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Do you think it's safe for finish this vial, or better to put it in garbage?
I dno man it’s test; we’re finished injectibles ever tested before they switched brand? Tested raws but never finish oils; in the period they went to shipping PPL in the dark vials with my blood work at 60% to prior; maybe I grew a lot, maybe I’m full of shit or an idiot. But hey I read other post on meso and some were just asking for store credit.
Whether or not “PPL is DO who is Dash” doesn’t matter and would often details threads. People don’t homebrew for practical reasons; untested oils with possibly harsh solvents and batch to batch dose variation if you believe my and other blood work; if not get your own and compare against pharma; if your skepticism and frugality are true right mix you’ll find I’m an idiot or onto something and we will both learn. I found a disparity in bloods when their forum opinion soured; and in inflammatory markers when I started gettting delays followed by INT finished oils in PPL boxes. So many finished oil threads become spam noise and insults talking about raws and domestic oils; and I don’t know if it’s misdirection from shills or if people just can’t follow thread topics at meso.
eg Im getting 3.5x with test at 140mg bloodwork shows 488. Any labs that tested at 98% 140 puts me at 700, 185 around 1000, 190-210 at 1200 consistently. I actually overfilled and went deep into lean muscle so arguably over 140 for 488.
My experience suits others experience with 60-70% dose/blood- work on the the typical intl finished injectible. They will consistently have threads detailed to compared to accurately dosed ugl or pharma and then allude Dashes/PPL/Brewly raws or domestics.
That’s a pretty common theme and nobody ever addresses their underdosed INTL finished oils; I read one where PPL accused some forum reverse scamming for 150 store credit in test.
If the operation was that big and successful and not reseller with questionable quality; it makes one wonder why other sources don’t carry themselves like that… . Their telegram has many waiting on stuff, younger users, rec users and trans customers buying oestroge.
Atm bg for pharma; Qsc for peptides, every lab resells their glp-1’s due to cost/purity or would need some whack compounding setup.
Bg for peps quick. I can say pct24x7 isn’t Dash/PPL/Brewly based on the way feedback from customers who noticed common themes.
Bg is his own person. Honestly just stay clear on Chinese raw resellers who sell untested finished product but build rep on the former; it’s a common strategy intentional or otherwise to gain trust via raws that doesn’t translate to quality finished oils.
Trying to be real here; you’re in a position where you’re pressuring yourself
a) an unquantifiable risk (that vial) that could be safe; tiny chance it isn’t and your screwed…massive chance you’ll be fine however
or
b) a very quantifiable risk; I’m a shill you dump the oil and lose out like 60 bucks.
You foolishly get influenced by other posters like me and go back to DO.
A isn’t always a reversible risk whilst B is; assume I’m a shill and I’d still choose B and revert to A if proven otherwise.
Whether or not “PPL is DO who is Dash” doesn’t matter and would often details threads. People don’t homebrew for practical reasons; untested oils with possibly harsh solvents and batch to batch dose variation if you believe my and other blood work; if not get your own and compare against pharma; if your skepticism and frugality are true right mix you’ll find I’m an idiot or onto something and we will both learn. I found a disparity in bloods when their forum opinion soured; and in inflammatory markers when I started gettting delays followed by INT finished oils in PPL boxes. So many finished oil threads become spam noise and insults talking about raws and domestic oils; and I don’t know if it’s misdirection from shills or if people just can’t follow thread topics at meso.
eg Im getting 3.5x with test at 140mg bloodwork shows 488. Any labs that tested at 98% 140 puts me at 700, 185 around 1000, 190-210 at 1200 consistently. I actually overfilled and went deep into lean muscle so arguably over 140 for 488.
My experience suits others experience with 60-70% dose/blood- work on the the typical intl finished injectible. They will consistently have threads detailed to compared to accurately dosed ugl or pharma and then allude Dashes/PPL/Brewly raws or domestics.
That’s a pretty common theme and nobody ever addresses their underdosed INTL finished oils; I read one where PPL accused some forum reverse scamming for 150 store credit in test.
If the operation was that big and successful and not reseller with questionable quality; it makes one wonder why other sources don’t carry themselves like that… . Their telegram has many waiting on stuff, younger users, rec users and trans customers buying oestroge.
Atm bg for pharma; Qsc for peptides, every lab resells their glp-1’s due to cost/purity or would need some whack compounding setup.
Bg for peps quick. I can say pct24x7 isn’t Dash/PPL/Brewly based on the way feedback from customers who noticed common themes.
Bg is his own person. Honestly just stay clear on Chinese raw resellers who sell untested finished product but build rep on the former; it’s a common strategy intentional or otherwise to gain trust via raws that doesn’t translate to quality finished oils.
Trying to be real here; you’re in a position where you’re pressuring yourself
a) an unquantifiable risk (that vial) that could be safe; tiny chance it isn’t and your screwed…massive chance you’ll be fine however
or
b) a very quantifiable risk; I’m a shill you dump the oil and lose out like 60 bucks.
You foolishly get influenced by other posters like me and go back to DO.
A isn’t always a reversible risk whilst B is; assume I’m a shill and I’d still choose B and revert to A if proven otherwise.
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'Hello and welcome to last week' moment for me. I've ordered from DO 3 times over the past 2 years and no problems with domestic or Turkish pharma deliveries. Quality has been fine, corroborated by regular bloodwork but not lab testing of actual product. The test C (recently labeled from TCL) seems to be dosed a bit weak compared with the Empower stuff I get from my TRT doc, but it's about 1/3 the cost and easy to just adjust dosage up ~30% to maintain the levels I want. I haven't checked in here for a while, as I was satisfied with the source and not shopping for a new one.
I placed an order on 11/29/2023 and ran the funds transfer as usual. Neven an issue previously aside from waiting a few days for an email response, so I got wrapped up with other things and didn't think about it. With holidays and mail delays, I wasn't expecting fast shipping.
12/26 I emailed them asking for status
12/27 I got a response asking for order #etc
12/27 I responded with the requested information
12/27 I got a response asking for payment confirmation
12/28 I sent a pdf copy of the funds transfer confirmation
12/28 I got a response saying they were looking into it
1/5 (a few minutes ago) I sent a request asking for an update and the email bounced: "The response from the remote server was: 550 5.1.1 <[email protected]>: Recipient address rejected: Address is not configured to receive emails"
Not sure why it would take a solid week to confirm payment since I sent transaction ID and full documentation of the processed transfer, but not it looks like their email is disabled so I guess I'm finding a new source and washing my hands of $1500+ USD I just sent to a Chinese bank with no recourse. Clearly I could've saved myself some money, delay and frustration checking here first, even though I thought the source was reliable. Lesson learned, hope someone else can save themselves some trouble by reading this.
I placed an order on 11/29/2023 and ran the funds transfer as usual. Neven an issue previously aside from waiting a few days for an email response, so I got wrapped up with other things and didn't think about it. With holidays and mail delays, I wasn't expecting fast shipping.
12/26 I emailed them asking for status
12/27 I got a response asking for order #etc
12/27 I responded with the requested information
12/27 I got a response asking for payment confirmation
12/28 I sent a pdf copy of the funds transfer confirmation
12/28 I got a response saying they were looking into it
1/5 (a few minutes ago) I sent a request asking for an update and the email bounced: "The response from the remote server was: 550 5.1.1 <[email protected]>: Recipient address rejected: Address is not configured to receive emails"
Not sure why it would take a solid week to confirm payment since I sent transaction ID and full documentation of the processed transfer, but not it looks like their email is disabled so I guess I'm finding a new source and washing my hands of $1500+ USD I just sent to a Chinese bank with no recourse. Clearly I could've saved myself some money, delay and frustration checking here first, even though I thought the source was reliable. Lesson learned, hope someone else can save themselves some trouble by reading this.
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