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US Enclomiphene Source?

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I know Deus Pharma carries it but I don't think they ship outside of Canada.

Each source I've found so far seems very unreliable at best (Amino Asylum, BrainLabz, PureRawz, etc)

Would be great if someone could confirm a legitimate source selling enclomiphene and not just Clomid.
 

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I know Deus Pharma carries it but I don't think they ship outside of Canada.

Each source I've found so far seems very unreliable at best (Amino Asylum, BrainLabz, PureRawz, etc)

Would be great if someone could confirm a legitimate source selling enclomiphene and not just Clomid.
AIPCT or I know ViperFlex & Colonial have it domestically.
 

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From what I see they only have Clomid, not enclomiphene man
My bad your totally correct. Chlomid has zuchlomiphene as well. Is that what your trying to avoid? Can I ask why you wouldn’t just go for Chlomid if they both accomplish a similar task?
 
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My bad your totally correct. Chlomid has zuchlomiphene as well. Is that what your trying to avoid? Can I ask why you wouldn’t just go for Chlomid if they both accomplish a similar task?
Yep, it's the zuclomiphene I want to avoid. It causes pretty much all of Clomid's estrogenic side effects (mood swings and the like) because it agonizes the estrogen receptors whereas enclomiphene is strictly an ER antagonist. It's also been shown to be better at restoring LH/FSH than any other SERM I'm aware of. I've seen BW of a guy using it as monotherapy for near-hypogonadism at 12.5mg ED and going from 310 T to almost 1500
 

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Yep, it's the zuclomiphene I want to avoid. It causes pretty much all of Clomid's estrogenic side effects (mood swings and the like) because it agonizes the estrogen receptors whereas enclomiphene is strictly an ER antagonist. It's also been shown to be better at restoring LH/FSH than any other SERM I'm aware of. I've seen BW of a guy using it as monotherapy for near-hypogonadism at 12.5mg ED and going from 310 T to almost 1500
I'm actually hearing a ton on things about enclomiphene lately. I want to start doing research into it as a PCT/Off-Cycle support.
 
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I'm actually hearing a ton on things about enclomiphene lately. I want to start doing research into it as a PCT/Off-Cycle support.
I've used it before and it's great. Skyrockets my LH and FSH with the only side effect being mild irritability/aggression. Only SERM I've used that me feeling noticeably better and more energetic after just two doses. None of that Clomid estro-like BS. Unfortunately my old source for it is gone.
 

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I'm interested in this as well. It seems like the FDA has made compounding pharmacies seize production of HCG? And now Enclomiphene is the replacement. It looks like it's the better option anyways, not certain.

Is this something that can be taken year round on blast and cruise? I heard 12.5 mg twice a week on TRT.
 
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I'm interested in this as well. It seems like the FDA has made compounding pharmacies seize production of HCG? And now Enclomiphene is the replacement. It looks like it's the better option anyways, not certain.

Is this something that can be taken year round on blast and cruise? I heard 12.5 mg twice a week on TRT.
It has a relatively short half-life so I think 6.25 EoD would make more sense. The studies where it was used semi-long-term it was well-tolerated but as always it's something you should probably talk to your doctor about before swapping HCG for it. Those studies were also taking only enclomiphene, not alongside TRT but it can be reasonably assumed it may help preserve/restore fertility as it does effectively when taken without TRT.
 

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It has a relatively short half-life so I think 6.25 EoD would make more sense. The studies where it was used semi-long-term it was well-tolerated but as always it's something you should probably talk to your doctor about before swapping HCG for it. Those studies were also taking only enclomiphene, not alongside TRT but it can be reasonably assumed it may help preserve/restore fertility as it does effectively when taken without TRT.

Here is a video I came across describing the idea of using it on TRT. He basically says that the short half life is a plus because it gives your body just enough time to switch stuff on as it does not sit on your estrogen receptors for very long, unlike Clomid so you don’t have to deal with those side effects. He explains 12.5 mg E3.5D is ideal, but it’s probably worth experimenting with. I did find some sources but not sure how legit they are. Pluses: bigger ejaculatory loads/better orgasms, slight ball size increase, fertility protection. I’m sure there are more but count me interested.
 
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Here is a video I came across describing the idea of using it on TRT. He basically says that the short half life is a plus because it gives your body just enough time to switch stuff on as it does not sit on your estrogen receptors for very long, unlike Clomid so you don’t have to deal with those side effects. He explains 12.5 mg E3.5D is ideal, but it’s probably worth experimenting with. I did find some sources but not sure how legit they are. Pluses: bigger ejaculatory loads/better orgasms, slight ball size increase, fertility protection. I’m sure there are more but count me interested.
Interesting stuff. Enclomiphene looks really promising, and it's kind of fascinating that 12.5mg E3.5 can raise sperm count more than 6.25 EoD. I guess the higher peaks really matter here. Definitely have experienced those pluses when I ran it in the past too.
 

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Kepp us updated, I'm curious if the sources on here will eventually carry it.
 

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@spontaneoussoupspoon so I just wanted to update. I received the Enclomiphene. I'm hesitant to start taking it as after further discussion and research it seems like there's still a lot of uncertainty around it. Long term negative ocular changes is one of my main concerns - it's not clear whether that same effect is present in Enclomiphene as it is in Clomiphene. I might hold off for now.

In the mean time, I have ordered 2000 IU vials of HCG. I plan on trying to dial that in now on my cruise. In that past, I've always had 5000 or 10000 IU vials and my doses have been minimal. It seems the shelf life of HCG, once reconstituted, is not as long as I had originally thought hence the 2000 IU vials.
 
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@spontaneoussoupspoon so I just wanted to update. I received the Enclomiphene. I'm hesitant to start taking it as after further discussion and research it seems like there's still a lot of uncertainty around it. Long term negative ocular changes is one of my main concerns - it's not clear whether that same effect is present in Enclomiphene as it is in Clomiphene. I might hold off for now.

In the mean time, I have ordered 2000 IU vials of HCG. I plan on trying to dial that in now on my cruise. In that past, I've always had 5000 or 10000 IU vials and my doses have been minimal. It seems the shelf life of HCG, once reconstituted, is not as long as I had originally thought hence the 2000 IU vials.
Who's your source? I've taken enclomiphene before at 6.25mg daily without any negative ocular changes (no floaters or blurred vision) but my old source is gone. Also for what it's worth both clomiphene and tamoxifen give me floaters
 

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I've been doing some digging into Enclomiphene sources from China (where all the raws come from). It looks like there's a few sources like this one:

...That sell 10g for ~300-350 USD + 50$ shipping. That's the approx rate from a few WhatssApp conversations I've had with sellers who show their lab results- but honestly its impossible to trust some people from india or china selling you raws. The question is do you have +2k USD to buy from these sources, pay for testing, and hope its pure enclomid...

Most of the Pills claiming to be enclomid from India actually are not pure enclomiphene. I.e. a 50mg tablet claiming to be enclomid would be 50mg of enclomid from the total of clomid. Its on the labelling. I've ordered some pills called Enos enclomiphene from India to verify this claim.

Overall, I think the best best for finding the source of real enclomid lies in someone willing to test a few of the MadeinChina bulk enclomipehne raws, test it, and hopefully score on some legit.
 
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I've been doing some digging into Enclomiphene sources from China (where all the raws come from). It looks like there's a few sources like this one:

...That sell 10g for ~300-350 USD + 50$ shipping. That's the approx rate from a few WhatssApp conversations I've had with sellers who show their lab results- but honestly its impossible to trust some people from india or china selling you raws. The question is do you have +2k USD to buy from these sources, pay for testing, and hope its pure enclomid...

Most of the Pills claiming to be enclomid from India actually are not pure enclomiphene. I.e. a 50mg tablet claiming to be enclomid would be 50mg of enclomid from the total of clomid. Its on the labelling. I've ordered some pills called Enos enclomiphene from India to verify this claim.

Overall, I think the best best for finding the source of real enclomid lies in someone willing to test a few of the MadeinChina bulk enclomipehne raws, test it, and hopefully score on some legit.
wow, I didn't even realize. The "En-Clofert" I have are 50 mg tablets and the back of the box says, "Each film coated tablet contains: Clomiphene Citrate USP equivalent to Enclomiphene 50 mg"...

doing some digging I came across this post on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/sarmsourcetalk/comments/f022x2 Here is a reply from ExpressPCT:

We have posted regarding this some times on other posts but Enclomiphene is not difficult to obtain in API form, it is incredibly easy to obtain and the actual reason it is difficult to find it being offered in tablet form is because there is a patent on solid tablet forms for Enclomiphene - There used to be other manufacturers however as this patent came to the scene most have stopped manufacturing it. It is also very easily obtainable in liquid form (peptides).

It can not be marketed directly as Enclomiphene however it is not completely incorrect. Clomiphene is made up of two isomers, Enclomiphene is one of them. The manufacturer of En-Clofert who is FDA approved also manufactures Clofert which is Clomiphene! The price that this manufacturer offers this product for reflects the product itself, there is a very large price different between En-Clofert and Clofert.

and then a post from another user:

Don't be sorry, it is enclomiphene. Due to patent copyright the manufacturer can't explicitly state that's its enclomiphene however it is. I didn't experience any of the negative sides associated with clomiphene and I was using a high dose for quite a while.
 
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