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1st. Thoughts on adding low dose Tren A (100-150mg ) now 14weeks out worth it? Then increasing to 300mg for the last 8 weeks?

2nd. Any changes or suggestions?

Thanks in advance!
 

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Yeah I am. Talking to my coach about it too. Just seeing any other opinions.
Then I have some thoughts. What is taking test E and mast E out only at peak week going to do? Usually you’d switch to P 8-10 weeks out and then drop 1-2 weeks out just to kick the last bit of water retention. Think about half life. E wouldn’t be even close to out of your system dropping only at peak week.

Why does GH go up as you get closer to the show? Again, water retention would indicate it goes down.

Why is metformin needed during a prep when your carbs are being cut and cardio is increasing?

T3 should NEVER be taken alone. It’s nondiscriminate as to your weight loss. Yes you’ll lose weight, but are you trying to lose weight or lose fat? If you’re on gh you should be taking T4 instead and let the conversion mechanism do it’s job in regulating the metabolism and additional lipolysis.

Clenbuterol, what does 20 up to 80 mean across the whole prep? It should be incrementally increasing.

Do you have high blood pressure? What’s the telmisartan for?

I obviously have concerns lol and not to you but I’d very much question your coach. This is pretty out of whack for a prep cycle.
 

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Then I have some thoughts. What is taking test E and mast E out only at peak week going to do? Usually you’d switch to P 8-10 weeks out and then drop 1-2 weeks out just to kick the last bit of water retention. Think about half life. E wouldn’t be even close to out of your system dropping only at peak week.

Why does GH go up as you get closer to the show? Again, water retention would indicate it goes down.

Why is metformin needed during a prep when your carbs are being cut and cardio is increasing?

T3 should NEVER be taken alone. It’s nondiscriminate as to your weight loss. Yes you’ll lose weight, but are you trying to lose weight or lose fat? If you’re on gh you should be taking T4 instead and let the conversion mechanism do it’s job in regulating the metabolism and additional lipolysis.

Clenbuterol, what does 20 up to 80 mean across the whole prep? It should be incrementally increasing.

Do you have high blood pressure? What’s the telmisartan for?

I obviously have concerns lol and not to you but I’d very much question your coach. This is pretty out of whack for a prep cycle.
Thanks for the input! All seems to be legit too. Going to talk with my coach on the Mast P and Test P 10 weeks out. Seems to make sense. The GH easy switch around too. Again thanks for the input I appreciate it.
 

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Just to add, you might want to pickup ketotifen to minimize beta 2 receptor downregulation from the clen. Taking it every day for a week once every 2-3 weeks ought to be enough.

My other major concern is that you don’t have any beta blockers here. You’re going to run clen, Tren, winstrol, and T3 and not have cardiac support? Try to get nebivolol and take 5 mg per day with your clen.
 

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Then I have some thoughts. What is taking test E and mast E out only at peak week going to do? Usually you’d switch to P 8-10 weeks out and then drop 1-2 weeks out just to kick the last bit of water retention. Think about half life. E wouldn’t be even close to out of your system dropping only at peak week.

Why does GH go up as you get closer to the show? Again, water retention would indicate it goes down.

Why is metformin needed during a prep when your carbs are being cut and cardio is increasing?

T3 should NEVER be taken alone. It’s nondiscriminate as to your weight loss. Yes you’ll lose weight, but are you trying to lose weight or lose fat? If you’re on gh you should be taking T4 instead and let the conversion mechanism do it’s job in regulating the metabolism and additional lipolysis.

Clenbuterol, what does 20 up to 80 mean across the whole prep? It should be incrementally increasing.

Do you have high blood pressure? What’s the telmisartan for?

I obviously have concerns lol and not to you but I’d very much question your coach. This is pretty out of whack for a prep cycle.
Damn this was well thought and insightful
 

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Captain America I’d love to hire you as a coach. I see your informational comments and replies & can tell you are the real deal. If you ever are up to do some coaching I’m in.
Thanks bro. I’m not currently but have been considering it.
And I'd like to hire you as a massage therapist Captain America. Lmk
I am not a massage therapist. Would give horrible massages.
 

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Current NPC Men's physique competitor - these are my thoughts:
1. Tren is in WAY too long. In my opinion, tren is an "icing on the cake" drug. It's basically for peaking in the last 3-4 weeks. Any longer than that and the toxicity and the sides are just not worth it. It's easily the most uselessly abused drug in our sport and in my opinion, 8 weeks is way too long. Hepatotoxic, neurotoxic, sleep like shit, mentally feel unhinged.. we're trying to peak.. not trying to die.
2. Winstrol is ok. I prefer anavar, but if you respond better to winny, that's cool. If you've never run it before, be prepared for your joints to feel like ass. I don't use it for that reason.
3. Keep the GH consistent the entire time except for peak week (drop it). Don't ramp it up when you should be in the process of seeing major day to day differences.. it will just throw you off mentally seeing your body do weird shit that close to the show.
4. Halotestin - really? I mean, if you're comfortable using it that's cool but this shit is known to turn people's livers into Swiss cheese. Last 2 weeks should be ok but be prepared to feel heavily fatigued and you better have NAC / TUDCA somewhere in the mix because you risk some serious trouble along with everything else you'll be taking.
5. T3. Competitors screw themselves and their peak up with this all the time. Makes them look soft as fuck. Again.. if you have experience with it that's cool but I'd avoid.
 

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@MalcolmWare16$ what did your coach say god dammit??
my bad
My bad it’s been a suuuper busy last two weeks 🤦🏽‍♂️ just bought a house, so crazy.

So my coach said, the metro and telmisartan for 1681651305762.png
As far the the test P and mast p switch up ( which I agreed ) he was super cool with that, he said since this is our first run together this is a more general cycle and we will adjust weekly as my body responds to the compounds as needed. Just started my 12week protocol so I will 100% keep this thread updated. I’m open to suggestions on the feedback, always nice having a community like this! I really appreciate you guys honestly
 
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