Cascade Test E 500mg/ EQ 600mg ~ 1848ng/dl

[David1786]

https://imgur.com/a/qaIh9YiM

Blood Work Review
Link to blood work : https://imgur.com/a/8M4b1Pw	// Imgur Link to bloods https://imgur.com/a/8M4b1Pw //
Source : Cascade Labs	// @Cascade //
Running testosterone :	// yes //
Ester : Enanthate	// Enanthate//
Weekly dosage : 500mg	// 500mg//
Product(s) run other than test : EQ	// EQ //
Weekly dosage(s) : 600mg	// 600mg//
Number of weeks run : 5.5wks	// 5.5wks //
Draw time after last pin : 48Hrs	// 48hrs//
Blood Results
Test reading in ng/dL : 1848	// 1848//
Test multiplier :	// 3.7 //
Capped at >1500 :	// yes/no //
E2 reading :57	// 57//
Liver/lipids elevated : No	// No//

ANYTHING ELSE WORTH MENTIONING GOES BELOW:

* I also ran first 4 weeks of Cascade Dbol 25mg/ed
* Also taking Aromasin 12.5 EOD, E2 levels seem to be in good range at least which is always good to see. Liver panel have been fine as well, taking Tudca and NAC
* My Test Multiplier, I had blood work done before the cycle which I linked the image too back in November, my base test levels were 304ng/dl and now 6 weeks into the cycle I am at 1848ng/dl, would this make me a low responder? Why? lol

 

[David1786]

So my question is would my Test Multiplier true Number be against what my base was prior to cycle vs what it is now instead of simply dividing it by the total mg of compounds im taking?

Also, is it just genetics that makes a low responder?

 

[Deadlift]

David1786" pid='46364' dateline='1553649603:

So my question is would my Test Multiplier true Number be against what my base was prior to cycle vs what it is now instead of simply dividing it by the total mg of compounds im taking?

Also, is it just genetics that makes a low responder?

The amount of people in which genetics cause a low response is so small that it’s almost never applicable, it’s mostly just a way for vendors to cover for themselves. With that said, this isn’t a super low response, but it’s definitely on the lower end of what it could be (500mg/wk should put you around 2200-3200. With the other results from Cascade it’s definitely at least worth noting.

 

[Cascade]

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With the other results from Cascade it’s definitely at least worth noting.

Can I get a little clarification on what you mean by this?

 

[David1786]

@“Cascade” Cas I forwarded you the email you requested, did you receive my response?

 

[Bdawg459448]

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David1786" pid='46364' dateline='1553649603:

So my question is would my Test Multiplier true Number be against what my base was prior to cycle vs what it is now instead of simply dividing it by the total mg of compounds im taking?

Also, is it just genetics that makes a low responder?

The amount of people in which genetics cause a low response is so small that it’s almost never applicable, it’s mostly just a way for vendors to cover for themselves. With that said, this isn’t a super low response, but it’s definitely on the lower end of what it could be (500mg/wk should put you around 2200-3200. With the other results from Cascade it’s definitely at least worth noting.

Gotta disagree with this statement. I pulled almost the same numbers off 500mg per week and the gear I was on tested 260mg per ml. So saying that shit about it being an excuse for vendors is straight crap. I’m jacked as fuck and feel like a beast on blast and cruise but fir whatever reason my bloodwork comes in lower than others on same doses

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David1786" pid='46364' dateline='1553649603:

So my question is would my Test Multiplier true Number be against what my base was prior to cycle vs what it is now instead of simply dividing it by the total mg of compounds im taking?

Also, is it just genetics that makes a low responder?

The amount of people in which genetics cause a low response is so small that it’s almost never applicable, it’s mostly just a way for vendors to cover for themselves. With that said, this isn’t a super low response, but it’s definitely on the lower end of what it could be (500mg/wk should put you around 2200-3200. With the other results from Cascade it’s definitely at least worth noting.

And I’m not sticking up for @“Cascade” cause I could really care less. I spend fortunes with all the labs I fuck with just never dealt with cascade. I call bullshit when I see it and if you got an issue with cascade take it up with him i hear hes a standup guy. Dont be trying to shit on him in the open forum trying to tarnish his brand with dumbass comments.

 

[David1786]

Well, I’m not sure about the comments from Deadlift, I have always tested in the 300 range when I’m not on cycle. Currently with the gear I’m taking now I’m up 10lbs, I can see more vascularity/pumps, and being currently in week 6 I’m feeling good so far on the cycle.
The only reason I purchased from @“Cascade” was because of his reputation he had on this forum and the extensive amount of positive bloods he has received.
I have no problem with his Gear, or his customer service.

I simply was curious what causes some people like myself to respond so much lower with the avg Test Multiplier being around 5x @ 500mg. I was assuming since my prior blood work showed me in the 300 range that my true multiplier would be 1848/300 which would put me 6.16
Would the ladder be my true multiplier is what I was asking, not all this other noise.

 

[Cascade]

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Well, I’m not sure about the comments from Deadlift, I have always tested in the 300 range when I’m not on cycle. Currently with the gear I’m taking now I’m up 10lbs, I can see more vascularity/pumps, and being currently in week 6 I’m feeling good so far on the cycle.
The only reason I purchased from @“Cascade” was because of his reputation he had on this forum and the extensive amount of positive bloods he has received.
I have no problem with his Gear, or his customer service.

I simply was curious what causes some people like myself to respond so much lower with the avg Test Multiplier being around 5x @ 500mg. I was assuming since my prior blood work showed me in the 300 range that my true multiplier would be 1848/300 which would put me 6.16
Would the ladder be my true multiplier is what I was asking, not all this other noise.

Hey man, no sweat here. Your levels are on the lower end of the spectrum but there could be a various reasons for that. And I’m ruling out any underdosing/low purity.

My apologies on the slower replies, its been pretty hectic, I’ve been dealing with a stubborn shipment, work, and life in general. Also there was a pretty active scammer using multiple alts (most of which we believe to be banned now) to score free gear and extort BTC. Long story but if I need to bring in the mods to verify any of this, I can summon them to this page to confirm. Taking a few extra precautions dealing with blood panels at the moment.

Everything looks good here - email me for your $100 credit at your earliest convenience.

 

[David1786]

@“Cascade” just resent the email from yesterday.
Thanks

 

[Cascade]

Credit redeemed. Thanks again bro

 

[Deadlift]

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With the other results from Cascade it’s definitely at least worth noting.

Can I get a little clarification on what you mean by this?

I’ve seen two bad bloods within past couple of months then another from a guy called Jdnp who used to be in the Discord last year that was maybe 900ng/dL on 500mg/wk; I’m aware one of those accounts was banned for “falsifying results”, but I know the person from the SST Discord and am confident those specific results were real, regardless of any past results that may have not been (they were talking about the appointment with their doctor and what to do if results came back over 3k like they expected because they didn’t know if the doctor ordered uncapped or not while updating with random info and pics along the way that would take an extraordinary effort to falsify and really just wouldn’t make sense if you saw it all). With those and this in mind, it doesn’t seem impossible there’s an issue with purity or brewing in some way. Am I saying that’s the only possible case? No, but it definitely lends itself to some thought.

Have you had any of your raws or finished products lab tested recently? It could easily be something as simple as raws being 70-80% pure and brewing causing another 5-10% loss. That’d make 500mg/wk closer to 300-400mg/wk, which would make sense with the results (although the guy I know from Discord’s results would still be lower than anticipated).