New to GH - Newbie Advice?

[michhcky87]

Hope to make this post short and to the point.

I'm 5'8" 190 lbs. 13%bf. Currently on test/mast/var and just added Reta into the mix to help shred up. I've been using gear for almost 15 years, but this is my first run with Reta and my interest and curiosity of GH has skyrocketed lately. I admittedly, know nothing. I'm a clinician and have access to journals, trials, publications, etc. so I will be doing my research on it, but from a bodybuilding/sauce perspective, where do I start?! I hear people talk about different colored tops. "black tops" "yellow tops" etc. Is this indicating different types of GH? How many types are there and which is most common/popular? Where does someone start who has NEVER used GH? Literally, I feel like I did as a 14 year old in GNC trying to learn about creatine. I know nothing here lol, so i appreciate all your input and help!

 

[AnonymityismyRemedy]

Tops mean nothing.

Most people are buying China made HGH. It's assumed most everything offered here only comes from a very small pool of manufacturers (if not 1-2) and resold. It tests well, generally you want minimal to 0 dimer with 97% or more purity.

You'll buy in a kit at a time, probably 10 vials per kit in powder form. You'll want bacteriostatic water and insulin needles, like 5/16ths length 1ml. Math is pretty simple, HGH is 3iu per milligram, so a 10mg vial would be 30ish iu depending on purity. Math says 1ml in a 10mg/30iu vial , each tenth would be 3iu.

People generally start 2-3 IU and most users stop around 6IU, typically injected in one shot before bed. Fasting blood glucose and a1c can monitor insulin resistance, berberine or metformin can be used to mitigate that, along with the single shot at night , but shouldn't be a problem at the above doses

You want to run it preferably a year or so imo, or permanently. Endogenous HGH resumes on its own without help.

 

[michhcky87]

Ter

Tops mean nothing.

Most people are buying China made HGH. It's assumed most everything offered here only comes from a very small pool of manufacturers (if not 1-2) and resold. It tests well, generally you want minimal to 0 dimer with 97% or more purity.

You'll buy in a kit at a time, probably 10 vials per kit in powder form. You'll want bacteriostatic water and insulin needles, like 5/16ths length 1ml. Math is pretty simple, HGH is 3iu per milligram, so a 10mg vial would be 30ish iu depending on purity. Math says 1ml in a 10mg/30iu vial , each tenth would be 3iu.

People generally start 2-3 IU and most users stop around 6IU, typically injected in one shot before bed. Fasting blood glucose and a1c can monitor insulin resistance, berberine or metformin can be used to mitigate that, along with the single shot at night , but shouldn't be a problem at the above doses

You want to run it preferably a year or so imo, or permanently. Endogenous HGH resumes on its own without help.

Terrific Answer.

Thank you!!

Makes a lot of sense now. Okay, so colored tops mean nothing. It's all GH, but just a matter of purity/manufacturer. SO, here's an example from K4L (source here). They are different IU's. Is this per vial or per kit (10 vials)? Trying to do the math here and not sure I'm grasping it.

Generic HGH STANDARD (100-125 IU) *Check Website For Testing	$125
Generic HGH SNOWCAP (120-130 IU) *Check Website For Testing	$145
Generic HGH DELUXE (150-185 IU) *Check Website For Testing	$165

Generic HGH SUPREME (240-300 IU) *Check Website For Testing*

$229

Generic HGH TITAN (290-310 IU) *Check Website For Testing*

 

[Arathorny]

Ter

Terrific Answer.

Thank you!!

Makes a lot of sense now. Okay, so colored tops mean nothing. It's all GH, but just a matter of purity/manufacturer. SO, here's an example from K4L (source here). They are different IU's. Is this per vial or per kit (10 vials)? Trying to do the math here and not sure I'm grasping it.

Generic HGH STANDARD (100-125 IU) *Check Website For Testing	$125
Generic HGH SNOWCAP (120-130 IU) *Check Website For Testing	$145
Generic HGH DELUXE (150-185 IU) *Check Website For Testing	$165

Generic HGH SUPREME (240-300 IU) *Check Website For Testing*

$229

Generic HGH TITAN (290-310 IU) *Check Website For Testing*

The number in the parentheses is total IUs in the kit. So for example the first line you posted there would be 100-125IU kit so 10-12.5 IU per vial.

 

[michhcky87]

The number in the parentheses is total IUs in the kit. So for example the first line you posted there would be 100-125IU kit so 10-12.5 IU per vial.

Thank you. So for example purposes, if I were to start at 3iu (which seems to be a good starting point), one vial would last me 3-4 days? So this kit would last about a month?

 

[Arathorny]

Thank you. So for example purposes, if I were to start at 3iu (which seems to be a good starting point), one vial would last me 3-4 days? So this kit would last about a month?

I won’t speak to the starting dose as I’m not very experienced there but yes your math is correct.

 

[michhcky87]

I won’t speak to the starting dose as I’m not very experienced there but yes your math is correct.

Thanks!! Got it now got it. What does "snow caps" refer to? I hear that term thrown around

 

[Arathorny]

Thanks!! Got it now got it. What does "snow caps" refer to? I hear that term thrown around

As far as I know it’s just the name of one of K4Ls kits. No difference from any of the others besides total IUs and purity like was mentioned earlier.

 

[michhcky87]

As far as I know it’s just the name of one of K4Ls kits. No difference from any of the others besides total IUs and purity like was mentioned earlier.

Good stuff!

My source carries "Somatropin" GH191AA, it's listed as on their price sheet. They carry it in all different IU's from 6iu to 36iu.

Does this seem like a good option?

 

[AnonymityismyRemedy]

I personally use K4L. I bought supreme, batch was G. You can look it up on the quality control. I picked up 12 boxes on sale, enough to run damn near 9iu all year round. HGH keeps well in the fridge, cost me about 2k.

I personally can start 3-4IU and handle it just fine, and move up to 5-6 over the course of few weeks.

 

[BBBG]

Good stuff!

My source carries "Somatropin" GH191AA, it's listed as on their price sheet. They carry it in all different IU's from 6iu to 36iu.

Does this seem like a good option?

Yes. How expensive is that though?

 

[Jron1]

I personally use K4L. I bought supreme, batch was G. You can look it up on the quality control. I picked up 12 boxes on sale, enough to run damn near 9iu all year round. HGH keeps well in the fridge, cost me about 2k.

I personally can start 3-4IU and handle it just fine, and move up to 5-6 over the course of few weeks.

Hey, I’m also a noob to GH. Currently on trt and Reta so I’m familiar with mixing up a peptide/glp 1 to use.


How long is the GH good for when it’s not constituted and still in powdered form? Do you keep the vials you aren’t ready to constitute in the fridge or just in a cool dark closet/drawer?

Once you add bac water it’s like a glp that needs to go into the fridge? How long in the fridge is it good for?

 

[AnonymityismyRemedy]

Hey, I’m also a noob to GH. Currently on trt and Reta so I’m familiar with mixing up a peptide/glp 1 to use.


How long is the GH good for when it’s not constituted and still in powdered form? Do you keep the vials you aren’t ready to constitute in the fridge or just in a cool dark closet/drawer?

Once you add bac water it’s like a glp that needs to go into the fridge? How long in the fridge is it good for?

I keep everything in you fridge. In powder form a year is easy. Once you add water it's still pretty stable but you should be using it pretty quickly as it's usually only like 10-30iu or similar. I make a vial at a time

 

[AlexDavis43]

Good stuff!

My source carries "Somatropin" GH191AA, it's listed as on their price sheet. They carry it in all different IU's from 6iu to 36iu.

Does this seem like a good option?

Your curiosity is warranted but at some point, just gotta pull the trigger. No one can tell you what is the exactly correct product to purchase.

 

[AlexDavis43]

Yes. How expensive is that though?

Dude said he is a clinician so maybe not looking for the cheapest product on the market.

 

[Jron1]

I keep everything in you fridge. In powder form a year is easy. Once you add water it's still pretty stable but you should be using it pretty quickly as it's usually only like 10-30iu or similar. I make a vial at a time

Thanks, that’s the info I was looking for. I don’t keep Reta in fridge until Bac is added. But I guess with GH it should be put in fridge even in powder form.

Might need to get a mini fridge for glp-1, peptides, and GH only. Would look like some mad scientist experiment having milk eggs and some vials all in the same place. Haha

 

[michhcky87]

Yes. How expensive is that though?

Im not sure if we can discuss specifics for pricing but it's the best pricing I've come across. Not sure what the general market average costs are?

 

[michhcky87]

Dude said he is a clinician so maybe not looking for the cheapest product on the market.

Thanks. And you're right lol. Don't want to break the bank, we all have bills and I sure am not immune to that!!!

I just want a solid GH. May pull the trigger on the Somatropin?

 

[michhcky87]

Thanks, that’s the info I was looking for. I don’t keep Reta in fridge until Bac is added. But I guess with GH it should be put in fridge even in powder form.

Might need to get a mini fridge for glp-1, peptides, and GH only. Would look like some mad scientist experiment having milk eggs and some vials all in the same place. Haha

Oh ya I only keep my hcg in fridge when it's reconstituted. Same with reta. I got 30 vials and only have one in the fridge that's reconstituted

 

[BBBG]

Im not sure if we can discuss specifics for pricing but it's the best pricing I've come across. Not sure what the general market average costs are?

You can discuss. That doesn’t break any rules here.

I’m curious if you feel the substantial cost difference is worth it.