Bloods after coming off of a 2.5 yr BnC

[anixal]

Hey guys,

Just thought I’d share this here, if anyone is wondering about recovery after long term BnC. Age 27, started at 21, and had been blasting and cruising for about 2.5 years before deciding to come off for a while. Blasts would typically be test and tren, sometimes with some mast, and didn’t use HCG throughout. Last pin was in September and did 5000iu of HCG over 2 weeks before PCT.

PCT was 50/50/25/25/25/25 clomid, 40/40/20/20/20/20

These bloods are in the begining of January, about 6 weeks after PCT

https://imgur.com/qXC3D9f

These bloods are from this week, about 4.5 months after PCT

https://imgur.com/R15vOyI

I’m pretty happy with where they’re at now, considering how long I was on. Happy to answer any questions you guys have.

 

[oa_delgado]

How are you feeling health wise? Sex drive ?
I’m gonna Tun a long cycle and I’m wondering how hard is it to recover

 

[anixal]

oa_delgado" pid='4935' dateline='1522389328:

How are you feeling health wise? Sex drive ?
I’m gonna Tun a long cycle and I’m wondering how hard is it to recover

Healthwise I feel good, PCT was definitely rough both physically and emotionally after being on for so long but been feeling much better the last month. BP is 124/78. Total cholesterol 188, HDL cholesterol 72. All other bloods within range. Sex drive I feel is still recovering, I’d say its at about 75% right now. Either that or I just don’t remember what it’s like to have a normal non-enhanced sex drive haha.

 

[oa_delgado]

anixal" pid='4964' dateline='1522416991:

oa_delgado" pid='4935' dateline='1522389328:

How are you feeling health wise? Sex drive ?
I’m gonna Tun a long cycle and I’m wondering how hard is it to recover

Healthwise I feel good, PCT was definitely rough both physically and emotionally after being on for so long but been feeling much better the last month. BP is 124/78. Total cholesterol 188, HDL cholesterol 72. All other bloods within range. Sex drive I feel is still recovering, I’d say its at about 75% right now. Either that or I just don’t remember what it’s like to have a normal non-enhanced sex drive haha.

Good to hear everything is going well for you

 

[everywhereatonce]

Do you have bloods from before your BnC, or before you hopped in in general? Those are low levels for a 27 year old.

 

[DNPstoney]

everywhereatonce" pid='5124' dateline='1522468727:

Do you have bloods from before your BnC, or before you hopped in in general? Those are low levels for a 27 year old.

I second this request.

Its good to see that you have recover from PCT, and the bloods help give a timetable for recovery, but without prior bloodwork its hard to understand. I mean, you could have had levels at 300 prior and have higher levels post pct (doubtful though) or you could have been at 700 before BnC and never fully recovered. Or you could be at the same level.

 

[NotAJoo]

ryantheco" pid='5151' dateline='1522502610:

everywhereatonce" pid='5124' dateline='1522468727:

Do you have bloods from before your BnC, or before you hopped in in general? Those are low levels for a 27 year old.

I second this request.

Its good to see that you have recover from PCT, and the bloods help give a timetable for recovery, but without prior bloodwork its hard to understand. I mean, you could have had levels at 300 prior and have higher levels post pct (doubtful though) or you could have been at 700 before BnC and never fully recovered. Or you could be at the same level.

Wym? lol his LH nd FSH are still rising. TT is still rising. This means with maintained training and some diet, his TT will continue to rise. You don’t just go from PCT to full natty levels in 8 weeks. It took 20 weeks for my natty test level to reach what it was before first cycle. That’s 20 weeks from last SERM dose… He is recovered tho. 100%

 

[DNPstoney]

NotAJoo" pid='5156' dateline='1522507658:

ryantheco" pid='5151' dateline='1522502610:

everywhereatonce" pid='5124' dateline='1522468727:

Do you have bloods from before your BnC, or before you hopped in in general? Those are low levels for a 27 year old.

I second this request.

Its good to see that you have recover from PCT, and the bloods help give a timetable for recovery, but without prior bloodwork its hard to understand. I mean, you could have had levels at 300 prior and have higher levels post pct (doubtful though) or you could have been at 700 before BnC and never fully recovered. Or you could be at the same level.

Wym? lol his LH nd FSH are still rising. TT is still rising. This means with maintained training and some diet, his TT will continue to rise. You don’t just go from PCT to full natty levels in 8 weeks. It took 20 weeks for my natty test level to reach what it was before first cycle. That’s 20 weeks from last SERM dose… He is recovered tho. 100%

You don’t see a difference between his original levels being at 400 and his original levels being 700?

You say it took you 20 weeks to reach your pre-cycle levels. He hasn’t given his precycle levels, so we will never know.

 

[anixal]

I don’t have pre-gear bloods because I was a dumb 21 year old, but here are bloods from 2015 before I started my last BnC:

T: 491 ng/dL
LH: 4.4 mIU/mL
FSH: 2.6 mIU/mL
E: 19.6 pg/mL

 

[NotAJoo]

ryantheco" pid='5161' dateline='1522512303:

NotAJoo" pid='5156' dateline='1522507658:

ryantheco" pid='5151' dateline='1522502610:

everywhereatonce" pid='5124' dateline='1522468727:

Do you have bloods from before your BnC, or before you hopped in in general? Those are low levels for a 27 year old.

I second this request.

Its good to see that you have recover from PCT, and the bloods help give a timetable for recovery, but without prior bloodwork its hard to understand. I mean, you could have had levels at 300 prior and have higher levels post pct (doubtful though) or you could have been at 700 before BnC and never fully recovered. Or you could be at the same level.

Wym? lol his LH nd FSH are still rising. TT is still rising. This means with maintained training and some diet, his TT will continue to rise. You don’t just go from PCT to full natty levels in 8 weeks. It took 20 weeks for my natty test level to reach what it was before first cycle. That’s 20 weeks from last SERM dose… He is recovered tho. 100%

You don’t see a difference between his original levels being at 400 and his original levels being 700?

You say it took you 20 weeks to reach your pre-cycle levels. He hasn’t given his precycle levels, so we will never know.

But you said he hasn’t recovered (or fully) which is incorrect. His system is turned on. Not only is it turned on, its getting stronger as time passes. Precycle levels are obsolete at this point. Of course we will never know. But being as HTPA is in fact on, lifestyle changes and factors will play into the TT levels from here on out.

 

[DNPstoney]

NotAJoo" pid='5172' dateline='1522516286:

ryantheco" pid='5161' dateline='1522512303:

NotAJoo" pid='5156' dateline='1522507658:

ryantheco" pid='5151' dateline='1522502610:

everywhereatonce" pid='5124' dateline='1522468727:

Do you have bloods from before your BnC, or before you hopped in in general? Those are low levels for a 27 year old.

I second this request.

Its good to see that you have recover from PCT, and the bloods help give a timetable for recovery, but without prior bloodwork its hard to understand. I mean, you could have had levels at 300 prior and have higher levels post pct (doubtful though) or you could have been at 700 before BnC and never fully recovered. Or you could be at the same level.

Wym? lol his LH nd FSH are still rising. TT is still rising. This means with maintained training and some diet, his TT will continue to rise. You don’t just go from PCT to full natty levels in 8 weeks. It took 20 weeks for my natty test level to reach what it was before first cycle. That’s 20 weeks from last SERM dose… He is recovered tho. 100%

You don’t see a difference between his original levels being at 400 and his original levels being 700?

You say it took you 20 weeks to reach your pre-cycle levels. He hasn’t given his precycle levels, so we will never know.

But you said he hasn’t recovered (or fully) which is incorrect. His system is turned on. Not only is it turned on, its getting stronger as time passes. Precycle levels are obsolete at this point. Of course we will never know. But being as HTPA is in fact on, lifestyle changes and factors will play into the TT levels from here on out.

I said we don’t know if he recovered fully, meaning to his pre-cycle levels. There is a lot of discussion about how much damage steroids do to your HTPA in the long run.

Precycle levels are still relevant to me. As someone who is BnC, and plans on being on TRT for life, it would definitely be interesting to me if someone could stop BnC and fully recover to pre-cycle levels. I mean, I know it is possible but it would still be interesting to see bloods.

Overall, if OP doesn’t post his precycle levels (or if he doesn’t have them) then you are right, we will never know.

 

[Clawks]

Appreciate you posting this!
I too recently got my blood work done after a 2.5 year B&C.
Pre-gear blood work showed test ~315ng/dl.

Started age 19, came off just before I turned 22.
No PCT, just cruises at 125/WK for 3 months before dropping test entirely.

Took 6 months to start feeling strong again, but had stopped lifting/eating the way I’d been and was struggling with depression due to other things. Got blood work done the end of Month 7 and have since been off for 11months, starting a test/Tren cycle shortly.

I’ll try to locate the bloods and post them.
Had blasted as high as 900mg for 20+ weeks and still recovered no pct.

 

[anixal]

Yeah man, glad to share. There’s not much out there in terms of people coming off of long term bnc’s, just a few people here and there. I have a friend who was giving himself TRT level doses for about 2 years after his last cycle, and just stopped cold turkey without PCT. He just got bloods recently, 2 years after he stopped TRT, and his levels are at 374 now. Are you planning on getting bloods before you start your next cycle?

 

[TRENsetter]

TRT is far superior to being 100% natty that I don’t understand why you would want to come off completely at 27? I’m 27 and plan on staying on for life cuz I felt like shit.

 

[TRENdy03]

I’m curious to see if your tt will drop off after stopping the nolva and clomid. Curious to see them 8 weeks after dropping pct meds. How’s the erection quality? I’ve done a few blast and been cruising about 3 years now. Hcg 500 2x a week for the last year. Never really saw a change in testicle size once I starting hcg so I’m wondering how bad I’d be if I came completely off. Might have kids soon and considering coming off test completely, keep using hcg, adding in clomid