ain't got it maybe try a collection from your submissives?

Sign here __________

Moment of truth
 

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What's the wager?

3k USD in XMR seems about right. 10k? You know I'm good for it. How about you?

Terms: proof of possession (UGL gear and generic GH) posted today with a nice " F BBBG" and today's date on crumpled paper.

If you ain't got it maybe try a collection from your submissives?

Sign here __________

Moment of truth
Aye. There he is! Hey welcome back!

What are you asking? So you bought UGL gear? And you want me to wager $10,000 that you didn’t?

What the fuck would I care for? 🤷‍♂️

Hey buddy. Congrats! I’m glad you finally did. I don’t need to see “proof”.

Ha! “Submissives”?? You mean friends? You could have some too if you’d quit being a cunt!
 
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