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Learning Jiu Jitsu.. Will my Test E cycle give me a leg up?

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Going to the local grappling gym 5x a week starting next month (when i can afford it) and will be about 3 weeks into a 500mg x 14 week Test E cycle.. do you guys think I will get some advantages as a newbie from the added strength, or will I just get my ass kicked regardless? Gonna stick with it either way..
 
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Going to the local grappling gym 5x a week starting next month (when i can afford it) and will be about 3 weeks into a 500mg x 14 week Test E cycle.. do you guys think I will get some advantages as a newbie from the added strength, or will I just get my ass kicked regardless? Gonna stick with it either way..
To follow up on this... I know I wont actually get any benefit three weeks into a Test E cycle, I am talking about during the 14 week period as a whole
 

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As far as I know, grappling is more about skill and technique than strength, so no, it’s not going to really help you that much. It might even work against you unless you are constantly training flexibility and cardio. It seems bodybuilding doesn’t really seem to translate to fighting sports besides strength.

I have to be honest, jiu jitsu seems like one of the most homosexual activities ever. You’re ‘rolling’ around with a bunch of smelly nerds who heard Jocko Willink talk about it once and thought having some local Grindr participant’s rancid butt hole hovering over their face via north-south position a few times a week would turn them into a bonafide badass ball sniffing champion. The idea of subjecting oneself five times a week (not sure how you even have the time/energy for that if you’re already advanced in lifting/training) is insane to me, but more power to you if you know jiu jitsu is your thing.
 

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To follow up on this... I know I wont actually get any benefit three weeks into a Test E cycle, I am talking about during the 14 week period as a whole
Not really, no. If you're doing this seriously I cant imagine you being able to also get in consistent and intense weight training and not being burned out from just your jiu jitsu training. As stated above that sport seems more about technique and stamina(cardio) neither of which is going to be addressed with Test. Even if you do get in weight training simply being stronger isn't going to help you once you're rolling and falling and just trying to learn the basics.
 

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Nope. If you need proof of this just check out videos online of 'bodybuilders' vs 'mma fighters' or 'black belts' on Youtube. Joey Szatsmary (may be spelled wrong) does BJJ and is good, I think he's close to getting his purple belt but you can see an idea of how little his size (he also has a pretty big fuckin frame naturally too) and strength helps him. Jujimufu was on his channel and rolled with a guy and it wasn't even close. Only thing gear does is help your body rebuild any damaged tissue a bit quicker and may slightly make your hips stronger and grip stronger but that's about all.
 
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As far as I know, grappling is more about skill and technique than strength, so no, it’s not going to really help you that much. It might even work against you unless you are constantly training flexibility and cardio. It seems bodybuilding doesn’t really seem to translate to fighting sports besides strength.

I have to be honest, jiu jitsu seems like one of the most homosexual activities ever. You’re ‘rolling’ around with a bunch of smelly nerds who heard Jocko Willink talk about it once and thought having some local Grindr participant’s rancid butt hole hovering over their face via north-south position a few times a week would turn them into a bonafide badass ball sniffing champion. The idea of subjecting oneself five times a week (not sure how you even have the time/energy for that if you’re already advanced in lifting/training) is insane to me, but more power to you if you know jiu jitsu is your thing.
lmao I appreciate your honesty but I can assure you I am not gay.. I have a boxing background was hoping to get into some amateur MMA.. Grindr bro lmfao come on
As far as I know, grappling is more about skill and technique than strength, so no, it’s not going to really help you that much. It might even work against you unless you are constantly training flexibility and cardio. It seems bodybuilding doesn’t really seem to translate to fighting sports besides strength.

I have to be honest, jiu jitsu seems like one of the most homosexual activities ever. You’re ‘rolling’ around with a bunch of smelly nerds who heard Jocko Willink talk about it once and thought having some local Grindr participant’s rancid butt hole hovering over their face via north-south position a few times a week would turn them into a bonafide badass ball sniffing champion. The idea of subjecting oneself five times a week (not sure how you even have the time/energy for that if you’re already advanced in lifting/training) is insane to me, but more power to you if you know jiu jitsu is your thing.
 

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As someone who has rolled before for an extensive period of time. Yes, you will have a leg up. BUT only if you are at the same level as the person you are rolling with.

You will recover faster than anyone there and be stronger than most. You will be able to jump right back into training because of this.

As everyone said, you won't have a leg up on really anyone at a higher belt than you. It kinda has to be at the same skill level.
 

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Going to the local grappling gym 5x a week starting next month (when i can afford it) and will be about 3 weeks into a 500mg x 14 week Test E cycle.. do you guys think I will get some advantages as a newbie from the added strength, or will I just get my ass kicked regardless? Gonna stick with it either way..
Absolutely. Steroids give you an advantage in almost every sport when used appropriately. The only downside to steroid use in combat sports might be if you get too pumped up to move or stay on top of cardio function, then again this is relative to training.

I’d probably recommend test/EQ in moderate low doses (200mg each) and maybe some trenbolone if you can manage cardio effects with a good bronchodilator. Then we have the aggression strength boosters like halotest and Cheque drop for pre fight stuff.

But to answer the testosterone alone should aid recovery and strength.
 

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Absolutely. Steroids give you an advantage in almost every sport when used appropriately. The only downside to steroid use in combat sports might be if you get too pumped up to move or stay on top of cardio function, then again this is relative to training.

I’d probably recommend test/EQ in moderate low doses (200mg each) and maybe some trenbolone if you can manage cardio effects with a good bronchodilator. Then we have the aggression strength boosters like halotest and Cheque drop for pre fight stuff.

But to answer the testosterone alone should aid recovery and strength.

I'd agree with this. I'd think 100 test with a higher dose of boldenone would be optimal
 

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Going to the local grappling gym 5x a week starting next month (when i can afford it) and will be about 3 weeks into a 500mg x 14 week Test E cycle.. do you guys think I will get some advantages as a newbie from the added strength, or will I just get my ass kicked regardless? Gonna stick with it either way..
Overall IMO Knowledge, practice and technique is key no doubt, It was slightly discouraging when first training BJJ because its not your common form of self defense but looking past what seems to be an unusual form and close encounter, the truth is 90% of fights end up on the floor and the lack of training in this area will be a disadvantage. I will say when blasting Test and AAS compounds they do give me a heightened sense of awareness and alertness when it comes to reaction time and congnitive response but that doesnt mean I will win especially if the person is more trained then me but there is a reason why testing is conducted for these compounds in MMA and people are disqualified for using them as it does give an advantage for many reasons, Even MMA fighter GSP states that he thinks its not fair if fighters are taking gear as he feels it gives a trained professional an advantage. Gear is more likely to provide more stamina, strength, explosiveness, alertness etc. but thats not the foundation of what makes a good fighter we must train hard for a while before anything else. Wish you the best on your endeavors. Best regards - VF
 

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I’ve grappled all my life, from a D1 wrestler, to years of training in SOCP. While never straight Jiujitsu, the principles still apply.

In your first year or two, I would say it depends on your age. Recovery time comes into play in your 30’s. Gear will help with that. But if you’re in your 20’s, you need to be focused on technique. Sure, gear can help with the strength aspect. But that’s all relative to your own body. And technique will win over strength almost every time. If you have two equally matched combatants, then yes, the gear can give you an advantage. The question is, are you trying to compete in this professionally? If so… then valid question. If you’re just training for self defense, then why even worry?
 
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I’ve grappled all my life, from a D1 wrestler, to years of training in SOCP. While never straight Jiujitsu, the principles still apply.

In your first year or two, I would say it depends on your age. Recovery time comes into play in your 30’s. Gear will help with that. But if you’re in your 20’s, you need to be focused on technique. Sure, gear can help with the strength aspect. But that’s all relative to your own body. And technique will win over strength almost every time. If you have two equally matched combatants, then yes, the gear can give you an advantage. The question is, are you trying to compete in this professionally? If so… then valid question. If you’re just training for self defense, then why even worry?
I just want to do some amateur competitions because Ive competed in sports all my life and miss the fun of it. Nothing serious at all mostly just hoping to make some new friends who are also athletic and into sports thats the real reason im trying jitsu. Im 28 btw
 
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I just want to do some amateur competitions because Ive competed in sports all my life and miss the fun of it. Nothing serious at all mostly just hoping to make some new friends who are also athletic and into sports thats the real reason im trying jitsu. Im 28 btw
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I’ve grappled all my life, from a D1 wrestler, to years of training in SOCP. While never straight Jiujitsu, the principles still apply.

In your first year or two, I would say it depends on your age. Recovery time comes into play in your 30’s. Gear will help with that. But if you’re in your 20’s, you need to be focused on technique. Sure, gear can help with the strength aspect. But that’s all relative to your own body. And technique will win over strength almost every time. If you have two equally matched combatants, then yes, the gear can give you an advantage. The question is, are you trying to compete in this professionally? If so… then valid question. If you’re just training for self defense, then why even worry?
Also I was planning on running this cycle either way I was just curious
 

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I’ve grappled all my life, from a D1 wrestler, to years of training in SOCP. While never straight Jiujitsu, the principles still apply.

In your first year or two, I would say it depends on your age. Recovery time comes into play in your 30’s. Gear will help with that. But if you’re in your 20’s, you need to be focused on technique. Sure, gear can help with the strength aspect. But that’s all relative to your own body. And technique will win over strength almost every time. If you have two equally matched combatants, then yes, the gear can give you an advantage. The question is, are you trying to compete in this professionally? If so… then valid question. If you’re just training for self defense, then why even worry?
Suprised to SOCP in here. Small world
 

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If your older TRT and HGH will help with recovery. You could play with drugs to improve hematology and indurance.

But mostly it’s mat time and grit.
 
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Going to the local grappling gym 5x a week starting next month (when i can afford it) and will be about 3 weeks into a 500mg x 14 week Test E cycle.. do you guys think I will get some advantages as a newbie from the added strength, or will I just get my ass kicked regardless? Gonna stick with it either way..
I’m a brown belt with 3 stripes and compete regularly , I’ve done Grapplers quest, naga, pam am etc . I definitely feel recovery is so much better and can roll more/harder for longer. I train shirtless under the gi so if the nipples get a little sensitive it’s very annoying.
 
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