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it all comes down to dosing, you can totally destroy yourself with this. the key is to being e2 down just above where you get s/x to the level where it works for you but now below. most ppl what I've seen overdose with plenty of horror stories floating around
Well. There’s bloodwork too that a lot of people will use to make decisions. But yes, you’re right. You don’t want super high e2 and you don’t want low e2. You want it juuuuuuust right. 👍
 

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Aromasin over A-dex?
ime with adex you can crash your e2 QUICK , but the rebound is much faster due to the reversible mechanism, but asin a irreversible (suicidal) inhibitor, may "may" take longer for e2 to recover , again its boils down to bloodwork and adjustments according to dose increase/decrease etc,,
 

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Well. There’s bloodwork too that a lot of people will use to make decisions. But yes, you’re right. You don’t want super high e2 and you don’t want low e2. You want it juuuuuuust right. 👍
i like my nipples not to hard not to cold ahahahaaa,
 

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Im 35 turning 36, does that qualify as an older guy?

I posted a few threads when I originally joined this forum and got some good feedback. I've been trying to read and research as much as I possibly can, some things like adding a second compound are not as intuitive as I had thought!
 

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Im 35 turning 36, does that qualify as an older guy?

I posted a few threads when I originally joined this forum and got some good feedback. I've been trying to read and research as much as I possibly can, some things like adding a second compound are not as intuitive as I had thought!
older is usually 40+ but if you relate as an older guy , then i guess, lmao
 

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older is usually 40+ but if you relate as an older guy , then i guess, lmao
lets compromise and say "learning from the ogs who came before me so I can avoid repeating some of their mistakes". In all seriousness I've been on trt for a few years so maybe that's why I view myself that way. Body is in really good shape except for the hormones.
 

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lets compromise and say "learning from the ogs who came before me so I can avoid repeating some of their mistakes". In all seriousness I've been on trt for a few years so maybe that's why I view myself that way. Body is in really good shape except for the hormones.
the hormones balancing act is a tough one, your post is vague at best, what are you trying to do , justify adding another compound etc? I just don't know what your after tbh,,
 

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the hormones balancing act is a tough one, your post is vague at best, what are you trying to do , justify adding another compound etc? I just don't know what your after tbh,,
Apologies, I try not to type too much but sometimes thats worse and the message is unclear.

What I meant to say was that I've just been reading and researching because I don't have as much experience as most of the members here. Things that I thought might be fairly cut and dry , like adding a second compound, ended up having a lot more complexity than I would have thought. I am pretty happy where I am right now after taking community advice and getting up near 400 test a week. Not really after anything, just figured this area of the forums was more my speed based on what I was reading in terms of longer term goals.

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Re: two compounds, I had asked some questions previously about exactly how a person goes about doing that, the logistics of it. I knew about blends by sources but did not know if people drew up both compounds in the same injection for each injection or made their own homemade blend (I have seen people buying high concentration oils and cutting them so I didn't figure this was too far off.) My experience has been with Test-e and I was trying to consider all the factors (dulling the needle, sterility risk, etc) that would go into eod/ed pinning of shorter esters.

I've also been reading a decent amount about people using test-d and that has been an interesting read.

Second edit sorry-
re: hormones, I meant in general my body is in a pretty good state except for needing trt. I was pretty dialed in on my trt dose and 360ish test-e per week has me feeling pretty good for a blast.
 
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it all comes down to dosing, you can totally destroy yourself with this. the key is to being e2 down just above where you get s/x to the level where it works for you but now below. most ppl what I've seen overdose with plenty of horror stories floating around
Aromasin is the much more potent one that can bottom out your E2? I remember reading a bit about one of the AI that has the potential. @BBBG is correct though, I need to go to the drawing board and do some reading and study.
 

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Aromasin is the much more potent one that can bottom out your E2? I remember reading a bit about one of the AI that has the potential. @BBBG is correct though, I need to go to the drawing board and do some reading and study.
No. Other way around. It's pretty tough to crash estrogen with Aromasin just because of the way it works. You can, but it would be for a very brief, likely unnoticeable time period.
 

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ime with adex you can crash your e2 QUICK , but the rebound is much faster due to the reversible mechanism, but asin a irreversible (suicidal) inhibitor, may "may" take longer for e2 to recover , again its boils down to bloodwork and adjustments according to dose increase/decrease etc,,
This is what I was referring to in the quick-shot post I posted before this. I think I pegged it right but didn't have the vocabulary to describe like you did. Asin = Irreversible and takes time to recover, Adex = works and returns quick. Likely why a lot of recommendations for highly aromatizable cycles to adex small dose after pins. Have you ever heard of this recommendation?
 

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Aromasin is the much more potent one that can bottom out your E2? I remember reading a bit about one of the AI that has the potential. @BBBG is correct though, I need to go to the drawing board and do some reading and study.
always appreciate people asking questions because the follow up discussion can help other people
 

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Hey all, here to read initially, learn also, then sit and wait for updates while I yell at the clouds and the GODDAMN KIDS ON MY BLOCK ON DIRT BiKES! Thanks OP for thinking of us geriatric lifters that just can't leave well enough alone 💪👍
 

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Hey all, here to read initially, learn also, then sit and wait for updates while I yell at the clouds and the GODDAMN KIDS ON MY BLOCK ON DIRT BiKES! Thanks OP for thinking of us geriatric lifters that just can't leave well enough alone 💪👍
Glad your with us and look forward the banter. Keeps those god damn kids off your lawn 🤣
 

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What are your go to peptides and aminos? Currently I am enjoying NAD+, GH, Melanotan 2, and B12 with L-Carnitine. Wanting to lose another 10 lbs but struggling and feeling like GLPs have done what they can. Still training 5 days a week, 3 with a trainer, and tracking macros at a deficit but the losses are slowwwww. Any success with SLU-PP-332?
 

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What are your go to peptides and aminos? Currently I am enjoying NAD+, GH, Melanotan 2, and B12 with L-Carnitine. Wanting to lose another 10 lbs but struggling and feeling like GLPs have done what they can. Still training 5 days a week, 3 with a trainer, and tracking macros at a deficit but the losses are slowwwww. Any success with SLU-PP-332?
Me personally? None of them, I'm still old school. The newest conceptual for lack of a better term item that I use is a blended Superdrol, 10mg of drol with 10mg of Cabergoline. If I wanted to drop 10lbs rapidly I'd personally use that superdrol blend plus possibly the ECA stack, Clen, and/or Mast. I'm very fortunate as my Dr was a trusted person to me, he told me what was what straight everytime. One of my first bloods when I requested extras like test and estrogen levels he told it to me straight overall after results came back regarding cholesterol, liver enzymes, etc - "Keep up the regimen".
 

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What are your go to peptides and aminos? Currently I am enjoying NAD+, GH, Melanotan 2, and B12 with L-Carnitine. Wanting to lose another 10 lbs but struggling and feeling like GLPs have done what they can. Still training 5 days a week, 3 with a trainer, and tracking macros at a deficit but the losses are slowwwww. Any success with SLU-PP-332?
i've been taking SLUPP @40 mg for a coupla months now and have noticed some increased vascularity, incresed rhr by 10 point, and its easier to maintain hr during cardio sessions which are 3x per week 40 minutes on stationary bike, and at or below 2k calories per day, i may be upping the SLUPP to 60 mg depending on recent bloodwork results due any day,, I eat at or below 100 g of carbs , but have been experimenting with carb cycling before and after workouts, but staying under 200 g carbs per day,,
 

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Im 35 turning 36, does that qualify as an older guy?

I posted a few threads when I originally joined this forum and got some good feedback. I've been trying to read and research as much as I possibly can, some things like adding a second compound are not as intuitive as I had thought!
Was thinking the same thing over here at 38 about joining the "old thread". 10 year younger wife with a 3 year old and 5 year old and raised by grandparents so relate to the older crowd. Working corporate professional and father so typically diet/training are not my first priority.
 

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Was thinking the same thing over here at 38 about joining the "old thread". 10 year younger wife with a 3 year old and 5 year old and raised by grandparents so relate to the older crowd. Working corporate professional and father so typically diet/training are not my first priority.
Frankly, this is a place for professionals, family men, and more established "gentleman"😜 to talk about health, hormones, physique and life. If you like us, hang out!!
 

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Frankly, this is a place for professionals, family men, and more established "gentleman"😜 to talk about health, hormones, physique and life. If you like us, hang out!!
My wife is 11 years younger. Not such a big deal at 51 but when she was 25 we got a few sideways looks 🤣
 
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