what would be a good noob cycle to cut down some weight. im fat as fuck right now.

[keaux]

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[Pooplord420]

Moderate dose of test and a good diet

 

[Gullinbursti]

Diet and exercise. At most trt. Steroids aren't something you should be using if you're "fat as fuck". Figure out diet, cut down and then cycle

 

[Pooplord420]

Forgot to mention steroids wont help you lose fat. At most they’ll help you keep muscle if you’re in a large deficit but even then theres limits to that. If you have no or little experience in the gym (less than 3 years) you shouldn’t even be thinking about steroids.

 

[Gainscity]

Diet+exercise+TRT is all u need if ur fat af u don’t need to cycle. Work hard at diet+exercise first.

 

[Rusty.Shackleford]

Test won’t help burn fat at all. But I started on TRT while overweight, I had been my entire life. Best decision I’ve ever made. It gave me the motivation to push myself to the next level with my fitness goals. Currently sitting at the lowest BF I have been as an adult.

 

[KingPin]

Like the previous comments stated, dial in your diet, and trt if anything to keep the muscle you do have. Id recommend getting a Dexa scan to see where your current lean muscle is sitting at, and when you are 2-3 mos and have lost weight see where that # is at. that way you know youre dieting is on point and how much muscle youv gained and lost. hope this helps.

 

[KaKeNess]

Diet is 100% of what it takes to lose weight, you could work out for 3hrs a day and still not lose wieght, if your consuming more then you can burn and be in a caloric deficit.

There is an adage that a 3,500 caloric deficit is needed to lose one pound, and this is a good average to start with! So if 3500 adage calorie per pound (ACPP) = 1lb, take 3500 X 7 = 24,500 ACPP per wk, remember this number. Lets say your 300lbs the adage for a 300lb persons metabloic rate (MBR) is between 3000-3500 cal a day lets make said at 3250 MBR for shits an giggles take the MBR number X 7 for a total of 22,750 MBR and remember this number. Now lets say this said person has a caloric intake (CI) of 1200 cal a day and X this by 7 = 8400 Total Caloric Intake (TCI), now this say said person works out for a 1.5hr a day, 1 hr being weight training and the other half hour being cardio the adage admount he would burn during weight training is around 350 cal and for cardio is about 200-500 cal. So lets average it and call it 325 for this example, for a total of 675 caloric daily burn (CDB) or TDEE X 7 = 4725 an remember these numbers, now here is the fun part.

MBR Total 22,750
TCI Total 8400
Subtract = 14,350 Total caloric deficit (TCD)
TCD Total = 14,350
Subtract CDB 4725
Total caloric weekly burn (TCWB) = 9625

TCWB 9625
Subtract average calorie per pound (ACPP) 24,500
Total caloric dificit per week equals 9625 calories

If 3500 cal equates to 1lb divide it by 9625 calories for a grand total of 2.5lbs per week he should loose, now this is why diet is the number 1 key to losing weight, now I hope you can grasp the idea. By anyone compounding AAS or sumplimations of any sort only aids in the process of loosing or gaining weight aka muscle mass, now if your taking AAS, working out hard but your still eating like shit you wont look any different in 6 mo, promise you that! You'll just start to look like a boulder with a layer of jello around it...... Yes I know there the is the standard terms such as TDEE and shit like that lol but I like to set my own trend

 

[KaKeNess]

Now things that will aid in losing weight, and I must correct when on says test wont help burn fat is misconcepted no test it self does nothing for fat but test helps aid in new muscle mass and more muscle means more calories needed daily so if your gaining muscle but eating in a deficit that equates to fat loss.

If you have low testostrone then a TRT protcal would help significally.

Metformen
Semgultide
Clen
T3
DNP
Are your best fat aids but nothing is better then eating cleaner and having a good eating habbit aka diet.

 

[Luxferro]

Best fat loss agents in order of most to least healthy (top of list is most healthy):

Semaglutide/liraglutide/Tirzapetide
MT2
T3
Clen
Tren
DNP (potentially fatal)

 

[keaux]

Diet is 100% of what it takes to lose weight, you could work out for 3hrs a day and still not lose wieght, if your consuming more then you can burn and be in a caloric deficit.

There is an adage that a 3,500 caloric deficit is needed to lose one pound, and this is a good average to start with! So if 3500 adage calorie per pound (ACPP) = 1lb, take 3500 X 7 = 24,500 ACPP per wk, remember this number. Lets say your 300lbs the adage for a 300lb persons metabloic rate (MBR) is between 3000-3500 cal a day lets make said at 3250 MBR for shits an giggles take the MBR number X 7 for a total of 22,750 MBR and remember this number. Now lets say this said person has a caloric intake (CI) of 1200 cal a day and X this by 7 = 8400 Total Caloric Intake (TCI), now this say said person works out for a 1.5hr a day, 1 hr being weight training and the other half hour being cardio the adage admount he would burn during weight training is around 350 cal and for cardio is about 200-500 cal. So lets average it and call it 325 for this example, for a total of 675 caloric daily burn (CDB) or TDEE X 7 = 4725 an remember these numbers, now here is the fun part.

MBR Total 22,750
TCI Total 8400
Subtract = 14,350 Total caloric deficit (TCD)
TCD Total = 14,350
Subtract CDB 4725
Total caloric weekly burn (TCWB) = 9625

TCWB 9625
Subtract average calorie per pound (ACPP) 24,500
Total caloric dificit per week equals 9625 calories

If 3500 cal equates to 1lb divide it by 9625 calories for a grand total of 2.5lbs per week he should loose, now this is why diet is the number 1 key to losing weight, now I hope you can grasp the idea. By anyone compounding AAS or sumplimations of any sort only aids in the process of loosing or gaining weight aka muscle mass, now if your taking AAS, working out hard but your still eating like shit you wont look any different in 6 mo, promise you that! You'll just start to look like a boulder with a layer of jello around it...... Yes I know there the is the standard terms such as TDEE and shit like that lol but I like to set my own trend

this is huge thank you. My most heavy ever was about 230( im about 5'7 so im a thick boi) . trained for about a year and went down to about 190 got to about 18% bf. push pull legs with cardio mixed in, minimal calorie deficit. had my first born son febuary of last year though and it threw my routine completely off track. I know there Isnt a quick fix to lose weight but mainly I was looking for something to aid in recovery after being laid off from the gym a few months. Currently going through some rough bouts of doms after each push pull legs split lol. I appreciate this alot though, even after losing all the weight in 2020 I didnt have anything close to this to go off of.

 

[Morningcupofjuice]

200mg of test
tren A 140mg (if no sides after 2 weeks increase to 200mg)
use bronkaid(over the counter) and caffeine pills together 30 min before workout - this is a known to work fat burning stack which is also very easily accessible

With these three compounds you'll see notable fat reduction

 

[Gullinbursti]

Best fat loss agents in order of most to least healthy (top of list is most healthy):

Semaglutide/liraglutide/Tirzapetide
MT2
T3
Clen
Tren
DNP (potentially fatal)

Mt2, really? Not saying you're wrong just new to me. I've been meaning to order some

 

[KaKeNess]

this is huge thank you. My most heavy ever was about 230( im about 5'7 so im a thick boi) . trained for about a year and went down to about 190 got to about 18% bf. push pull legs with cardio mixed in, minimal calorie deficit. had my first born son febuary of last year though and it threw my routine completely off track. I know there Isnt a quick fix to lose weight but mainly I was looking for something to aid in recovery after being laid off from the gym a few months. Currently going through some rough bouts of doms after each push pull legs split lol. I appreciate this alot though, even after losing all the weight in 2020 I didnt have anything close to this to go off of.

No problem at all brother if you need anything else feel free to pm ill help you anyway I can.

 

[Colette]

Prep all your meals. If you didn't prep it, you don't eat it. With a food scale and a little arithmatic, you can control your diet pretty exactly. The typical western diet is absolute shit. Don't eat it.
Exercise should be something enjoyable and sustainable. Fuck HIIT. Walk, ride a bike, play ping pong...and, of course, lift. So long as you're moving.
As for gear, if bloodwork indicates normal T levels, I agree that weight loss should come first but what about getting a little boost from gh? It's slow acting so could complement your steady fat loss plan. Especially if you are a bit older and natural levels are lower, this would help.

 

[gainzzzzz]

Use your money and hire a coach, lose the fat, then be coached on using assurance to further your physique

 

[CaffeineandKilos]

Best fat loss agents in order of most to least healthy (top of list is most healthy):

Semaglutide/liraglutide/Tirzapetide
MT2
T3
Clen
Tren
DNP (potentially fatal)

Idk if I'd put semaglutide at the top of the list as far as "healthy" LOL maybe swap it with t3

 

[CaffeineandKilos]

Use your money and hire a coach, lose the fat, then be coached on using assurance to further your physique

A hundred bucks for a cycle vs thousands for a coach? Bruh

 

[gainzzzzz]

A hundred bucks for a cycle vs thousands for a coach? Bruh

Yeah I get that but a cycle isn’t gonna fix being fat! They can do it without a coach but most people don’t have the knowledge to do so. The Chems aren’t magic pills if diets and lifestyle are shit

that’s just my opinion

 

[CaffeineandKilos]

Yeah I get that but a cycle isn’t gonna fix being fat! They can do it without a coach but most people don’t have the knowledge to do so. The Chems aren’t magic pills if diets and lifestyle are shit

that’s just my opinion

I mean I agree, but saying "use your money to hire a coach" is a bit... Idk the word right now lol. The money for a good coach vastly outweighs the cost of a cycle... But he also shouldn't cycle. These days with the apps available and YouTube people really don't have an excuse besides laziness to not be able to adjust their diet and begin to exercise. Boggles my mind that people don't seem to be able to put in that minimal effort... Like shit I hate exercise and would immediately take that magic pill if it existed, but I'm stuck in the damn gym 5 days a week being grumpy that I gotta go.