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Road to NPC Muscle Beach Classic off season to stage 2025

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No im 41 about to be 42 lol I’m old no not an end of the cycle . Just take a week break to rest and then I do another 8 weeks hardcore
We aren't too far apart in age. I misunderstood what you were saying.

Totally agree with @CountryGains and @mmaphdmba with taking a week off here and there to recharge, rest and allow a full recovery.

For me it helps with overcoming nagging, small injuries as well so they don't turn into more serious injuries.
 

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It’s definitely worthwhile taking a week off every now and then. You’ll make more progress in the long run.
Dorian Yates was known for utilizing rest and recovery as a big part of his training regimen.

I too recommend taking a break from the tren. You can grow in the offseason just fine without it. I’d save it for when you get closer to the show and are peeling away the bloat and puff to reveal the newly gained muscle growth
Yes Dorian Yates is a bodybuilder I truly admire for his knowledge and wisdom concerning bodybuilding.
 

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It’s definitely worthwhile taking a week off every now and then. You’ll make more progress in the long run.
Dorian Yates was known for utilizing rest and recovery as a big part of his training regimen.

I too recommend taking a break from the tren. You can grow in the offseason just fine without it. I’d save it for when you get closer to the show and are peeling away the bloat and puff to reveal the newly gained muscle growth.
Yes after this week I’ll remove the tren . And then a week off
 

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every 6 to 8 weeks.

When making a program, there are 3 cycles to utilize - micro, meso, macro. Micro is like 1-2 weeks at a time. Meso is like 6-10 weeks at a time, and macro is 6-12 months at a time. You can plan a small deload or rest week after each meso (or can make them 12 weeks long, with a deload in the middle and again as week 13 before the next meso). During the training phase, you can periodize your training so you're not going to near failure always. Some weeks you can go higher reps at 80% max, and others you go 90% max lower reps and grow. Several different ways to periodize too: linear, undular, etc.

Takes time to learn, but at our age once you start feeling slightly down, take a week at a lower weight to back off a bit, then go back hard. My wife is the same age, and we've learned that every 4 weeks is good for her to take a deload week to prevent overtraining which comes with total body soreness, poor sleep, etc.

(to be clear, it's quite nice to see you're listening and engaging now. No matter how much shit I (or others) give you, there's an element of desire to see someone do awesome, and seems like we all want that for you too)
Yes it is nice to engage and learn . I want to actually win this show and come in looking like an intense modern freakier version of Nubret . So I have to do things intelligently this time .
 

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We aren't too far apart in age. I misunderstood what you were saying.

Totally agree with @CountryGains and @mmaphdmba with taking a week off here and there to recharge, rest and allow a full recovery.

For me it helps with overcoming nagging, small injuries as well so they don't turn into more serious injuries.
Yes I believe all the advice they gave me is sound and appropriate lol
 

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every 6 to 8 weeks.

When making a program, there are 3 cycles to utilize - micro, meso, macro. Micro is like 1-2 weeks at a time. Meso is like 6-10 weeks at a time, and macro is 6-12 months at a time. You can plan a small deload or rest week after each meso (or can make them 12 weeks long, with a deload in the middle and again as week 13 before the next meso). During the training phase, you can periodize your training so you're not going to near failure always. Some weeks you can go higher reps at 80% max, and others you go 90% max lower reps and grow. Several different ways to periodize too: linear, undular, etc.

Takes time to learn, but at our age once you start feeling slightly down, take a week at a lower weight to back off a bit, then go back hard. My wife is the same age, and we've learned that every 4 weeks is good for her to take a deload week to prevent overtraining which comes with total body soreness, poor sleep, etc.

(to be clear, it's quite nice to see you're listening and engaging now. No matter how much shit I (or others) give you, there's an element of desire to see someone do awesome, and seems like we all want that for you too)
This is phenomenal advice. Once I understood modern training periodization I started making way more progress with WAY LESS fatigue.

I do highly recommend lowering volume but maintaining intensity for periods of time to give your joints and tendons a chance to recover.

Lowering volume can also really help with fatigue. Personally I started doing way less "working sets" but pushing closer to true failure. I've been into the "stimulating reps" model lately and it's definitely been productive.

Previously I did more Rennassaince Periodization style of higher volume training. I definitely saw progress but I always had more fatigue.
 

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This is phenomenal advice. Once I understood modern training periodization I started making way more progress with WAY LESS fatigue.

I do highly recommend lowering volume but maintaining intensity for periods of time to give your joints and tendons a chance to recover.

Lowering volume can also really help with fatigue. Personally I started doing way less "working sets" but pushing closer to true failure. I've been into the "stimulating reps" model lately and it's definitely been productive.

Previously I did more Rennassaince Periodization style of higher volume training. I definitely saw progress but I always had more fatigue.
Yes it is textbook exercise science advice much needed
 

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What causes the exhaustion or lethargy from tren ? Is it sleep deprivation?
 

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What causes the exhaustion or lethargy from tren ? Is it sleep deprivation?
Sleep-related and Tren is like the concrete block on the accelerator pedal for the CNS, specifically the sympathetic portion. It puts your body in a constant heightened state of fight-or-flight, which is exhausting.

Edit: Fuck it. Lord don’t like me.
 
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I'm currently using 35mg a week of tren, 5mg everyday, and not really feeling the negatives yet. Maybe when I push up to bigger doses like 10mg a day haha.
 

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I'm currently using 35mg a week of tren, 5mg everyday, and not really feeling the negatives yet. Maybe when I push up to bigger doses like 10mg a day haha.
How long have you been doing that protocol
 

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How long have you been doing that protocol
20 days. Everyday injections of:
40mg testosterone e/c blend (20mg/20mg)
40mg masteron e
30mg primo e
5mg tren ace

Currently I'm 9 weeks out. Tomorrow I start a SLIGHTLY higher dose of ROUGHLY:
65mg testosterone
45mg masteron
35mg primo
6mg tren ace.

I'll do this for 20 days and then slightly increase the dose again.
 

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20 days. Everyday injections of:
40mg testosterone e/c blend (20mg/20mg)
40mg masteron e
30mg primo e
5mg tren ace

Currently I'm 9 weeks out. Tomorrow I start a SLIGHTLY higher dose of ROUGHLY:
65mg testosterone
45mg masteron
35mg primo
6mg tren ace.

I'll do this for 20 days and then slightly increase the dose again.
I see interesting stuff
 

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20 days. Everyday injections of:
40mg testosterone e/c blend (20mg/20mg)
40mg masteron e
30mg primo e
5mg tren ace

Currently I'm 9 weeks out. Tomorrow I start a SLIGHTLY higher dose of ROUGHLY:
65mg testosterone
45mg masteron
35mg primo
6mg tren ace.

I'll do this for 20 days and then slightly increase the dose again.
I should also add that my protocol includes:

1.5mg mots-c a day
500mcg retatrutide a day
200mcg ipam/cjc pre fasted cardio
250mcg slu pre fasted cardio and with each meal, 6x a day.
25mg ephedrine hcl pre cardio
5mg yohimbine hcl pre cardio
100mg caffeine pre cardio
 

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How are u feeling
I feel great. Dropping body fat faster than ever before and, eating 2200 calories on my RFL days (really fuckin low/rapid fat loss) and 3200 calories a day on my highest days. I'm also only doing 30 minutes of brisk walking for my cardio which is a huge change over my last few preps.
 

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I feel great. Dropping body fat faster than ever before and, eating 2200 calories on my RFL days (really fuckin low/rapid fat loss) and 3200 calories a day on my highest days. I'm also only doing 30 minutes of brisk walking for my cardio which is a huge change over my last few preps.
Thank you for sharing this with me . I know u will do well .
 

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Thank you for sharing this with me . I know u will do well .
Thank you brother. I hope so. I'm trying to see you at nationals this year!

But really, I'm not hopeful at the moment. I'm dealing with some serious nerve damage in my left delt/rear delt. I've been trying my best to train around it but my left hand grip is in the toilet and I can barely fire my rear delt and delt when I pose and lift.

Right now I'm experimenting with spot injecting BPC/tb500/ghk-cu. So far it SEEMS to be helping.
 

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Thank you brother. I hope so. I'm trying to see you at nationals this year!

But really, I'm not hopeful at the moment. I'm dealing with some serious nerve damage in my left delt/rear delt. I've been trying my best to train around it but my left hand grip is in the toilet and I can barely fire my rear delt and delt when I pose and lift.

Right now I'm experimenting with spot injecting BPC/tb500/ghk-cu. So far it SEEMS to be helping.
That sucks ! Injuries really blow especially when you mean business . I hope the peptides heal it .
 

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Thank you brother. I hope so. I'm trying to see you at nationals this year!

But really, I'm not hopeful at the moment. I'm dealing with some serious nerve damage in my left delt/rear delt. I've been trying my best to train around it but my left hand grip is in the toilet and I can barely fire my rear delt and delt when I pose and lift.

Right now I'm experimenting with spot injecting BPC/tb500/ghk-cu. So far it SEEMS to be helping.
But don’t become doubtful. Remain hopeful that you will overcome it and kill it at nationals !
 
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