ED to PE ... UGH

Hey all,
Over the last weeks I had posted several times for help with ED. Originally I had gotten some bogus Winstrol which was DBol and shut me down like a switch.
Got that out of my system. Currently running a Test-C blast(375mg). I had also started Cialis daily when I was having issues.
Now, Cialis or not, my body is way way overcompensating for previous issues. I'm with my girl after not seeing her for months and I feel like a 16 yr old with a hair trigger. Should point out I'm 50 but my shit is working in overdrive.
I guess it's better than the ED but equally embarrassing. I'm talking almost zero need for contact to finish. I literally can't get past the initial petting. It's now been several times and I'm humiliated. Worse, I can't finish myself off first as my refractory time is too long.
I'm not sure what I'm even looking for. I guess I'm just hoping for some compassion as well as any advice or thoughts. Pretty sure most of us around here have been there and it's never any fun.
Thanks all

Maybe hims.com I think they prescribe an ssri.

didnt everyone tell you to get blood done? have you and posted the results?

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Middleage said:

Hey all,
Over the last weeks I had posted several times for help with ED. Originally I had gotten some bogus Winstrol which was DBol and shut me down like a switch.
Got that out of my system. Currently running a Test-C blast(375mg). I had also started Cialis daily when I was having issues.
Now, Cialis or not, my body is way way overcompensating for previous issues. I'm with my girl after not seeing her for months and I feel like a 16 yr old with a hair trigger. Should point out I'm 50 but my shit is working in overdrive.
I guess it's better than the ED but equally embarrassing. I'm talking almost zero need for contact to finish. I literally can't get past the initial petting. It's now been several times and I'm humiliated. Worse, I can't finish myself off first as my refractory time is too long.
I'm not sure what I'm even looking for. I guess I'm just hoping for some compassion as well as any advice or thoughts. Pretty sure most of us around here have been there and it's never any fun.
Thanks all

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I take kratom before sex to make sure I can last as long as I want, typically around an hour. It's cheap, everywhere and you'll probably like it

Gullinbursti said:

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I take kratom before sex to make sure I can last as long as I want, typically around an hour. It's cheap, everywhere and you'll probably like it

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Thank You for this!!!
I hadn't thought of that, but I love the idea. I have taken Kratom in the past. I spent several years on methadone (120mg) and often had trouble finishing, if I could perform at all?. I remember after tapering using Kratom to take the edge off and it was a perfect balance.
This time, with Testosterone in the mix, I think it would be perfect. Honestly, at this point I'm desperate. I tried alcohol, couldn't find the balance. I'm really happy with this idea.
I'll be ordering asap, hopefully good results to follow.
Thanks my friend

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Middleage said:

Thank You for this!!!
I hadn't thought of that, but I love the idea. I have taken Kratom in the past. I spent several years on methadone (120mg) and often had trouble finishing, if I could perform at all?. I remember after tapering using Kratom to take the edge off and it was a perfect balance.
This time, with Testosterone in the mix, I think it would be perfect. Honestly, at this point I'm desperate. I tried alcohol, couldn't find the balance. I'm really happy with this idea.
I'll be ordering asap, hopefully good results to follow.
Thanks my friend

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It will definitely work for you. Just keep in mind not to overdo it or let it push your mind into a direction you don't want to go in given you've used opioids in the past. No judgement, I have to. But yeah it'll do the trick, I often end up not finishing at all if I take too much. But even then I have fun because I'm going forever

I can't speak to how well it works but isn't that exactly what dapoxetine is for? Dash or any of the PCT places prob has it. Maybe some of the domestic AAS carry too, not sure, but I'm sure you won't have a problem finding it. Good luck man, you'll get it worked out.

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I can't speak to how well it works but isn't that exactly what dapoxetine is for? Dash or any of the PCT places prob has it. Maybe some of the domestic AAS carry too, not sure, but I'm sure you won't have a problem finding it. Good luck man, you'll get it worked out.

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Appreciated. I have never seen this stuff before. I'll have to read a bit. Interesting how it can help the hair trigger without effecting the harness.
Thx again

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I take kratom before sex to make sure I can last as long as I want, typically around an hour. It's cheap, everywhere and you'll probably like it

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any specific type of kratom? how much do you usually take and how long before the deed?

I really dislike the idea of using Kratom. It sounds like you have a seriously messed up endocrine issue going on. A study on E2 and T in men found the following associations in normal, eugonadal males:

1) High E2 = Erectile dysfunction (can’t get it hard)
2) Low E2 = Delayed Ejaculation (Take forever to finish)
3) High T = Premature ejaculation if erection is achieved.

You’re using cialis constantly. My hypothesis is that your E2 is actually elevated as hell and the cialis is helping you to get an erection despite it. Since we know lower levels of E2 help with delaying ejaculation, I’d bet your E2 levels are elevated. Are you on any AI at all?

If you absentmindedly take Kratom, it will raise your prolactin (which is why it allows you to keep going in the bedroom, as prolactin delays ejaculon). However, prolactin also upregulates estrogen receptors in the mammary glands. That means you could easily end up developing gyno. In fact, gyno is a very common side effect of all prolactin-elevating compounds (Kratom, Weed, Deca, Tren).

You need to get blood work man. You’re messing around with adding more drugs into the picture when you just need to step back for a second and realize that your dick should functional normally and the fact that it isn’t means you’ve fucked something up.

Luxferro said:

I really dislike the idea of using Kratom. It sounds like you have a seriously messed up endocrine issue going on. A study on E2 and T in men found the following associations in normal, eugonadal males:

1) High E2 = Erectile dysfunction (can’t get it hard)
2) Low E2 = Delayed Ejaculation (Take forever to finish)
3) High T = Premature ejaculation if erection is achieved.

You’re using cialis constantly. My hypothesis is that your E2 is actually elevated as hell and the cialis is helping you to get an erection despite it. Since we know lower levels of E2 help with delaying ejaculation, I’d bet your E2 levels are elevated. Are you on any AI at all?

If you absentmindedly take Kratom, it will raise your prolactin (which is why it allows you to keep going in the bedroom, as prolactin delays ejaculon). However, prolactin also upregulates estrogen receptors in the mammary glands. That means you could easily end up developing gyno. In fact, gyno is a very common side effect of all prolactin-elevating compounds (Kratom, Weed, Deca, Tren).

You need to get blood work man. You’re messing around with adding more drugs into the picture when you just need to step back for a second and realize that your dick should functional normally and the fact that it isn’t means you’ve fucked something up.

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Thank You for this...
I'm pretty confident you're right. The thing is, I'm stuck juggling the long and short term fix. We live across the ocean from each other. So months I see her, I gotta work. This all started this last visit.
To answer, yes, I have Arimidex. A month ago I started with .5mg/wk on shot day. That was enough to stop the sensitive nips. I know I'm absolutely due for blood. I just got back and leaving again in 2-3 wks(Damn this war in Ukraine). So I need to sort term fix in the meantime.
Until then, I'm hearing add more Adex. I know it's blind but all I got right now. Would you recommend .5+ until I find the sweet spot?
Is the half life short enough that I'll see the effects within the week?
If I over shoot the Adex what's the consequence? Delayed ejac but at least able to function? (From what you listed above)
Again, yes, I'm aware I'm playing guessing games. I just need a few weeks of stability to get things checked out. Until then, I really appreciate the help.

Thank you so much. I'm setup to get checked out/blood but after the holidays when I return from the EU.

Middleage said:

Thank You for this...
I'm pretty confident you're right. The thing is, I'm stuck juggling the long and short term fix. We live across the ocean from each other. So months I see her, I gotta work. This all started this last visit.
To answer, yes, I have Arimidex. A month ago I started with .5mg/wk on shot day. That was enough to stop the sensitive nips. I know I'm absolutely due for blood. I just got back and leaving again in 2-3 wks(Damn this war in Ukraine). So I need to sort term fix in the meantime.
Until then, I'm hearing add more Adex. I know it's blind but all I got right now. Would you recommend .5+ until I find the sweet spot?
Is the half life short enough that I'll see the effects within the week?
If I over shoot the Adex what's the consequence? Delayed ejac but at least able to function? (From what you listed above)
Again, yes, I'm aware I'm playing guessing games. I just need a few weeks of stability to get things checked out. Until then, I really appreciate the help.

Thank you so much. I'm setup to get checked out/blood but after the holidays when I return from the EU.

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How frequently are you injecting? Increasing injection frequency itself can go a long way to reducing excess aromatization.

I need to know your injection frequency and AI frequency first to try to help you out.

Luxferro said:

If you absentmindedly take Kratom, it will raise your prolactin (which is why it allows you to keep going in the bedroom, as prolactin delays ejaculon). However, prolactin also upregulates estrogen receptors in the mammary glands. That means you could easily end up developing gyno. In fact, gyno is a very common side effect of all prolactin-elevating compounds (Kratom, Weed, Deca, Tren).

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Do you have any place I could read more about this? I had heard of a connection to kratom and prolactin but have never seen any studies or anything on it.
I have some gyno from puberty and do not wanna make it any worse than it already is (not too bad if I am cold but I don't like the way it looks) I already have a fully funded surgery fund for said gyno but the month off work to heal has me dragging my feet to go under the knife.

Luxferro said:

I really dislike the idea of using Kratom. It sounds like you have a seriously messed up endocrine issue going on. A study on E2 and T in men found the following associations in normal, eugonadal males:

1) High E2 = Erectile dysfunction (can’t get it hard)
2) Low E2 = Delayed Ejaculation (Take forever to finish)
3) High T = Premature ejaculation if erection is achieved.

You’re using cialis constantly. My hypothesis is that your E2 is actually elevated as hell and the cialis is helping you to get an erection despite it. Since we know lower levels of E2 help with delaying ejaculation, I’d bet your E2 levels are elevated. Are you on any AI at all?

If you absentmindedly take Kratom, it will raise your prolactin (which is why it allows you to keep going in the bedroom, as prolactin delays ejaculon). However, prolactin also upregulates estrogen receptors in the mammary glands. That means you could easily end up developing gyno. In fact, gyno is a very common side effect of all prolactin-elevating compounds (Kratom, Weed, Deca, Tren).

You need to get blood work man. You’re messing around with adding more drugs into the picture when you just need to step back for a second and realize that your dick should functional normally and the fact that it isn’t means you’ve fucked something up.

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Spot on. And I actually used to use kratom just for improved sexual performance and lasting time years ago. I eventually ended up using that evil stuff twice a day for a total of 80g per day for several years. Almost wrecked my health. It’s sneaky too. It sure does work well for sexy time though.

Luxferro said:

How frequently are you injecting? Increasing injection frequency itself can go a long way to reducing excess aromatization.

I need to know your injection frequency and AI frequency first to try to help you out.

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Thank You @Luxferro
Can't even explain how much I appreciate you taking time to help. So:
1. I'm injecting 1x/wk Test-C
2. Been taking 375mg/wk
3. .5mg/wk Arimidex, on shot day
SIDES:
* I added the .5mg Adex for sensitive nips. That's all it takes to resolve it.
* With no Cialis/Viagra the best I can hope for is a "Semi" and that I'm lucky if I can keep it. Worse yet, I still finish fast even though it's not even fully hard.
* Now, the mental part is horrible. I'm terrified during foreplay. I'm sure most guys can understand this
* My ankles were VERY puffy. I discovered (by accident) that 200mg/dy P5P mostly resolves this. Was taking B6 preparing you run 19-N, didn't run it because if all these issues. Ankles went crazy. Added back the P5P piss'ed like crazy and ankles mostly resolved. Don't know the science but it worked.
I only mention the ankles as it seems like another E2 issue.

So it sounds like injecting at least 2x is a must. It's about time anyway to reduce the 375mg to 200-250mg TRT. This is the 1st time I added the Adex(even though only .5/wk) but I wasn't sexually active then. You're right my parts should just work, I gotta say though, Cialis really kills the mental fight. I was amazed how well it worked and long it lasted. That said, I couldn't give her a hug in the kitchen without a raging boner.
I'm never 'balanced' seems I'm full speed one way or the other. Raging erection or limp, calm or stressed out, energetic or asleep. I just can't seem to balance.

Sorry a bit wordy. I hope I've given enough to take an educated guess. I do 100% understand that it is a guess and not solid medical. Nothing can replace numbers from blood work. Just for now I don't have much choice.
Really look forward to your thoughts

Middleage said:

Thank You @Luxferro
Can't even explain how much I appreciate you taking time to help. So:
1. I'm injecting 1x/wk Test-C
2. Been taking 375mg/wk
3. .5mg/wk Arimidex, on shot day
SIDES:
* I added the .5mg Adex for sensitive nips. That's all it takes to resolve it.
* With no Cialis/Viagra the best I can hope for is a "Semi" and that I'm lucky if I can keep it. Worse yet, I still finish fast even though it's not even fully hard.
* Now, the mental part is horrible. I'm terrified during foreplay. I'm sure most guys can understand this
* My ankles were VERY puffy. I discovered (by accident) that 200mg/dy P5P mostly resolves this. Was taking B6 preparing you run 19-N, didn't run it because if all these issues. Ankles went crazy. Added back the P5P piss'ed like crazy and ankles mostly resolved. Don't know the science but it worked.
I only mention the ankles as it seems like another E2 issue.

So it sounds like injecting at least 2x is a must. It's about time anyway to reduce the 375mg to 200-250mg TRT. This is the 1st time I added the Adex(even though only .5/wk) but I wasn't sexually active then. You're right my parts should just work, I gotta say though, Cialis really kills the mental fight. I was amazed how well it worked and long it lasted. That said, I couldn't give her a hug in the kitchen without a raging boner.
I'm never 'balanced' seems I'm full speed one way or the other. Raging erection or limp, calm or stressed out, energetic or asleep. I just can't seem to balance.

Sorry a bit wordy. I hope I've given enough to take an educated guess. I do 100% understand that it is a guess and not solid medical. Nothing can replace numbers from blood work. Just for now I don't have much choice.
Really look forward to your thoughts

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Not wordy at all. Thanks for all the details. I have a better clue into what’s going on.

Let’s start point by point:

1. 1x injection frequency isn't ideal for anyone. Your levels will be constantly yo-yoing all over the place. Also, your AI has a half life of 30-60 hours while test Cyp has a half life of 5 days (120 hours). That means with your current injection frequency, you can’t maintain stable serum T or E2.

What is the highest injection frequency you can commit to long term? For me, I do daily IM injections with an insulin syringe because it’s easier for me to remember (part of my daily routine) and it’s painless. I would strongly you to do daily if you can stick with it. Otherwise, EOD or 3x per week would work good too.

I CANNOT STRESS THE NEXT POINT ENOUGH:

HIGH E2 HAS MORE SYMPTOMS THAN PUFFY/SORE NIPS. This is HIGHLY dependent on your individual genetics. As an example, I had 3100 ng/dL total T and 112 pg/mL E2. I had ZERO nipple sensitivity issues. I suspect this is because I had more than adequate DHT levels to counteract the effects of E2 at the mammary gland itself. For me, I could only tell that my E2 was high because I was struggling to maintain my erection without cialis (it was semi-hard).

I believe you have high e2 levels given your inability to get hard without cialis.

The p5p helping with your puffy ankles can be explained by the prolactin-estrogen relationship.

Prolactin and progesterone are two hormones which both INCREASE estrogen receptor density throughout the body. In a pregnant women, progesterone sensitizes the mammary gland to estradiol. Progesterone and estradiol grow the breast tissue and prolactin causes milk letdown.

When you knock down your prolactin, you reduce the number of estrogen receptors. This means you reduce the effect of estrogen on the body WITHOUT changing serum estrogen levels.

Try increasing your AI dose in small increments. Right now you’re on 0.5 mg arimidex 1x per week. Add in another 0.5 mg and time these 3.5 days (or 3 days, doesn’t really matter) apart. Very unlikely to crash E2. 1 mg of Arimidex has been shown to reduce E2 by up to 70% in breast cancer patients. With how elevated your E2 likely is, a 70% reduction wouldn’t leave you in dangerous (single digit) territory.

Luxferro said:

Not wordy at all. Thanks for all the details. I have a better clue into what’s going on.

Let’s start point by point:

1. 1x injection frequency isn't ideal for anyone. Your levels will be constantly yo-yoing all over the place. Also, your AI has a half life of 30-60 hours while test Cyp has a half life of 5 days (120 hours). That means with your current injection frequency, you can’t maintain stable serum T or E2.

What is the highest injection frequency you can commit to long term? For me, I do daily IM injections with an insulin syringe because it’s easier for me to remember (part of my daily routine) and it’s painless. I would strongly you to do daily if you can stick with it. Otherwise, EOD or 3x per week would work good too.

I CANNOT STRESS THE NEXT POINT ENOUGH:

HIGH E2 HAS MORE SYMPTOMS THAN PUFFY/SORE NIPS. This is HIGHLY dependent on your individual genetics. As an example, I had 3100 ng/dL total T and 112 pg/mL E2. I had ZERO nipple sensitivity issues. I suspect this is because I had more than adequate DHT levels to counteract the effects of E2 at the mammary gland itself. For me, I could only tell that my E2 was high because I was struggling to maintain my erection without cialis (it was semi-hard).

I believe you have high e2 levels given your inability to get hard without cialis.

The p5p helping with your puffy ankles can be explained by the prolactin-estrogen relationship.

Prolactin and progesterone are two hormones which both INCREASE estrogen receptor density throughout the body. In a pregnant women, progesterone sensitizes the mammary gland to estradiol. Progesterone and estradiol grow the breast tissue and prolactin causes milk letdown.

When you knock down your prolactin, you reduce the number of estrogen receptors. This means you reduce the effect of estrogen on the body WITHOUT changing serum estrogen levels.

Try increasing your AI dose in small increments. Right now you’re on 0.5 mg arimidex 1x per week. Add in another 0.5 mg and time these 3.5 days (or 3 days, doesn’t really matter) apart. Very unlikely to crash E2. 1 mg of Arimidex has been shown to reduce E2 by up to 70% in breast cancer patients. With how elevated your E2 likely is, a 70% reduction wouldn’t leave you in dangerous (single digit) territory.

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Thank You so much for taking the time. This is VERY helpful. I'm confident I can pin EOD. Your right, daily is probably easier as a routine. I think personally, eod will work better long term based on my schedule.
I'll increase the Adex immediately. From what you're saying, it does seem extremely doubtful I could crash anything.
About the symptoms; totally understand. I'm more clear now. I couldn't understand how I stopped the nips but still had only a semi. This makes much more sense. Seems like these E2 symptoms can be sneaky.
The info about P5P was very appreciated. I tried researching this very much without much success. I got lucky accidentally with it helping. I wasn't sure what to do then realized that was the only factor that changed. It was amazing how quickly it resolved things too. <1 week.
I'm making arrangements for a full blood panel, physical, etc. Unfortunately, it'll be after the holiday. I fly out in 10 days or so and return mid January. Fortunately, Portugal provides "Tourists" with medical similar to residents if necessary. But, something like this could be difficult as it is low priority and would take time. So, gotta do my best and lock it down when I get home.
Couple thoughts:
* Although I dislike changing >1 factor at a time, reducing dose and adding .5mg/wk Arimidex seems ok. I'm just wondering after say a week if sexual issues aren't resolved, would another .5mg Adex be reasonable or too much?
* How quickly does crashed E2 recover? Mentioned 30-60hr 1/2 life, wondering if it's too much would a few days be enough too recover?
* Just your opinion(?), Ok to stay with the Cialis/Viagra to kill the mental game? I'm thinking slowly pull back from it as the other factors become stable. Maybe use Viagra because of it's much much shorter 1/2 life? (Cialis just keeps working for a few days, Viagra just that night it seems)

Thank you again VERY much. I feel comfortable discussing and your advice and thoughts have been so helpful without being condescending at all. So important and I'm thankful.
I'll post some updates along the way. I'm starting asap with the change of dosages. I'm due for the pin, so perfect time to begin eod. Also, adding in AI.

Anything comes to mind let me know. Fingers crossed. If I go back to her still with a hair trigger she's going to lose her shit. She is understanding but i gotta get in control. I'm thinking these changes will make a big difference.
Thx again

1) Reducing dose and adding arimidex does not seem unreasonable at all. There are lots of men on TRT doses of 100-150 mg who need 0.5 mg Arimidex per week. If we extrapolate their dosage to your dose, you might be needing something like 1-1.5 mg arimidex per week. Unfortunately, without blood work I would say we should be more conservative. I would add the extra 0.5 mg arimidex and wait 1-2 weeks. If that doesn’t do it, add another 0.25 mg, wait 1-2 weeks.

Crashed E2 takes a few days (2-3) to recover. In your case, since you’re on such a high dose of test it shouldn’t take long at all. The annoying thing about arimidex is the tendency for this rebound effect where you stop taking the adex and all of a sudden a massive wave of T aromatizes. Many prefer Aromasin for that reason. Aromasin is also a bit more forgiving in the sense that its maximal E2 suppression in men is about 68% roughly 12 hours after a 25 mg administration. Aromasin doesn’t have a rebound effect BUT it will inactivate your aromatase enzymes for 3-4 days.

I’d advise you to stop using cialis. Use viagra as needed if you must perform. We need you to get off PDE5 inhibitors so that we can see what your organic (unassisted) erectile function is like. We can’t know if these changes are working to help your erectile function if you’re bypassing it with cialis/viagra

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1) Reducing dose and adding arimidex does not seem unreasonable at all. There are lots of men on TRT doses of 100-150 mg who need 0.5 mg Arimidex per week. If we extrapolate their dosage to your dose, you might be needing something like 1-1.5 mg arimidex per week. Unfortunately, without blood work I would say we should be more conservative. I would add the extra 0.5 mg arimidex and wait 1-2 weeks. If that doesn’t do it, add another 0.25 mg, wait 1-2 weeks.

Crashed E2 takes a few days (2-3) to recover. In your case, since you’re on such a high dose of test it shouldn’t take long at all. The annoying thing about arimidex is the tendency for this rebound effect where you stop taking the adex and all of a sudden a massive wave of T aromatizes. Many prefer Aromasin for that reason. Aromasin is also a bit more forgiving in the sense that its maximal E2 suppression in men is about 68% roughly 12 hours after a 25 mg administration. Aromasin doesn’t have a rebound effect BUT it will inactivate your aromatase enzymes for 3-4 days.

I’d advise you to stop using cialis. Use viagra as needed if you must perform. We need you to get off PDE5 inhibitors so that we can see what your organic (unassisted) erectile function is like. We can’t know if these changes are working to help your erectile function if you’re bypassing it with cialis/viagra

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Thanks Again...
One solid indicator for now will be "Morning Wood". At the moment, it's there but pretty much a semi+ . Since I'm apart from her, no PDE5 meds. I'm hoping to resolve things in the next 2-3 weeks. If I'm good in the a.m. at that point, I'll give things a try without when I arrive.
The mental part of ED is just terrible, especially for me. I could talk myself out of a boner after a Cialis and a Victoria's Secret model in my bed. TBH I'm a little self conscious too (I guess we all are to some degree).
Anyway, I can't thank you enough for the patience and advice. I'm on new protocol as of yesterday. In a week or so I'll post an update.
Have a great day, enjoy the holiday and I wish all my very best.

Luxferro said:

1) Reducing dose and adding arimidex does not seem unreasonable at all. There are lots of men on TRT doses of 100-150 mg who need 0.5 mg Arimidex per week. If we extrapolate their dosage to your dose, you might be needing something like 1-1.5 mg arimidex per week. Unfortunately, without blood work I would say we should be more conservative. I would add the extra 0.5 mg arimidex and wait 1-2 weeks. If that doesn’t do it, add another 0.25 mg, wait 1-2 weeks.

Crashed E2 takes a few days (2-3) to recover. In your case, since you’re on such a high dose of test it shouldn’t take long at all. The annoying thing about arimidex is the tendency for this rebound effect where you stop taking the adex and all of a sudden a massive wave of T aromatizes. Many prefer Aromasin for that reason. Aromasin is also a bit more forgiving in the sense that its maximal E2 suppression in men is about 68% roughly 12 hours after a 25 mg administration. Aromasin doesn’t have a rebound effect BUT it will inactivate your aromatase enzymes for 3-4 days.

I’d advise you to stop using cialis. Use viagra as needed if you must perform. We need you to get off PDE5 inhibitors so that we can see what your organic (unassisted) erectile function is like. We can’t know if these changes are working to help your erectile function if you’re bypassing it with cialis/viagra

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PS: Sorry, just had one more thought. When explaining the P5P helping my puffy ankles, you mentioned it'll reduce the E2 effects without reducing serum levels.
That said, Since I'm increasing Adex by .5mg, reducing my T dose also, I assume I should continue with the P5P as I have?
From my research, it seems my current dose is a good sweet spot. 200mg/day split 100am/100pm. Although I don't think so, would you think any benefit from an increase here?
Also, I take Vit E, also started as prolactin defense but kept it going. 536mg, split in 2.
I'm truly impressed how well these supps have worked. That said, I plan to keep this steady. Any contrary thoughts please advise.

All the best my friend. I'm in your debt.