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How Many Pounds A Week Can You Lose on gear + Tirz?

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There could be an entire thread on this. Certainly can't be based on how long you've been lifting, cuz a lot of guys spend years just spinning wheels. No significant amount of time on any specific program.

Was it rhetorical or do you have a proposition?
đź’Ż on there could be a thread on 'level' of people on these forums.

Some people seem to believe if they post the most, get the most likes or are the loudest, that makes them advanced cuz you can't question that logic.

The vast majority of us are gym bros and hardcore gym bros. Those that claim or attempt to appear otherwise (as if they are serious competitors or elite) usually have hidden sales/grift agendas and/or they just aren't honest with themselves or anyone else.
 

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đź’Ż on there could be a thread on 'level' of people on these forums.

Some people seem to believe if they post the most, get the most likes or are the loudest, that makes them advanced cuz you can't question that logic.

The vast majority of us are gym bros and hardcore gym bros. Those that claim or attempt to appear otherwise (as if they are serious competitors or elite) usually have hidden sales/grift agendas and/or they just aren't honest with themselves or anyone else.
Yeah I'm not going by whatever the standards are here. I'm saying compared to the general gym going population, I am somewhere between intermediate and advanced.
 

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Yeah. Recomping wasn't really happening for me at 250 MG. To be clear, I'm somewhere between intermediate and advanced lifter.

And lets be clear about another thing - the indirect benefits of TRT on weight loss are HUGE.. Why did I avoid cutting when I was natty? Because I couldn't sleep, I had anxiety, stayed in bed all the time, depressed.. All types of shit. But on gear and Tirz.. I don't have any of that.


Now the unfortunate side of cutting on gear.. You have to cut lower. I look at pictures of myself at 20% bodyfat when I was natty.. I had a defined jawline and shit.

I'm closing in on 20% now, and I look like the fucking michilin man. Plus, Its just so much safer to stay sub 20% on gear because of estrogen BP etc. This is gear 101 shit right here though I'm preaching to the choir.
Fair - if you're hypogonadal and that shit is wrecking your life then 100% you can see a huge difference.

There's a lot of people out there that seem to think that more gear = huge boost to fat loss for some reason, though. Saw some pubmed that mentioned people on anavar saw a reduction in VAT or that something increases lipolysis or whatever and think that that will be a huge difference maker.
 

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Fair - if you're hypogonadal and that shit is wrecking your life then 100% you can see a huge difference.

There's a lot of people out there that seem to think that more gear = huge boost to fat loss for some reason, though. Saw some pubmed that mentioned people on anavar saw a reduction in VAT or that something increases lipolysis or whatever and think that that will be a huge difference maker.
I'm fucking... Definitely not that shit. Well whatever.. Either way, it damn sure helps retain muscle on a cut. And that's what matters.
 

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I'm fucking... Definitely not that shit. Well whatever.. Either way, it damn sure helps retain muscle on a cut. And that's what matters.
Not sleeping, having anxiety, staying in bed, depressed, etc. are all pretty major symptoms of being hypogonadal and going on gear would explicitly fix that.

Did you get your testosterone levels checked before you hopped on?
 

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Not sleeping, having anxiety, staying in bed, depressed, etc. are all pretty major symptoms of being hypogonadal and going on gear would explicitly fix that.

Did you get your testosterone levels checked before you hopped on?
Not sleeping, anxiety, staying in bed, low energy --- during a cut. A cut in which I would increase my adderall dose

Testosterone fixed some of that. Most importantly I know I'm not losing muscle and so that's one source of stress that I don't have to deal with

I'm Paulie from the Sopranos man... Trust me there's no hypogonadism here
 

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đź’Ż on there could be a thread on 'level' of people on these forums.

Some people seem to believe if they post the most, get the most likes or are the loudest, that makes them advanced cuz you can't question that logic.

The vast majority of us are gym bros and hardcore gym bros. Those that claim or attempt to appear otherwise (as if they are serious competitors or elite) usually have hidden sales/grift agendas and/or they just aren't honest with themselves or anyone else.
Oooooh… sounds like you have some juicy gossip. Tell us. Name the names. Let’s hear it. Spill the beans. Who are these “some people”?
 

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Oooooh… sounds like you have some juicy gossip. Tell us. Name the names. Let’s hear it. Spill the beans. Who are these “some people”?
Its a general observation bro.
I told you before I haven't been referencing you or throwing darts at you. If you want to believe something different, its on you.
Lets move on.
 
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Its a general observation bro.
I told you before I haven't been referencing you or throwing darts at you. If you want to believe something different, its on you.
Lets move on.
Did I say me?

You brought it up. Let’s hear it! All ears. Take the stage bro, name names!! We’re all dying to hear your info!
 

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Did I say me?

You brought it up. Let’s hear it! All ears. Take the stage bro, name names!! We’re all dying to hear your info!
Reference my post above one more time.
I'm not sure why you want to go this route.

Just back the fuck off and lets move on.
 

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Some people seem to believe if they post the most, get the most likes or are the loudest, that makes them advanced cuz you can't question that logic.

Those that claim or attempt to appear otherwise (as if they are serious competitors or elite) usually have hidden sales/grift agendas and/or they just aren't honest with themselves or anyone else.
YOU brought it up.

Who are these “some people”. Because if you just tossed it out as a general comment with nothing specific to support it then YOU are one of these people. Have some kind of substance.

What level would you consider yourself?
 

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YOU brought it up.

Who are these “some people”. Because if you just tossed it out as a general comment with nothing specific to support it then YOU are one of these people. Have some kind of substance.

What level would you consider yourself?
I've been pretty clear what I am. I'm a gym bro, used to be a hardcore gym bro but these days I've tamed it down a bit.

Not playing your little games. You know your tactics don't work with me. Go put them to use on someone else.

Have a great day.
 

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I've been pretty clear what I am. I'm a gym bro, used to be a hardcore gym bro but these days I've tamed it down a bit.

Not playing your little games. You know your tactics don't work with me. Go put them to use on someone else.

Have a great day.
Lol. I called you out. There was no game. No tactics.

You posted some shit and provided NOTHING to back it up.

You have a good day too.
 

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Ive been losing 1.5 pounds a week but I want to start restricting calories more. I read somewhere that your body can only burn 25 calories per pound of fat. So if I have 50 pounds I could do 1250 a day. 2.5 a week But maybe the gear would allow you to burn more?

I want to see if I can do 1250 a day and lose 12 pounds in 5 weeks.
DNP
 

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Starting point matters a lot here. If you're at a really high bf% and are a novice lifter, recomp is a real thing and you can put on pretty significant LBM while losing weight. I wouldn't recommend blasting gear in this situation because of all the health risks that go along with it, but a TRTish dose, particularly if you're low in the range (and you likely are if you're at a high bf%) can do a lot, and the additional LBM you put on is going to add up on the fat loss side of things as you go through the process, too.

If you're already an experienced lifter and have run cycles before and just let yourself go because life got in the way or whatever, but you still have most of the muscle mass, have still been lifting, etc., recomp is a meme and you should just cut first while not worrying about adding muscle.

Gear isn't going to help you lose weight in any real way except indirectly. If you're in a position to add LBM, that LBM is more metabolically active than fat, and the more you add and longer you go the more that adds up. Nutrient partitioning and lipolysis from AAS and HGH can help with using fat for energy preferentially, but they don't overcome the second law of thermodynamics, and if you free up a bunch of fat for energy that doesn't get used, it just gets stored as fat again. But none of it is going to make a significant direct impact.

Either way you want to stick around TRT levels of gear, but in one situation you can reasonably expect to get bigger muscles and smaller on the scale, and the other you should just be trying to maintain the muscle you have while cutting fat.
Im sorry but steroids tend to bind to androgen receptors and directly influence body composition.
 

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No DNP discussion allowed on here - read the rules.
Im sorry but steroids tend to bind to androgen receptors and directly influence body composition.
Steroids binding to androgen receptors doesn't suddenly make them directly make you lose weight. Saying something binds to some receptor is a pretty meaningless statement.
 
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