Is this pct enough with test,tren,NPP?

[BBBG]

Uh, my post was just pointing out the irony in someone claiming a blanket statement here is correct because their referenced paper proves it, yet they go to another forum and ask who they consider to be an expert if the referenced paper proves the blanket statement (essentially asking their 'expert' to explain the paper to them).

Then their 'expert' says, no, this paper doesn't prove shit and certainly not your blanket statement.

So the guy's conclusion is well, I see that this paper does suck but I still stand on my hill of dumb and will make another blanket statement saying that there are for sure other better options for those wanting to PCT and no one should take a 19-nor and PCT.

You can't make this shit up. Funny AF. I had a good laugh when I saw that.

Ah-yup. Sounds good. Blast away.

 

[lifter6973]

Ah-yup. Sounds good. Blast away.

Please don't take my rant as having anything against you, I don't.
You didn't question my opinion, credibility or supposed lack of information. I respect your opinion.

On the other hand, a guy that has literally only taken steroids for 3 years and has no research background wants to question my credibility and knowledge.
I'm a guy that started cycling more than 20 years ago and scientific/medical research is what I've been involved with for my entire career.

So yeah, I apologize for going off the rails but when someone like that comes at me and tries to discredit me and my opinion, I do tend to put them on blast. I'll work on that but JFC, the constant false blanket statements as fact are like my kryptonite.

FFS, he even posted this

so now he does believe in bro science and parrots it because the highest levels of coaching say it according to him.

And my credibility is supposedly shot because I have been banned from some forums, the old go to. Yeah, it just doesn't work like that.
There are people that know better and those that want to believe BS, I don't care. I'll take real life credibility over internet smoke and mirrors/BS.

 

[BBBG]

Please don't take my rant as having anything against you, I don't.
You didn't question my opinion, credibility or supposed lack of information. I respect your opinion.

On the other hand, a guy that has literally only taken steroids for 3 years and has no research background wants to question my credibility and knowledge.
I'm a guy that started cycling more than 20 years ago and scientific/medical research is what I've been involved with for my entire career.

So yeah, I apologize for going off the rails but when someone like that comes at me and tries to discredit me and my opinion, I do tend to put them on blast. I'll work on that but JFC, the constant false blanket statements as fact are like my kryptonite.

FFS, he even posted this
View attachment 5730
so now he does believe in bro science and parrots it because the highest levels of coaching say it according to him.

And my credibility is supposedly shot because I have been banned from some forums, the old go to. Yeah, it just doesn't work like that.
There are people that know better and those that want to believe BS, I don't care. I'll take real life credibility over internet smoke and mirrors/BS.

Trust me, there’s no such thing as “credibility”. That’s gone. Tik Tok generation all has ADHD and only read what they agree with. If the advice tells them they’re right, they appreciate. If the advice cautions them to rethink anything they stop reading and skip to the next post.

Sounds good! Blast away!

is going to get me a fuck ton more “likes” and I’ll have all the dopamine hits I’ll need to get me thru my day!

 

[AlexDavis43]

I'm a guy that started cycling more than 20 years ago and scientific/medical research is what I've been involved with for my entire career.

Hey I'm in that club. Hugs.

 

[lifter6973]

Hey I'm in that club. Hugs.

Word. We be in the long tooth power geeks club. Hugs back at ya.

 

[hexagonal]

Please don't take my rant as having anything against you, I don't.
You didn't question my opinion, credibility or supposed lack of information. I respect your opinion.

On the other hand, a guy that has literally only taken steroids for 3 years and has no research background wants to question my credibility and knowledge.
I'm a guy that started cycling more than 20 years ago and scientific/medical research is what I've been involved with for my entire career.

So yeah, I apologize for going off the rails but when someone like that comes at me and tries to discredit me and my opinion, I do tend to put them on blast. I'll work on that but JFC, the constant false blanket statements as fact are like my kryptonite.

FFS, he even posted this
View attachment 5730
so now he does believe in bro science and parrots it because the highest levels of coaching say it according to him.

And my credibility is supposedly shot because I have been banned from some forums, the old go to. Yeah, it just doesn't work like that.
There are people that know better and those that want to believe BS, I don't care. I'll take real life credibility over internet smoke and mirrors/BS.

I don't have any particular horse in this race because I'm on TRT for life regardless, but to be frank, I haven't seen anything in this thread that gives me particular reason to trust you (not that I trust him, either.)

Having been involved in science and research your entire career, surely you can understand why someone would be hesitant to just take a random stranger's word for it when they say they have access to some NDA'ed or otherwise confidential resource proving their point but that they can't share it, right - or some source that we just have to trust you is real and is as knowledgeable as you say? Would you trust that argument being made coming from the other direction?

Perhaps if I wasn't a newb to the community I would have some idea of who you are and why I should trust you when you're making an argument that requires us just trust you, but as is, for the uninitiated, there's not really any reason to particularly believe (or disbelieve) you that I can see.

I don't mean this as an attack - for all I know if I had been around I'd know you're A Dude and have a long history of knowing your shit. Just sayin' that in a vacuum I can understand why your post wasn't particularly convincing.

 

[Jgsturge]

I don't have any particular horse in this race because I'm on TRT for life regardless, but to be frank, I haven't seen anything in this thread that gives me particular reason to trust you (not that I trust him, either.)

Having been involved in science and research your entire career, surely you can understand why someone would be hesitant to just take a random stranger's word for it when they say they have access to some NDA'ed or otherwise confidential resource proving their point but that they can't share it, right - or some source that we just have to trust you is real and is as knowledgeable as you say? Would you trust that argument being made coming from the other direction?

Perhaps if I wasn't a newb to the community I would have some idea of who you are and why I should trust you when you're making an argument that requires us just trust you, but as is, for the uninitiated, there's not really any reason to particularly believe (or disbelieve) you that I can see.

I don't mean this as an attack - for all I know if I had been around I'd know you're A Dude and have a long history of knowing your shit. Just sayin' that in a vacuum I can understand why your post wasn't particularly convincing.

I do like to see research papers, academic journal citations, and other scholarly articles to back claims. Even if it only makes me feel like I'm informed, whether I truly understand them or not lol.

Eh.. y'all fight it out, I'm gonna listen to @BBBG and be over here eating and blasting away.