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JamesDoe350

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what the difference in the two. i understand they have certain compounds in both, winny, primo, test, etc etc. but why cant i take superdrol, which i know they also have inj, and make it an injectable to try and spare my liver a little? is it because it wont hold? i heard that winny inj pip is nothing to joke with so is it a bb/ba ratio with pip making it not worth it? if i could spare my liver id run so many more orals. lol
 

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It doesn't spare it fully but it skips first pass which is a big deal apparently. I enjoy injectable orals very much. But I'm confused about your statement. You know they have Superdrol as an injectable but why can't you can't it..lol we don't know why you can't take it. It holds just fine given the right recipe. Quite a few orals are made into injectables and the recipes are available
 

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It doesn't spare it fully but it skips first pass which is a big deal apparently. I enjoy injectable orals very much. But I'm confused about your statement. You know they have Superdrol as an injectable but why can't you can't it..lol we don't know why you can't take it. It holds just fine given the right recipe. Quite a few orals are made into injectables and the recipes are available
maybe i didnt express myself correctly the first post, sorry.

all i want to know, is if injectable orals are just as good as injectable aas OR BETTER, why is there not a larger market for injectable orals.
ive only really seen monsterlabs having all the injectable orals. plus i havent seen recipes for injectable orals.
 

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You're mileage may vary brother but it IS less toxic. I personally can take more of the same compound injected than I can oral or even sublingual. The recipes are out there and you can actually ask a source what their recipe is and if they're nice enough they'll share it with you
 

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Thing is you’re still gonna need a test base even with injectable orals. Running a inj oral only cycle is similar to running a oral only cycle and isn’t recommended since most of those compounds dont aromatize (with the exception being dianabol with converts into methyl estradiol). They skip first pass but are still eventually going to hit the liver on the 2nd pass. So it might make it slightly less hepatotoxic but your super harsh stuff like superdrol, haloteston, etc is still gonna fuck you up pretty bad. Most if not all dont have an ester attached to them either so their half life is short and would require you to pin 2-3 times a day to have stable serum concentrations of the drug. Overall its just not very sustainable and thats probably why most people dont use them. They’re good in a PWO protocol but so are regular orals and dont require pinning so most people just go with the old tried and true.
 
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Thing is you’re still gonna need a test base even with injectable orals. Running a inj oral only cycle is similar to running a oral only cycle and isn’t recommended since most of those compounds dont aromatize (with the exception being dianabol with converts into methyl estradiol in the liver). They skip first pass but are still eventually going to hit the liver on the 2nd pass. So it might make it slightly less hepatotoxic but your super harsh stuff like superdrol, haloteston, etc is still gonna fuck you up pretty bad. Most if not all dont have an ester attached to them either so their half life is short and would require you to pin 2-3 times a day to have stable serum concentrations of the drug. Overall its just not very sustainable and thats probably why most people dont use them. They’re good in a PWO protocol but so are regular orals and dont require pinning so most people just go with the old tried and true.
great info. what im going to do is find the recipes and me and my buddy will run them together and he can take hard press and ill do inj and we will get blood done two weeks and see. i would never do a cycle with test. thanks for making sure i understood that. great info!
 

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Using the chemical formula and molarmass it would suggest to me that the molecular size of say methasterone(Superdrol) could even be used as a transdermal due to a lack of ester.

I haven't tried it but one could:
6ml of ethanol(vodka or everclear at 190/195 proof)
2ml of Benzyl alcohol
2ml of isopropyl myristate
2 grams of Superdrol raws.

Adding Pure 99.9% DMSO will allow more of it to be absorbed, but it will irritate the skin, so go easy with this stuff.

If it doesn't dissolve just add some more BA.

It's a worthwhile experiment.
 
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what the difference in the two. i understand they have certain compounds in both, winny, primo, test, etc etc. but why cant i take superdrol, which i know they also have inj, and make it an injectable to try and spare my liver a little? is it because it wont hold? i heard that winny inj pip is nothing to joke with so is it a bb/ba ratio with pip making it not worth it? if i could spare my liver id run so many more orals. lol
I think injectable superdrol goes through the second pass in the liver.
 
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