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Opti - HGH / Somatropin ++ AAS oils ++ AAS tabs ++ MISC.

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Looking to try GH for the first time. These gold tops definitely seem like the best bang for buck. However I dont plan on starting it until my bulk in October. Will it last that long if I order it now or should I wait?
 

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Looking to try GH for the first time. These gold tops definitely seem like the best bang for buck. However I dont plan on starting it until my bulk in October. Will it last that long if I order it now or should I wait?
To answer your question, lypholized powder will last years in the freezer or even the refrigerator. Why wait until your bulk in October though? GH takes time. If you’re only planning to add it to a 16-20 week AAS cycle, there’s not much of a point. Others might disagree with me, but that’s my opinion. Why not start GH low now, so that you can titrate up as you get near your bulk cycle. That will give you the opportunity to see how you respond to GH beforehand, and also the ability to run it at a higher dose during your cycle with less chance of unwanted side effects from going too high too fast.
 

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To answer your question, lypholized powder will last years in the freezer or even the refrigerator. Why wait until your bulk in October though? GH takes time. If you’re only planning to add it to a 16-20 week AAS cycle, there’s not much of a point. Others might disagree with me, but that’s my opinion. Why not start GH low now, so that you can titrate up as you get near your bulk cycle. That will give you the opportunity to see how you respond to GH beforehand, and also the ability to run it at a higher dose during your cycle with less chance of unwanted side effects from going too high too fast.
Like I said, i’m new to it so I guess I just figured it would work like any other compound. Im mid cutting blast right now. My plan was to finish this blast (i have about 12 weeks left) then cruise on my trt dose for the summer, let my body recover, then attempt to add GH to my bulking cycle. I’ve heard of people who run GH year round or at least for extended periods. I just didn’t know if there was as much benefit to using it in a calorie deficit. Especially if I started at a low dose such as 1 or 2 iu’s
 

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Like I said, i’m new to it so I guess I just figured it would work like any other compound. Im mid cutting blast right now. My plan was to finish this blast (i have about 12 weeks left) then cruise on my trt dose for the summer, let my body recover, then attempt to add GH to my bulking cycle. I’ve heard of people who run GH year round or at least for extended periods. I just didn’t know if there was as much benefit to using it in a calorie deficit. Especially if I started at a low dose such as 1 or 2 iu’s
I think more people use it in a calorie deficit than the people that use it to bulk. If that’s your goal, I think you’re going to be disappointed. HGH won’t add slabs of muscle. You’d have to run it high and typically in conjunction with insulin.

Unless you’re a pro, then you’re doing this for fun and to look good. I don’t like “cutting” and “bulking” and don’t like the +/- 500 calories cycles. Just stay at the same relative lean bodyfat % year round. It’s healthier and better for you long-term. Lower dosages of HGH (2-6 iu) are amazing with a good diet, at maintaining leanness while the anabolics and training add muscle.
 

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Unless you’re a pro, then you’re doing this for fun and to look good. I don’t like “cutting” and “bulking” and don’t like the +/- 500 calories cycles. Just stay at the same relative lean bodyfat % year round. It’s healthier and better for you long-term. Lower dosages of HGH (2-6 iu) are amazing with a good diet, at maintaining leanness while the anabolics and training add muscle.
Totally agree and be honest with yourself.

There are numerous people on the forums who like to portray themselves as top level competitors when in reality they are just hobbyists and basically a gym bro that wants to look good.

I mean if you have little to no experience, like being on stage never or once or twice in your life (at low level events and token divisions), why use the term 'offseason' and go through the bulking and cuts with all the drugs for cutting and bulking? For what? Its dumb IMO not mention like you said, its not healthy. Just keep the same weight year round and be in better health overall. Otherwise you are putting your health at risk to appear to be top level online when you know you aren't in reality. IMO people try to portray that fake image because they are trying to sell something.

TRT + is different than adding the shit like insulin, high doses of hgh, harsher drugs, diuretics etc... Many of us just want to be either at the high end of normal test or a little above while keeping/gaining strength and IMO you can look damn good doing that with minimal drugs.
 
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I think more people use it in a calorie deficit than the people that use it to bulk. If that’s your goal, I think you’re going to be disappointed. HGH won’t add slabs of muscle. You’d have to run it high and typically in conjunction with insulin.

Unless you’re a pro, then you’re doing this for fun and to look good. I don’t like “cutting” and “bulking” and don’t like the +/- 500 calories cycles. Just stay at the same relative lean bodyfat % year round. It’s healthier and better for you long-term. Lower dosages of HGH (2-6 iu) are amazing with a good diet, at maintaining leanness while the anabolics and training add muscle.
I really appreciate the insight. I definitely wasn’t expecting slabs of muscle. Ive done at least enough research to understand that’s not what HGH does. Im much more interested in the recovery/quality of life aspects that ive heard so much about. And I’m only really doing a “cutting” phase this one time because ive never been sub 16% bf. (Went from 18% to 8% within the last 3 months.) so now that I’ve properly dialed in my diet I want to maintain that level of leanness year round while the anabolics add muscle like you said. In hindsight I guess a “bulking cycle” was poor word choice on my part.
 

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I really appreciate the insight. I definitely wasn’t expecting slabs of muscle. Ive done at least enough research to understand that’s not what HGH does. Im much more interested in the recovery/quality of life aspects that ive heard so much about. And I’m only really doing a “cutting” phase this one time because ive never been sub 16% bf. (Went from 18% to 8% within the last 3 months.) so now that I’ve properly dialed in my diet I want to maintain that level of leanness year round while the anabolics add muscle like you said. In hindsight I guess a “bulking cycle” was poor word choice on my part.
Start the HGH now then. It’s a long-term investment.
 

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I just received my first order from Opti. In one of the bottles of Masteron I noticed a small, thin strand floating in the oil. It looks about half the length of an eye lash and is a light color. I was able to move the oil around to get it to stick to the side of the glass in order to take some photos. I don't think it's an eye lash but I don't know what it is. Also, the cap of this vial is loose, though that may not be related. My other items (another bottle of Mast and HGH Gold Tops) look good, but I will take another inspection of those later. I sent an email to opti with the description and photos so we'll see what he says.

I'm happy with everything else (communication, discreet box, well packaged) so hopefully Opti can resolve this. I won't lie, this is my first time ordering anything so it's disappointing to see.
 

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I just received my first order from Opti. In one of the bottles of Masteron I noticed a small, thin strand floating in the oil. It looks about half the length of an eye lash and is a light color. I was able to move the oil around to get it to stick to the side of the glass in order to take some photos. I don't think it's an eye lash but I don't know what it is. Also, the cap of this vial is loose, though that may not be related. My other items (another bottle of Mast and HGH Gold Tops) look good, but I will take another inspection of those later. I sent an email to opti with the description and photos so we'll see what he says.

I'm happy with everything else (communication, discreet box, well packaged) so hopefully Opti can resolve this. I won't lie, this is my first time ordering anything so it's disappointing to see.
Also shout out to @BBBG for the tip on the iPhone light, that's how I noticed it!
 

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I just received my first order from Opti. In one of the bottles of Masteron I noticed a small, thin strand floating in the oil. It looks about half the length of an eye lash and is a light color. I was able to move the oil around to get it to stick to the side of the glass in order to take some photos. I don't think it's an eye lash but I don't know what it is. Also, the cap of this vial is loose, though that may not be related. My other items (another bottle of Mast and HGH Gold Tops) look good, but I will take another inspection of those later. I sent an email to opti with the description and photos so we'll see what he says.

I'm happy with everything else (communication, discreet box, well packaged) so hopefully Opti can resolve this. I won't lie, this is my first time ordering anything so it's disappointing to see.
Upon further inspecting the 2nd bottle, there is also a small black strand floating in this one too. It's darker than the one in the other bottle and appears to be thinner. I also jiggled the bottle around and confirmed it is actually floating in the oil, it's not stuck on the glass or anything.

It's not as easy to see in the photos because I couldn't get it to stick to the side of the glass, in person it's very easy to see.

My second order which should arrive in a few days contains two more bottles of this... Wish I could cancel it but I guess I'll just have to inspect everything very closely.

FYI - opti responded quickly and told me he will take a look at the photos in the morning. I appreciate the quick response from him!
 

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I just received my first order from Opti. In one of the bottles of Masteron I noticed a small, thin strand floating in the oil. It looks about half the length of an eye lash and is a light color. I was able to move the oil around to get it to stick to the side of the glass in order to take some photos. I don't think it's an eye lash but I don't know what it is. Also, the cap of this vial is loose, though that may not be related. My other items (another bottle of Mast and HGH Gold Tops) look good, but I will take another inspection of those later. I sent an email to opti with the description and photos so we'll see what he says.

I'm happy with everything else (communication, discreet box, well packaged) so hopefully Opti can resolve this. I won't lie, this is my first time ordering anything so it's disappointing to see.
That looks like a clear shard. Almost like it crashed? Have you tried heating it up?
 

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How do you recommend I heat it up to check?
I'm not sure if that's what it is and the second group of pics looks different, but if that is what it is, you just have to put the vial in hot water or set it on a candle warmer or even on the heating plate of a coffee pot. Pick it up and shake it and swirl it every couple of minutes until everything is dissolved. I've been just running water through a coffee maker and it seems to be the perfect temp.
 

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I'm not sure if that's what it is and the second group of pics looks different, but if that is what it is, you just have to put the vial in hot water or set it on a candle warmer or even on the heating plate of a coffee pot. Pick it up and shake it and swirl it every couple of minutes until everything is dissolved. I've been just running water through a coffee maker and it seems to be the perfect temp.
Maybe I'll try that when I get home later. Or just wait to hear back from Opti.

And yes the strand in the 2nd vial looks different. Hopefully I'm not being too anal here but I have to imagine it's not the norm to have this stuff in the oil.
 

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Maybe I'll try that when I get home later. Or just wait to hear back from Opti.

And yes the strand in the 2nd vial looks different. Hopefully I'm not being too anal here but I have to imagine it's not the norm to have this stuff in the oil.
It's definitely not ok or the norm to have floaters in there. It can be common for them to crash. Hope you get it figured out.
 
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