Test, T-Bol, Primo, Var Cycle, Any thoughts or changes???

[Dfrank7812]

test cyp for 18 weeks
weeks 1 - 3: 250mg
weeks 3 - 7: titrated up from 250 to 450 mg weekly 50mgs a week
weeks 7 - 18: 450 mg weekly

T-Bol
weeks 1 - 6: 350 mgs weekly
taking 25 mg in the morning and another 25 mgs pre work out

Primo
weeks 3 - 18
starting week 3 at 200 mgs weekly titrating up 50 mgs weekly through week 8 to reach 450mgs weekly

Anavar
weeks 13 - 18 350mgs weekly
taking 25mgs in the morning and another 25mgs pre work out.

ADEX
.25 mgs starting week 3 - 18
will adjust according to labs

CJC 1295 with DAC 1mg every 5 days.
weeks 1- 12

Labs will be taken at weeks 7 and 12

Any thoughts and Opinions are appreciated.

Attached a pdf but it may not work for everyone.

 

[dick_starbuck]

I'd drop the turinabol and anavar and just run more test and primo. Start them both at the same time and titrate them up together.

No reason to run orals unless you have a specific goal in mind like a photoshoot or contest prep etc.

I would also replace the cjc with HGH, even just 3iu a night will be more productive than the CJC.

 

[Dfrank7812]

I'd drop the turinabol and anavar and just run more test and primo. Start them both at the same time and titrate them up together.

No reason to run orals unless you have a specific goal in mind like a photoshoot or contest prep etc.

I would also replace the cjc with HGH, even just 3iu a night will be more productive than the CJC.

Using the T-Bol as a kick starter to get the muscle fullness look without the water retention and for the strength gains early on.
thoughts for the Anavar were to keep the strength up as I diet down towards the end of the cycle and for the aesthetics.

considered running the HGH but I have a 8 vials of CJC on hand and was just going to use them.

 

[dick_starbuck]

Using the T-Bol as a kick starter to get the muscle fullness look without the water retention and for the strength gains early on.
thoughts for the Anavar were to keep the strength up as I diet down towards the end of the cycle and for the aesthetics.

considered running the HGH but I have a 8 vials of CJC on hand and was just going to use them.

I don't see the point in kickstarting, you're just going to trash your lipids and depress your appetite early on. It's unlikely you'll see much water retention from test and primo. I also don't think Tbol is very good anyway, but your milage may vary.

As for the anavar on the end, if you were dieting down to contest lean I would agree. Otherwise I don't think it has much utility.

 

[Dfrank7812]

I don't see the point in kickstarting, you're just going to trash your lipids and depress your appetite early on. It's unlikely you'll see much water retention from test and primo. I also don't think Tbol is very good anyway, but your milage may vary.

As for the anavar on the end, if you were dieting down to contest lean I would agree. Otherwise I don't think it has much utility.

Understandable, I've seen back and forth arguments on the use of T-Bol so I'm going to give it a try.

not getting down to contest lean. Ill toss the ideal around some more. not planning to start until after the first of the year.

what would be the dosage of test and primo you would run up to?

 

[dick_starbuck]

Understandable, I've seen back and forth arguments on the use of T-Bol so I'm going to give it a try.

not getting down to contest lean. Ill toss the ideal around some more. not planning to start until after the first of the year.

what would be the dosage of test and primo you would run up to?

Nothing wrong with experimenting. You might like it. Personally I try to stay away from orals unless I have a very specific need because the health outcomes are poor with them.

How much test and primo would I run? I'm personally running 125mg test and 100mg primo daily at the moment. This is my peak dosage though and I'll be dropping it off entirely in two weeks. I started much much lower and titrated up over a period of many weeks, and months, starting in April I think. Bloodwork is still just as good as when I started.

How much should you run? Depends on many personal variables. If you convert to estrogen alot or a little, what your goals are, your dimensions etc.

 

[Dfrank7812]

Nothing wrong with experimenting. You might like it. Personally I try to stay away from orals unless I have a very specific need because the health outcomes are poor with them.

How much test and primo would I run? I'm personally running 125mg test and 100mg primo daily at the moment. This is my peak dosage though and I'll be dropping it off entirely in two weeks. I started much much lower and titrated up over a period of many weeks, and months, starting in April I think. Bloodwork is still just as good as when I started.

How much should you run? Depends on many personal variables. If you convert to estrogen alot or a little, what your goals are, your dimensions etc.

I completely understand that everyone is different and everyone responds differently to different compounds.

Ive run my test dosage up as high as 375 mgs weekly while using .25 mg of adex a week. estrogen got up to 59pg/ml i felt great still and had no side effects. was running .50mg adex weekly and damn near crashed it drove it all the way down to 12 pg/ml. there i felt like crap and was having lots of joint pain and stiffness as well as feeling lethargic.

goals are to add size but trying to stay somewhat lean with it.

 

[dick_starbuck]

I completely understand that everyone is different and everyone responds differently to different compounds.

Ive run my test dosage up as high as 375 mgs weekly while using .25 mg of adex a week. estrogen got up to 59pg/ml i felt great still and had no side effects. was running .50mg adex weekly and damn near crashed it drove it all the way down to 12 pg/ml. there i felt like crap and was having lots of joint pain and stiffness as well as feeling lethargic.

goals are to add size but trying to stay somewhat lean with it.

The thing is that primobolan will likely reduce your E2 without needing an AI. The issue is how much it will reduce your E2 is a mystery and totally personally independent.

You could potentially run your test 250mg to every 150mg primobolan.

Adding size and staying lean will depend on your diet and training more than the drugs.