Bad responses to MCT oil?

[BurlesqueIsHipsterSt]

I’ve had bad responses to a product that was made up of:

1. MCT Oil
2. Test E

I know I’m one of the few who responded badly, because most people never said anything and the response I had was sore lumps that I never get from any other injectable (e.g. test cyp, test U, etc).

I see two possibilities here:

1. It’s the MCT oil
2. It’s the carboxylic acid (way more likely, since I’ve never been able to metabolize test E very well)
3. I would heat the oils up slightly (boil water and then dunk the vials in the water for maybe 30 seconds), which usually helped me absorb other oils painlessly, but this could have altered the stability of the hormone.

However, my response is worse with the MCT oil than just the Test E, so it seems unlikely that it’s just the Test E doing this.

It seems very weird that MCT oil would be poorly absorbed by the body. If anything, it should be easier.

Everyone seems to be using MCT oil nowadays, so I’m taking my chances on some other MCT injectables, but I’d like peace of mind.

Has anyone else heard of anything like this?

 

[flashpass123]

I break out in hives and feel like shit when I use MCT oil. Tried it from two different sources as well. I actually have 3 unopened vials of Test E MCT. I’m trying to get off my hands. GSO is my go to.

 

[Naveln]

1. It’s possible you have a minor allergy to MCT oil. It’s not unheard of. The only way to know for sure would be to buy some USP MCT oil and pin a small amount to see if you have the same response. I assume this is the first time you’ve tried MCT. EO/MCT/MIG840 are all much less viscous than ‘traditional’ carrier oils (grapeseed/cottonseed/sesame). This means they will draw and flow much faster from a syringe. Injecting too quickly can cause local site inflammation from the sheer force of the oil being injected into the tissue. Slow the fuck down when you pin. ~30 secs per cc or so is a decent rule of thumb regardless of whatever the fuck you’re sticking in your lumpy, cottage-cheese looking ass.
2. Again possible. There was a batch of test E raws that went around a while back which had people complaining about PIP and lumps.
3. If heating the oil fixed the issue, then what’s the problem? 30 secs in hot water won’t be long enough to raise the oil temperature to destabilize anything. The water shouldn’t even need to be boiling to cause the same effect. Hot water would be good enough. Hell, you could even just warm the vial in your hand or your man-boob cleavage for a few minutes before drawing and pinning.

 

[Brochacho_Prime]

So if its 2, you gotta ask yourself why your source didn’t boil off the acid when they were brewing. Boiling off is fucking easy as shit and gets rid of this potential issue.

EDIT: or LITERALLY ask the source if they do this, then you can figure out if 2 is even a possibility.

 

[BurlesqueIsHipsterSt]

Helpful stuff. Thanks for the time and information guys, I appreciate it.

 

[VLhUSTNv]

Brochacho_Prime" pid='28892' dateline='1540608968:

So if its 2, you gotta ask yourself why your source didn’t boil off the acid when they were brewing. Boiling off is fucking easy as shit and gets rid of this potential issue.

EDIT: or LITERALLY ask the source if they do this, then you can figure out if 2 is even a possibility.

Can you explain this one? I’d google but I don’t even know what to google here.

 

[Brochacho_Prime]

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Brochacho_Prime" pid='28892' dateline='1540608968:

So if its 2, you gotta ask yourself why your source didn’t boil off the acid when they were brewing. Boiling off is fucking easy as shit and gets rid of this potential issue.

EDIT: or LITERALLY ask the source if they do this, then you can figure out if 2 is even a possibility.

Can you explain this one? I’d google but I don’t even know what to google here.

Carboxylic acid has a boiling point of 214F, which is well below a temp considered dangerous for the testosterone hormone itself. So when brewing, once you have the BB and some oil in there, you bring it up to 215-220 an let it hold steady at that temp for 20-30 minutes, which should boil off any carboxylic acid left over from the manufacturing process.

This is what my folks have always done and its always been super smooth. That being said, I don’t know how much of an issue this is these days, maybe a source can chime in like @“Checkmatelabs”, his shit is always smooth as well.

 

[strongr007]

Brochacho_Prime" pid='28907' dateline='1540644849:

Carboxylic acid has a boiling point of 214F, which is well below a temp considered dangerous for the testosterone hormone itself. So when brewing, once you have the BB and some oil in there, you bring it up to 215-220 an let it hold steady at that temp for 20-30 minutes, which should boil off any carboxylic acid left over from the manufacturing process.

Good info, was not aware of this issue.

Is carbolic acid present in Test P and Test C? Tren E and Tren A? All raws?

 

[Brochacho_Prime]

strongr007" pid='28953' dateline='1540719558:

Brochacho_Prime" pid='28907' dateline='1540644849:

Carboxylic acid has a boiling point of 214F, which is well below a temp considered dangerous for the testosterone hormone itself. So when brewing, once you have the BB and some oil in there, you bring it up to 215-220 an let it hold steady at that temp for 20-30 minutes, which should boil off any carboxylic acid left over from the manufacturing process.

Good info, was not aware of this issue.

Is carbolic acid present in Test P and Test C? Tren E and Tren A? All raws?

Carbolic acid is a byproduct of testosterone’s manufacturing process iirc. I think it’s any ester but I’m not 100% on that.

 

[alphaproject]

GSO seems far better in PIPs than MCT. However I have some Test U with MCT that isn’t that bad. I do notice that if you don’t get it in deep and it rises to the skin you “might” get more pips because none of this oil is meant for subQ and it’s contacting the top layer a bit. I did a test of MCT oil Test P and tried a subQ shot… HUGE mistake. That is a nice week of a painful stomach area.

 

[Kingshit]

Naveln" pid='28890' dateline='1540607627:

1. It’s possible you have a minor allergy to MCT oil. It’s not unheard of. The only way to know for sure would be to buy some USP MCT oil and pin a small amount to see if you have the same response. I assume this is the first time you’ve tried MCT. EO/MCT/MIG840 are all much less viscous than ‘traditional’ carrier oils (grapeseed/cottonseed/sesame). This means they will draw and flow much faster from a syringe. Injecting too quickly can cause local site inflammation from the sheer force of the oil being injected into the tissue. Slow the fuck down when you pin. ~30 secs per cc or so is a decent rule of thumb regardless of whatever the fuck you’re sticking in your lumpy, cottage-cheese looking ass.
2. Again possible. There was a batch of test E raws that went around a while back which had people complaining about PIP and lumps.
3. If heating the oil fixed the issue, then what’s the problem? 30 secs in hot water won’t be long enough to raise the oil temperature to destabilize anything. The water shouldn’t even need to be boiling to cause the same effect. Hot water would be good enough. Hell, you could even just warm the vial in your hand or your man-boob cleavage for a few minutes before drawing and pinning.

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Naveln" pid='28890' dateline='1540607627:

1. It’s possible you have a minor allergy to MCT oil. It’s not unheard of. The only way to know for sure would be to buy some USP MCT oil and pin a small amount to see if you have the same response. I assume this is the first time you’ve tried MCT. EO/MCT/MIG840 are all much less viscous than ‘traditional’ carrier oils (grapeseed/cottonseed/sesame). This means they will draw and flow much faster from a syringe. Injecting too quickly can cause local site inflammation from the sheer force of the oil being injected into the tissue. Slow the fuck down when you pin. ~30 secs per cc or so is a decent rule of thumb regardless of whatever the fuck you’re sticking in your lumpy, cottage-cheese looking ass.
2. Again possible. There was a batch of test E raws that went around a while back which had people complaining about PIP and lumps.
3. If heating the oil fixed the issue, then what’s the problem? 30 secs in hot water won’t be long enough to raise the oil temperature to destabilize anything. The water shouldn’t even need to be boiling to cause the same effect. Hot water would be good enough. Hell, you could even just warm the vial in your hand or your man-boob cleavage for a few minutes before drawing and pinning.

This had me laughing so bad