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prolactin and Deca

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Does anyone have any experience running a beginners test and deca cycle? I am wondering if 300 test and 100 deca sounds appropriate? I have never really ran a 19 nor compound before so would a cabergoline or pramipexole be required with this low of a dose?
 

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Does anyone have any experience running a beginners test and deca cycle? I am wondering if 300 test and 100 deca sounds appropriate? I have never really ran a 19 nor compound before so would a cabergoline or pramipexole be required with this low of a dose?
I ran 500 test/300 deca and had bloods done about 7 weeks in. Prolactin was BARELY out of normal reference range. Ymmv.
 

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Caber and prami are NEVER required and almost never needed. I've seen alot of bloodwork and it's incredibly rare to see Elevated prolactin on a 19-nor.

Just use npp instead of deca so that you can discontinue usage if you see any side effects arrise that you don't want to deal with.
 

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Caber and prami are NEVER required and almost never needed. I've seen alot of bloodwork and it's incredibly rare to see Elevated prolactin on a 19-nor.

Just use npp instead of deca so that you can discontinue usage if you see any side effects arrise that you don't want to deal with.
So, you're saying they're "never required" but "almost never needed"? Make up your mind. And just because you've seen "a lot of bloodwork" doesn't mean squat. Elevated prolactin on a 19-nor might be rare, but it's not impossible. Don't act like you've got all the answers just because you've seen a few test results.

I’ll side with you on the NPP suggestion though. Yeah, NPP does offer that advantage of a shorter half-life compared to Deca, so if side effects pop up, you can stop it and have it clear out of your system faster. It's all about managing risk, and NPP can give you more control in that regard.
 

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So, you're saying they're "never required" but "almost never needed"? Make up your mind. And just because you've seen "a lot of bloodwork" doesn't mean squat. Elevated prolactin on a 19-nor might be rare, but it's not impossible. Don't act like you've got all the answers just because you've seen a few test results.

I’ll side with you on the NPP suggestion though. Yeah, NPP does offer that advantage of a shorter half-life compared to Deca, so if side effects pop up, you can stop it and have it clear out of your system faster. It's all about managing risk, and NPP can give you more control in that regard.
Yes, never required meaning that nothing that we do is required. There are no rules in this game. Unless you have Parkinson disease or prolactinoma caber IS NEVER required. Just like using using nandrolone in a cycle is never required. Even using a testosterone base in a cycle is not required. That doesn't mean it's NEVER NEEDED in a contextual situation, or that it is the best option, or even a smart choice.

Yes it's not impossible that you could have elevated prolactin, nothing that could exist is impossible. However it's not likely. The majority of side effects that we attribute to "high prolactin" are due to estrogen and androgen ratios (gyno), and the direct effect of certain compounds on the ER and PR directly (low libido, ED, low drive). This is not to say that cabergoline would not alleviate these symptoms (low libido, ED, low drive), but that is not due to your prolactin levels. Rather it's due to dopamine receptor agonism increasing libido and sense of well being on its own.

Dopamine receptor agonists like cabergoline reduce the amount of prolactin being produced by the body. Does injecting a 19-nor derivative increase the amount of prolactin being produced by the body? If they did, than there would be a use case for cabergoline. We use it as community for the alleviation of the symptoms caused by 19-nor derivatives acting on the PR themselves.

I'm not acting like I have "all the answers", I'm giving an answer that might prevent someone from using an unnecessary drug with the potential for serious side effects. We treat caber and prami as safe ancillary drugs, however they do have the potential for harm and as such should be used smartly.

Nandrolone has been in human clinical use for decades and I have not yet heard of a doctor prescribing cabergoline as a necessary ancillary.
 
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