[Source] Apexa Labs - Canadian Domestic

[EnhancedGrappler]

@fullofmuscle said in [Source]Apexa Labs - Canadian Domestic:

@apexalab Why make implications? Because any source with half a brain would make their testing results public to ensure confidence from buyers.
So where are all the testing results then? And I’m not talking about bullshit lab reports from your raw source like the one you posted for primo.
The only legitimate test results I’m seeing are from Jano in 2017.
The only user submitted results I see are the ones 20 days ago.
You have some user submitted blood work that shows your test actually contains test. Great. That’s the only take away from blood work.

So where’s all the other testing?

I’m just going to interject in the interest of making sure tone doesn’t get unproductive or hostile. The single batch customer test results that were posted for @apexalab are not good. He acknowledges that they’re not good and has some ideas as to what may have gone wrong. He’s promised to send in a bunch of samples to @Janoshik now, hopefully of finished products, and he plans to post them here. Ultimately given the circumstances the only real way to move forward is to allow for the source to submit his samples and bring back the results.

You’re still free to comment and I encourage any attempts at productive conversation, but I just want to make sure everyone is being respectful with each other here.

 

[buffbro1]

Just received an order and Apexa’s stuff is g2g as always. Pins are super smooth even with 30G slin pins. I’ll be getting my yearly bloods done in a couple of months and will post the results but based on past work, his Test has always been on point. He’s always sent extra goodies (sometimes extra vial or two, sometimes pills) for most of my orders and has always gone above and beyond if there’s a mistake in an order.

 

[apexalab]

@fullofmuscle said in [Source]Apexa Labs - Canadian Domestic:

@apexalab Why make implications? Because any source with half a brain would make their testing results public to ensure confidence from buyers.
So where are all the testing results then?

Since you pivot to a new allegation every time I explain away your previous allegations, this will be the last time I respond to your questions. I consider them to be allegations because I honestly think you’re going beyond general inquisitiveness and accountability, and your statements are quite suggestive of wrongdoing on my part (beyond what I’ve already accepted is the fault of Apexa). I’ve also been very thorough in my explanations, and considering the nature of this business, I have been as transparent as I can be publicly. I think it’s time to move on from this, as it’s unproductive.

Obviously I should be accountable, as any source should be, but I feel that 6 years of sourcing without a single scam, shill, or fake product should earn me some measure of trust when I make simple declarative statements. I shouldn’t have to explain that I have someone that uses their work UPLC to test for us under the condition that I never share them - he’s understandably concerned about his employer finding out. Obviously, I’d never put him at risk with any identifying info, but I could imagine his entire career could be destroyed if the community he works in ever found out he was testing illegal substances for an underground drug lab. I’m fairly certain that I could Photoshop the charts to be unidentifiable (although I don’t know if anything in the actual charts would allow for some way to identify the specific machine, or maybe even just its brand and model), but I gave my word that no one but my partner and I would ever see them, and I don’t go back on my word, even if it would benefit me to do so.

Even after all of this, I would love to win you back as a customer (for the things you can’t make yourself). I hope that you can be objective enough to see our earnest attempt at continuous improvement, and delivering a high-quality product.

 

[fullofmuscle]

@apexalab The new ‘allegations’ are based off things that YOU are saying. You say you are for being 100% transparent but then also say you have super top secret testing that only YOU are allowed to see? LOL. That doesn’t mean shit to the community or provide any comfort to people buying your product.
Also with the top secret testing of your raw materials, shouldn’t you be aware of the exact purity’s of all your raws? Is the fact that all 3 tested oils came back under dosed just another ‘oppsy’ like your massively overdosed Tbol?
Do you see how there are holes in the things you say?

Anyway I look forward to seeing the results from the samples you sent to jano
And what was the number of samples sent? The community should know and maybe @Janoshik can confirm the number. All sample results should be posted, not just the one that come back good. Full transparency right?

 

[shreddymurphy]

@apexalab is singulair available at all?

 

[apexalab]

@shreddymurphy said in [Source]Apexa Labs - Canadian Domestic:

@apexalab is singulair available at all?

Sorry, we do not carry it at this time. Cardarine is quite good though, and if you’re using it to combat Tren’s negative effects, I find this much more effective.

 

[apexalab]

Regarding testing:

I have all results back from Janos (all samples were sent to him labelled only by number), and have discussed results with him, as well as the raws supplier.

1. Several samples from several different orders indicate that the Proviron is indeed Anavar.

Labelled Proviron:
https://janoshik.com/tests/9735-AAS_raw_powder_"4"_XSQIK8AFV39Y

Labelled Anavar:
https://janoshik.com/tests/9737-AAS_raw_powder_"6"_YLKCN6PQF8QH

Labelled Anavar:
https://janoshik.com/tests/9739-AAS_raw_powder_"8"_KJKH16SKQGNZ

Labelled Proviron:
https://janoshik.com/tests/9740-AAS_raw_powder_"9"_3URF9VZ6X1S5

1. This Proviron comes from the largest supplier online, and from the same wholesaler that most of the smaller raws retailers buy from. The raw provider has informed me that the warehouse staff was putting Anavar in place of Proviron (I have this documented). This was three different orders over several months, so I’ll let you guys decide if I were singled out for some reason, or if that means every vendor has been getting var in place of proviron. The price for the raws are the same, so bait and switch for extra profit doesn’t make sense. My Primo from them is also good (as recently independently tested), so this further indicates a low likelihood of switching products simply to boost profit.
2. Neither Janos, nor myself, can explain why there were different melting points for the compounds labelled Anavar and the compounds labelled Proviron. Janos suggested that different impurities can affect melting points, which is absolutely true, however, in my admittedly limited experience, I have never seen it have such a drastic effect. Since I have nothing more than a few University-level organic chem courses, I asked him if it were possible that the two compounds were synthesized in different ways, garnering different physical characteristics in the same output compound, but he declined to comment. It bothers me not knowing, and that not everything adds up here, but I’m just going to continue to do more external testing (my hookup for local testing hasn’t been viable since COVID hit, so it will all be third party).
3. Mast E dosing accuracy - Finished Mast E comes out at 0.xx% difference from the raw assay. I’m happy with that, but we are going to adjust recipes to account for raw potency.

Raw:
https://janoshik.com/tests/9732-AAS_raw_powder_"1"_HJVBBZSAYGN5

Finished:
https://janoshik.com/tests/9766-AAS_oil_"10"_459ZWVE3YTHJ

1. Capsule dosing accuracy - This was supposed to be Proviron (you can see that I did quite a few tests on it to be 100% sure), but of course it was Anavar. I even impressed myself with the dosing being 0.05mg off, but I’ll admit that there’s some chance involved to get it that ridiculously accurate, haha!

Finished:
https://janoshik.com/tests/9742-AAS_capsule_"11"_NHZMNN9LC1HH

The raws provider indicated that they did not have Proviron available at this time, but should by March. I obviously won’t be selling any Proviron until then, and will be testing it first given what I know now.

Also, I will be sending a lot of finished products in for testing very soon - I want to be confident in what I am selling, and this situation has revealed an inexplicable weakness in using physical characteristics and melting point tests as a compound verification strategy.

 

[apexalab]

For clarity’s sake, here are samples 2 and 7; 3 was an unrelated (to AAS) compound.

2 - Tren E
https://janoshik.com/tests/9733-AAS_raw_powder_"2"_GSSJTP3R2J9V

7 - Tren A
https://janoshik.com/tests/9738-AAS_raw_powder_"7"_9D2R49MIKSDS

 

[apexalab]

Here’s some recent bloodwork that a customer had done with several different hGH products on the market. I’m very happy to see that the work I did testing the many sources around are keeping us ahead of the competition, and crushing the Pharma product!

https://steroidsourcetalk.me/topic/4497/source-apexa-labs-canadian-domestic/121

 

[apexalab]

Sale Items:​

• Test Prop - $35
• Anavar 10mg - $60

New Items:​

• Sustanon 250 - $55

Reduced Prices:​

• hGH 100iu - $275 >>> $250

Coming Soon:​

• Trestolone (MENT)
• Tren Base
• LGD-4033
• Injectable PWO

 

[EnhancedGrappler]

@apexalab has advised us that he is currently ill and as such you might expect some gaps in communication. If any issues arise feel free to contact the moderators but for now we ask for patience if you cannot get an immediate hold of the source.

 

[captainsleep]

Any updates on how apexa is doing? Can’t wait to start planning my next blast.

I’ve been using Apexa for years. Amazing gear and amazing customer service. Very happy and satisfied. Couldnt ask for any better.

 

[EnhancedGrappler]

@captainsleep said in [Source]Apexa Labs - Canadian Domestic:

Any updates on how apexa is doing? Can’t wait to start planning my next blast.

I’ve been using Apexa for years. Amazing gear and amazing customer service. Very happy and satisfied. Couldnt ask for any better.

The administrator team has not received any updates at this time but will do so once able.

 

[Buckwyld1986]

I emailed him a few days ago and haven’t heard back from him either, I hope he’s doing ok.

 

[Buckwyld1986]

Still no emails back… I’m in a pinch and may need to try someone else I guess. I’ve been a faithful Apexa buyer ever since Ninja stopped selling on the SST boards, if anyone remembers how far that goes back.

There’s a few good boards here but he’s been so solid for years.

 

[EnhancedGrappler]

@Buckwyld1986 said in [Source]Apexa Labs - Canadian Domestic:

Still no emails back… I’m in a pinch and may need to try someone else I guess. I’ve been a faithful Apexa buyer ever since Ninja stopped selling on the SST boards, if anyone remembers how far that goes back.

There’s a few good boards here but he’s been so solid for years.

He did say that his absence was somewhat indefinite., he was unsure as to when he would be able to return after having to urgently take a pause. If we receive any update we’ll keep you informed but we’re hoping he’s back soon.

 

[captainsleep]

@Buckwyld1986

Yeah same here man. I’ll have to try someone else too.

hope he gets better and comes back !

 

[Gettingolder]

I am also a happy apexa customer and a lot of my buds are too. I have made alternate arrangements while he is away and my buds will also until he returns here and its business as usual again. Lots of dealings with him great guy great products and great service. Currently happy with who I am using in the mean time and my buds will probably be also once they order and try the gear out. Smooth like silk and not loaded with EO and or Guaiacol you know that shit made basically from creosote fuck getting systemic inflammation from the toxic shit some labs use to make regular everyday compounds.

 

[FullMetal]

Was there somewhere apexa mentioned his downtime? I’ve used 3/4 of Canadian sources in the past and he’s definitely my go to. Does anyone have information on when he’ll be back? It’s an urgency for raloxifene so I most likely will not be able to wait for him to come back though haha

 

[EnhancedGrappler]

@FullMetal We have no ETA on his return. Given the circumstances we’re going to wait patiently but we have not received an update since he let us know he’d be gone for a minute.

In the meantime as far as Raloxifene goes I believe our other Canadian sources do offer that product and I would encourage you to inquire with them, should it be an emergency.