Why are natural guys so proud of their natural levels?

[TRT37BEEF]

This is a rhetorical question, and more of a rant. But it drives me nuts when guys brag about their natural testosterone levels. I just don't understand it at all. It would be like me bragging about my natural thyroid hormones and not needing thyroid medications. Just absolute losers bragging about something they really don't have any control over. Congrats on being normal, loser.

 

[Gullinbursti]

This is a rhetorical question, and more of a rant. But it drives me nuts when guys brag about their natural testosterone levels. I just don't understand it at all. It would be like me bragging about my natural thyroid hormones and not needing thyroid medications. Just absolute losers bragging about something they really don't have any control over. Congrats on being normal, loser.

Except people do have a good bit of control over their natural test levels and also it typically translates to your overall health

 

[JDLift]

Natties are the virtue signaling SJWs of the fitness world.

 

[Scaryclownz]

Guess if it feels good... it's an ego thing. In reality, anyone who lives long enough is going to experience a decline in natural production and function with damn near every area eventually. Why not optimize your hormones for muscle building (it's all a form of body modification in the end)?

 

[JDLift]

Guess if it feels good... it's an ego thing. In reality, anyone who lives long enough is going to experience a decline in natural production and function with damn near every area eventually. Why not optimize your hormones for muscle building (it's all a form of body modification in the end)?

It's 2022. If you take Test (or other hormones) to get jacked or strong or feel good about yourself, you're just a drug addict AND you're trolled online 24/7 by fat fucks, weak fucks and skinny fucks for using gear.

But if you're mentally retarded and take hormones to live out your make-believe fantasy of being the opposite gender, you can go to the White House or win Olympic medals.

 

[corey2021]

It's 2022. If you take Test (or other hormones) to get jacked or strong or feel good about yourself, you're just a drug addict AND you're trolled online 24/7 by fat fucks, weak fucks and skinny fucks for using gear.

But if you're mentally retarded and take hormones to live out your make-believe fantasy of being the opposite gender, you can go to the White House or win Olympic medals.

That's the most spot on thing I've read in a minute lmao

 

[Gullinbursti]

It's 2022. If you take Test (or other hormones) to get jacked or strong or feel good about yourself, you're just a drug addict AND you're trolled online 24/7 by fat fucks, weak fucks and skinny fucks for using gear.

But if you're mentally retarded and take hormones to live out your make-believe fantasy of being the opposite gender, you can go to the White House or win Olympic medals.

Lol can't argue with anything you've said in this thread JD. Although I can vaguely understand why someone may be sort of prideful of their natty levels. I say fuck that. Just do what I do and start injecting synthetic Chinese hormones without ever knowing your levels to begin with. I might just be on dhb trt for life lol

 

[Colette]

I don't give a drunk fuck what other ppl do or don't do. Ppl brag about what they don't eat, drink, inject...whatever. Natty or not? Why should I care?

 

[JamesDoe350]

someone said, "people on steriods are more serious about putting on muscle than natty people" and thats how i live my life and its the motivation i need when i have to fucking pin 3x a week. lol

 

[Tdivo]

It's 2022. If you take Test (or other hormones) to get jacked or strong or feel good about yourself, you're just a drug addict AND you're trolled online 24/7 by fat fucks, weak fucks and skinny fucks for using gear.

But if you're mentally retarded and take hormones to live out your make-believe fantasy of being the opposite gender, you can go to the White House or win Olympic medals.

No need to be transphobic.

 

[JDLift]

No need to be transphobic.

You can be whatever you wanna be but I am not obligated to accept it, endorse it, respect it, cater to it, or play a part in it. Plenty of 'safe spaces' and echo chambers for you to go to if you don't want to live in reality.

 

[Gullinbursti]

You can be whatever you wanna be but I am not obligated to accept it, endorse it, respect it, cater to it, or play a part in it. Plenty of 'safe spaces' and echo chambers for you to go to if you don't want to live in reality.

JD do you think it's weird if I've seen a few chicks with dicks that I wouldn't mind putting mine in? Is what it is, just curious

 

[JDLift]

JD do you think it's weird if I've seen a few chicks with dicks that I wouldn't mind putting mine in? Is what it is, just curious

Depends. If you know for sure that it's a dude beforehand and go along with it, that's a bit gay no matter how hard you try to spin it. If you find some miraculously convincing creature that you legitimately do not know is a dude up until the D and B's flop out and then you fuck it, that's still a bit gay but I'd say it is slightly less gay because your brain decided you were attracted to it because you think it's a female, and you were fully intent on fucking a female, which is super not gay, but at the last minute she pulled the Trap Card on you and now instead of fucking Alexandria the hipster liberal chick you're instead fucking Alexander the sweaty Reddit mod that thinks he's literally just like all the anime girls. It's definitely not straight, but I think on the gay spectrum you're not exactly a full-on raging homo just yet.
Either way I don't think you can claim straight anymore at that point and the big man up top is definitely not letting you into Heaven if you believe in all that.

 

[Gullinbursti]

Depends. If you know for sure that it's a dude beforehand and go along with it, that's a bit gay no matter how hard you try to spin it. If you find some miraculously convincing creature that you legitimately do not know is a dude up until the D and B's flop out and then you fuck it, that's still a bit gay but I'd say it is slightly less gay because your brain decided you were attracted to it because you think it's a female, and you were fully intent on fucking a female, which is super not gay, but at the last minute she pulled the Trap Card on you and now instead of fucking Alexandria the hipster liberal chick you're instead fucking Alexander the sweaty Reddit mod that thinks he's literally just like all the anime girls. It's definitely not straight, but I think on the gay spectrum you're not exactly a full-on raging homo just yet.
Either way I don't think you can claim straight anymore at that point and the big man up top is definitely not letting you into Heaven if you believe in all that.

Lol fair enough. I was just curious about what you thought. I don't necessarily care either way

 

[EpicFlash]

Depends. If you know for sure that it's a dude beforehand and go along with it, that's a bit gay no matter how hard you try to spin it. If you find some miraculously convincing creature that you legitimately do not know is a dude up until the D and B's flop out and then you fuck it, that's still a bit gay but I'd say it is slightly less gay because your brain decided you were attracted to it because you think it's a female, and you were fully intent on fucking a female, which is super not gay, but at the last minute she pulled the Trap Card on you and now instead of fucking Alexandria the hipster liberal chick you're instead fucking Alexander the sweaty Reddit mod that thinks he's literally just like all the anime girls. It's definitely not straight, but I think on the gay spectrum you're not exactly a full-on raging homo just yet.
Either way I don't think you can claim straight anymore at that point and the big man up top is definitely not letting you into Heaven if you believe in all that.

Oh the old “gay is a sin “ card.
Ever have a beard and trimmed it? Sinner.
Ever had a tattoo? Sinner
Haircut on sideburns? Sinner.

Could go on for days with these silly “sins” that have been interpreted and misinterpreted over the last 2000 years or so….
I am neither gay nor a bible thumper…. Point is , everyone should just live their own lives with their own values and virtues… the 100% certainty is that we all get one ride through life… I am not concerned with anyone else’s…just mine and my family’s

 

[Gbunk]

Oh the old “gay is a sin “ card.
Ever have a beard and trimmed it? Sinner.
Ever had a tattoo? Sinner
Haircut on sideburns? Sinner.

Could go on for days with these silly “sins” that have been interpreted and misinterpreted over the last 2000 years or so….
I am neither gay nor a bible thumper…. Point is , everyone should just live their own lives with their own values and virtues… the 100% certainty is that we all get one ride through life… I am not concerned with anyone else’s…just mine and my family’s

Beard trimming refers to priests in the old testament and Israelites at that. Close though..

 

[EpicFlash]

Beard trimming refers to priests in the old testament and Israelites at that. Close though..

Oh , the “that’s the Old Testament “ position. You make my point exactly. Cherry pick which parts of the scripture are to be interpreted literally. Which part has a stronger weight (old vs new)
My reaction was to the poster saying gays are sinners not going to Heaven. We can find all sorts of verses from all of the religious “bibles” and decide which ones are literal or which ones were spoken in tongue.

 

[Gullinbursti]

Oh , the “that’s the Old Testament “ position. You make my point exactly. Cherry pick which parts of the scripture are to be interpreted literally. Which part has a stronger weight (old vs new)
My reaction was to the poster saying gays are sinners not going to Heaven. We can find all sorts of verses from all of the religious “bibles” and decide which ones are literal or which ones were spoken in tongue.

Yeah the bible is completely misinterpreted in general. Almost every Christian of modern times is clueless. But I don't go into that conversation. I truly just live and let live. Try to understand everyone, try not to judge them even if I don't agree and keep an open mind for the most part. Imagine a god that will damn you to an eternity of fire if you do something sexual with another consenting adult. God exists but that concept of God has never existed. I'm not gay or atheist or anything like that but with an open heart and min it's easy to see how foolish that thought is. Nor am I at all an SJW or into any of the "woke" bullshit

 

[Gbunk]

Oh , the “that’s the Old Testament “ position. You make my point exactly. Cherry pick which parts of the scripture are to be interpreted literally. Which part has a stronger weight (old vs new)
My reaction was to the poster saying gays are sinners not going to Heaven. We can find all sorts of verses from all of the religious “bibles” and decide which ones are literal or which ones were spoken in tongue.

it’s not cherry-picking. Most Christians follow the New Testament as opposed to the old. I would refrain from commenting on something you don’t understand.

 

[EpicFlash]

it’s not cherry-picking. Most Christians follow the New Testament as opposed to the old. I would refrain from commenting on something you don’t where was zims

it’s not cherry-picking. Most Christians follow the New Testament as opposed to the old. I would refrain from commenting on something you don’t

Follow? Oh enlighten me please…….. you mean your denomination of Christianity considers Homosexuality a sin. Because we can name multiple Christian denominations that accept and embrace all Christians regardless of sexual orientation. Comments like yours are the reason why I responded to begin with. Your pious attitude and telling me I should refrain from commenting is asinine.