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Question about AI/PCT Sources
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AIPCT is international and sells Indian pharma. Unless the source specifically carries pharma (some do), then the stuff you’re getting from sources is UGL. They would purchase and cap the raws themselves.
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Well first of all aipctshop is a member here and on here as well. We’ve part of this community for a long time.
Some shops actually buy from us or other indian pharma companies then resell the products. And some buy raws out of China cap them and sell the items.
Ordering from an online Pharma is risky in that there are many scammers, people are afraid they won’t get their product or that the firm will steal their financial info (one well known indian pharma has been accused of clearing out bank accounts and taking all available funds on debit cards). We have been here for a long time on SST back to old reddit days for years on reddit with SST, and while not everyone likes us I don’t think there has ever been a question if we have scammed anyone and we have a lot of reviews over the years. There are also issues in some people do not trust Indian Companies, they question the quality. If you look up CIPLA or INTAS or similar you will see they are fortune 100 or similar companies world wide, major pharmacy providers and the prepare many of the worlds medicine and just rebrand it under other known international names and in the stores and on the shelves in teh USA and EU.
Some do not like shipping from overseas and there is always the risk of a seizure. We ship openly and legally. It is not an issue to ship our products to most hte countries we ship too. However there is a waiting period so if you are ordering from overseas please order in advance and have it on hand. If you MIGHT need it, the cost is cheap, so keep some on hand is my advice. Better to be over prepared and not need it then to find out you need it and not have it. And in the rare case that a item is held, for example we’ve had cialis held for questioning the yellow food coloring that was used by the manufacturer, we’ve had HCG held in the assumption it was fake and really HGH, we’ve had strange things held and brought into question and we 100% reship if items are held with a seizure letter but this is rarely rarely ever happens but it can happen. Customs is omnipotent the agent is having a bad day well hold everything and there is no recourse so we just reship.
Packages also can get lost, USPS is not the best service around. And if packages do not update in tracking in 30 days EMS allows a reship they deem that as lost packages. And we can reship that. Local domestic is usually faster and less issues as domestic mail I’m not totally sure but I do not hear that often about lost mail, some mis delivered mail yes but not lost.
Another complaint we hear a lot is shipping cost, shipping EMS is 25 USD currently. and can take 1-2 weeks average. We dno’t make money on shipping but it sure is not a low domestic price. So if you are ordering best to order some of all you might need to avoid finding out oh shit I need some Letro and have to order a whole new order for one item and have to pay shipping again.
FWIW we also are starting to sell European made phamra products in a new site coming out and you can ask for that listing if you liek for now.
I think the main difference is that the products we sell are made by registered and tested Pharmacy companies. We only sell that, we do not make up any of our own products we are a reseller. Some labs here and across the other boards will buy powders from china and cap them and when you are talking dosing of product to get to mg or mcg strength that is kind of hard to do accurately every time and safely. Caping powders is very different then making oils to inject. And the raws that labs get are not often tested by independent labs so you’re never quite sure of strength or purity. No matter what the labs say, no matter what the precautions or care they take, if they get bad raws or a bad batch then so be it they pass that along unkowningly. They are trusting the raw providers to provide quality product.
Currently CIPLA probably one the worlds largest firms has had three bad batches in a row of Raloxifene (Ralista) and they only find this out after production and when it goes into QC testing. So if CIPLA who has US FDA approved plants and EU GMP and similar certified plants can fail in production, and they test raws and production and more, it is not a guarantee that a raw provider is going to provide quality raws every time. Failing batches of medications is actually very common just not talked about that often but in production of medications it is very common actually. And this to me would raise questions of using untested raws.
Case in point a lab a few years ago that is NOT on here was selling accutane and when they were out of stock some of their customers came and bought from us, those people were taking a very high dose from this one source, using the products made by the labs they were taking half that amount. For many products a fluctuation in strength might not be a big deal but when you are talking about gyno and keeping your balls we feel it is kind of important.
Obviously I believe in using pharma even if it is Indian pharma for items that will help keep my hair (granted I’ve lost most my hair already at my age) but more importantly keep my balls and not get me gyno.
I know SoCo has very good reviews for their products that I’ve seen. And there are a lot of on line indian pharma shops out there to choose from if you don’t want to use us. But again I am a firm believer in using a shop that is in this community as the shops are responsive and here for a purpose and I believe in supporting the shops that support the forums. If you order from another online source I’m not sure we can post reviews negative here about them as they are not part of the community and I think reviews are only for sources who are here.
I hope I have given you some items to help you in your questions.
Some shops actually buy from us or other indian pharma companies then resell the products. And some buy raws out of China cap them and sell the items.
Ordering from an online Pharma is risky in that there are many scammers, people are afraid they won’t get their product or that the firm will steal their financial info (one well known indian pharma has been accused of clearing out bank accounts and taking all available funds on debit cards). We have been here for a long time on SST back to old reddit days for years on reddit with SST, and while not everyone likes us I don’t think there has ever been a question if we have scammed anyone and we have a lot of reviews over the years. There are also issues in some people do not trust Indian Companies, they question the quality. If you look up CIPLA or INTAS or similar you will see they are fortune 100 or similar companies world wide, major pharmacy providers and the prepare many of the worlds medicine and just rebrand it under other known international names and in the stores and on the shelves in teh USA and EU.
Some do not like shipping from overseas and there is always the risk of a seizure. We ship openly and legally. It is not an issue to ship our products to most hte countries we ship too. However there is a waiting period so if you are ordering from overseas please order in advance and have it on hand. If you MIGHT need it, the cost is cheap, so keep some on hand is my advice. Better to be over prepared and not need it then to find out you need it and not have it. And in the rare case that a item is held, for example we’ve had cialis held for questioning the yellow food coloring that was used by the manufacturer, we’ve had HCG held in the assumption it was fake and really HGH, we’ve had strange things held and brought into question and we 100% reship if items are held with a seizure letter but this is rarely rarely ever happens but it can happen. Customs is omnipotent the agent is having a bad day well hold everything and there is no recourse so we just reship.
Packages also can get lost, USPS is not the best service around. And if packages do not update in tracking in 30 days EMS allows a reship they deem that as lost packages. And we can reship that. Local domestic is usually faster and less issues as domestic mail I’m not totally sure but I do not hear that often about lost mail, some mis delivered mail yes but not lost.
Another complaint we hear a lot is shipping cost, shipping EMS is 25 USD currently. and can take 1-2 weeks average. We dno’t make money on shipping but it sure is not a low domestic price. So if you are ordering best to order some of all you might need to avoid finding out oh shit I need some Letro and have to order a whole new order for one item and have to pay shipping again.
FWIW we also are starting to sell European made phamra products in a new site coming out and you can ask for that listing if you liek for now.
I think the main difference is that the products we sell are made by registered and tested Pharmacy companies. We only sell that, we do not make up any of our own products we are a reseller. Some labs here and across the other boards will buy powders from china and cap them and when you are talking dosing of product to get to mg or mcg strength that is kind of hard to do accurately every time and safely. Caping powders is very different then making oils to inject. And the raws that labs get are not often tested by independent labs so you’re never quite sure of strength or purity. No matter what the labs say, no matter what the precautions or care they take, if they get bad raws or a bad batch then so be it they pass that along unkowningly. They are trusting the raw providers to provide quality product.
Currently CIPLA probably one the worlds largest firms has had three bad batches in a row of Raloxifene (Ralista) and they only find this out after production and when it goes into QC testing. So if CIPLA who has US FDA approved plants and EU GMP and similar certified plants can fail in production, and they test raws and production and more, it is not a guarantee that a raw provider is going to provide quality raws every time. Failing batches of medications is actually very common just not talked about that often but in production of medications it is very common actually. And this to me would raise questions of using untested raws.
Case in point a lab a few years ago that is NOT on here was selling accutane and when they were out of stock some of their customers came and bought from us, those people were taking a very high dose from this one source, using the products made by the labs they were taking half that amount. For many products a fluctuation in strength might not be a big deal but when you are talking about gyno and keeping your balls we feel it is kind of important.
Obviously I believe in using pharma even if it is Indian pharma for items that will help keep my hair (granted I’ve lost most my hair already at my age) but more importantly keep my balls and not get me gyno.
I know SoCo has very good reviews for their products that I’ve seen. And there are a lot of on line indian pharma shops out there to choose from if you don’t want to use us. But again I am a firm believer in using a shop that is in this community as the shops are responsive and here for a purpose and I believe in supporting the shops that support the forums. If you order from another online source I’m not sure we can post reviews negative here about them as they are not part of the community and I think reviews are only for sources who are here.
I hope I have given you some items to help you in your questions.
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