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__Beefcake__

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Hey everyone,

Been working out for a couple of years now, but I waited until my early 30s to hop on gear. Now, the time has come. I wanna get huge, and my natty days are over. I did a test cycle a few months ago, now I decided to step it up a little. Still on the cautious side, but also def trying to grow, getting that nice roided look.

Already ordered some stuff, excited to try it out. The prices offered here are great, much better than other online sources I've seen. Also always happy to connect with fellow juicers, so I thought it's time to make an account here.
 
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osorisque

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__Beefcake__ said:
Hey everyone,

Been working out for a couple of years now, but I waited until my early 30s to hop on gear. Now, the time has come. I wanna get huge, and my natty days are over. I did a test cycle a few months ago, now I decided to step it up a little. Still on the cautious side, but also def trying to grow, getting that nice roided look.

Already ordered some stuff, excited to try it out. The prices offered here are great, much better than other online sources I've seen. Also always happy to connect with fellow juicers, so I thought it's time to make an account here.
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Are you just going for a higher dose of Test, or what else were you going to cycle in?
 
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__Beefcake__

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I ordered a bunch of stuff, besides test also deca and var (not to do it at the same time, but to have some stock). Anything else you would recommend?
 
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osorisque

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__Beefcake__ said:
I ordered a bunch of stuff, besides test also deca and var (not to do it at the same time, but to have some stock). Anything else you would recommend?
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I'm still rather inexperienced myself. Currently on Test C and Anavar, going to add in Primo E with Test E (just to match esters) soon.

Going to keep doing Anavar at 10mg per day. From my research, Anavar seems to work well at low doses for longer periods of time. So I don't plan to come off even when back at a low dose, TRT+ essentially.
 
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Chaos999x

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Chi- Town! I’m from the Chi too, and I just started basically the same protocol,. I’m on the test and got some Var that I’m gon start soon
 
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Chaos999x

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I’m running 200 now , I’m going to up it to 300-500..
I just started so I wanted to see how my body would react to the Test first
 
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__Beefcake__

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Nice I did the same. Started with a lower dose, now I'm doing 500. I'll continue for a few weeks on 500, maybe even longer depending how I look like and my body reacts. Then I'll go down to 200 mg for a few weeks. And then I may try some other stuff in addition to test. Love the experimenting side of my steroid journey!
 
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Deucalion

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__Beefcake__ said:
I do EOD, I don't mind the pinning and it keeps the levels steady, so I thought why not.
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What are your stats?

I would be careful with deca so soon, unless you are knowledgeable about it and really have your E2 well managed. This is because not only will deca force you to have to successfully manage E2, you will need to manage prolactin possibly along with it. Deca dick is no beuno, so is high blood pressure.

I saw someone think they had high E2 and crash their estrogen when, in reality it was high prolactin.... If you are serious about deca look into P5P and cabergoline.

I would stick with Test + anavar, you just can't go wrong, anavar is great. Downside= Liver toxic. I would look into TUDCA and injectable Glutathione.
 
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Gullinbursti

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Deucalion said:
What are your stats?

I would be careful with deca so soon, unless you are knowledgeable about it and really have your E2 well managed. This is because not only will deca force you to have to successfully manage E2, you will need to manage prolactin possibly along with it. Deca dick is no beuno, so is high blood pressure.

I saw someone think they had high E2 and crash their estrogen when, in reality it was high prolactin.... If you are serious about deca look into P5P and cabergoline.

I would stick with Test + anavar, you just can't go wrong, anavar is great. Downside= Liver toxic. I would look into TUDCA and injectable Glutathione.
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Anavar is not liver toxic. It's metabolized in the kidneys and is still far more mild than most orals. Though it can effect lipids pretty bad depending on the person. That can be managed though
 
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Deucalion

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Gullinbursti said:
Anavar is not liver toxic. It's metabolized in the kidneys and is still far more mild than most orals. Though it can effect lipids pretty bad depending on the person. That can be managed though
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It is primarily metabolized in the kidneys, but it still is, to a smaller extent metabolized by the liver. Not to mention the severe effects it can have on the liver, making it liver-toxic... I hold to my original post that TUDCA and Glutathione are worth looking into while taking it...

Agreed though, it is milder than others depending on the person, that doesn't make it safe though. Also, doesn't mean you should run doses like bodybuilders run 25mg+ for an extended period of time without looking out for common sides related to the liver...
 
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Classicmotu

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Deucalion said:
What are your stats?

I would be careful with deca so soon, unless you are knowledgeable about it and really have your E2 well managed. This is because not only will deca force you to have to successfully manage E2, you will need to manage prolactin possibly along with it. Deca dick is no beuno, so is high blood pressure.

I saw someone think they had high E2 and crash their estrogen when, in reality it was high prolactin.... If you are serious about deca look into P5P and cabergoline.

I would stick with Test + anavar, you just can't go wrong, anavar is great. Downside= Liver toxic. I would look into TUDCA and injectable Glutathione.
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Deca requires keeping an eye on progesterone levels, not prolactin.

I could explain it all but it has been done already.

Go here: https://www.steroidal.com/steroids-news/progesterone-prolactin-clearing-confusion/

He does a phenomenal job and backs it up with research.
 
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Deucalion

Deucalion

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Classicmotu said:
Deca requires keeping an eye on progesterone levels, not prolactin.

I could explain it all but it has been done already.

Go here: https://www.steroidal.com/steroids-news/progesterone-prolactin-clearing-confusion/

He does a phenomenal job and backs it up with research.
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Keep an eye on progesterone levels..... bro come on. You are clearly unfamiliar with what progesterone does in the male body. Did you even read what you posted?
Tren and Deca are both progestins derived from progesterone. If you don't want to have p5p or caber on hand taking tren or deca so be it.

The study stated itself that progesterone decreases prolactin which is why it is so odd that a derivative of progesterone (deca and tren that are progestins) could cause the opposite. Then went on to say because they aren't progesterone itself but progestins it is unknown their effects.

"Although it does not occur to everyone who uses Trenbolone or Deca, there are many who have reported increased Prolactin levels as a result of the use of these compounds, as evidenced by bloodwork results these people have shared with others."

I'll just repeat again since tren and deca are both progestins you are going to have a hard time convincing me to not have p5p or caber on hand for PROLACTIN increases. If you would take tren and not have them on hand, that is your prerogative, I wouldn't though.
 
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