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Switching from MAST E to Primo E mid cycle

nicksampson

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8 weeks into a 300 test C cycle (injecting EOD)
HCG 500 IU per week (will possibly up dosage)
Tirzeptide 12.5mg
Glutathione 100-200mg per week

First cycle was 300mg test a week (bulk), had to take AI often as I gained BF. Took the bulk too far, though went well, and I had PCTed.
This current cycle I am cutting, and started with no PEDs except tirzeptide which I have been on for about 5 months. Then 8 weeks ago I added 300mg of test C due to muscle loss finally Added MAST E 5 weeks into my cycle due to watery look, started off at 100mg a week and titrated to 300 mg this last week. I have experienced significant hair loss which I exptected (though not to this extent) and had deployed RU/Duasteride/oral min (Have been on finasteride long term and switched to dutasteride recently due to progressing MPB, though I understand these will not prevent hairloss from angorogenic substances). Also noticed my prostate might have been enlarged as I can feel it slightly and frequent urination. I noticed I still feel extremity bloated, even when dialing in diet, drinking enough water etc. I should have listen to others as I am at a pretty high BF percentasge around 25-30 percent and not used masteron as I understand the effects are not noticable typically until you are at a much lower BF. I have been taking AI (Arimidex) and have noticed a much dryer look though have to redose often due to high aromitization. I have primo E currently as well which I planned to use in my next bulk though was considering switching this cycle for both E2 control and a dryer look.

Both masteron and primo were sourced from Kits4less. I tested the masteron with roidtests and It resulted as test prop though I understand these tests can be inaccurate.

I have gotten labs twice during this cycle
Week 4
Prior to AI usage my E2 was 113 pg/ml (300 test)
Test >1500
No other abnormal results
Week 7
-E2 after 1mg arimidex (taken 24 hours prior to lab draw) was 24 pg/ml
-Lipids are slightly out of range as expected
-Calcium was 11.1 mg/dL (8.7-10.2 reference range)
-prolactin/progesterone were both within in normal limits
Week 8
Got an E2 only blood draw this week to see how long the AI would last and my current E2 level is 60 pg/ml (last AI usage was exactly one week ago)
22 yrs old
6’1
225 LB

Yes I know I am a idiot for this whole cycle, and sorry for any typos
 
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BBBG

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Just stop. You’re all over the place.

Lose the bf. You don’t need PEDs.

You won’t lose muscle mass as long as you eat enough protein and continue to train hard with heavy weight (80-85% your 1RM)

You’re trying to take shortcuts and that’s what is biting you in the ass.
 

nicksampson

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PCT off?
Just stop. You’re all over the place.

Lose the bf. You don’t need PEDs.

You won’t lose muscle mass as long as you eat enough protein and continue to train hard with heavy weight (80-85% your 1RM)

You’re trying to take shortcuts and that’s what is biting you in the ass.
 

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I wrote a long detailed response. Deleted it. You're not going to listen. This isn't a Capt America movie where he gets injected with magic juice and suddenly is in shape. Sorry if I sound like a dick.
 

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I wrote a long detailed response. Deleted it. You're not going to listen. This isn't a Capt America movie where he gets injected with magic juice and suddenly is in shape. Sorry if I sound like a dick.
i will listen. I understand cutting is still energy in vs out and gear isnt going to change that but rather just preserve muscle. i am assuming pcting off will be best? or running just test with AI until i blast on a bulk?
 

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i will listen. I understand cutting is still energy in vs out and gear isnt going to change that but rather just preserve muscle. i am assuming pcting off will be best? or running just test with AI until i blast on a bulk?
PCT and leave the vials alone.

Lose fat

Train harder

Learn
 

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Yes what he said. Lose the weight. Get down to below 15%. Stay away from quick fixes. Slow wins the race. You're young. Get a few years in natural. You can do this.
 

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Aren’t those things completely unreliable 😂😂 this is dumb. People have sent stuff out to actually get proper testing not some ph level color changing bs

Yeah, they're not quantitative. They can't tell you how much gear is in the vial, but they're supposed to be able to tell you if a particular compound is present or not.
 
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