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Checkmate Labs Test E 480 mg/wk + NPP 350 mg/wk

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Blood Work Review
Link to blood work :// //
Source :// @Checkmatelabs //
Running testosterone :// yes //
Ester :// E //
Weekly dosage :// 480 mg //
Product(s) run other than test :// NPP //
Weekly dosage(s) :// 350 mg //
Number of weeks run :// 6 //
Draw time after last pin :// 36 hours //
Blood Results
Test reading in ng/dL :// 2975.1 //
Test multiplier :// 6.2 //
Capped at >1500 :// no //
E2 reading :// 32.1 //
Liver/lipids elevated :// AST/ALT yes. Lipids not tested //
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Pin EOD so .55 ml (137.5 mg) Test E and 1 ml (100 mg) NPP each injection. Taking 12.5 Aromasin ED, 500 mg Tudca (will be upping since liver values), livercare, NAC, Taurine, B complex, multi, fish oil, digestive enzymes 5'8", 200 lbs, and 17.5% BF according to one of those inaccurate hand held devices.
 
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Did you take any orals or hepatoxic stuff before this cycle? If not then the tudca is probably the cause for your elevated liver enzymes, which arent that terrible tbh.
 
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Thank you for the bloodwork!

Hit me up for credit when I restock, please.
 
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lulidiotlul" pid='22958' dateline='1534419562:
Did you take any orals or hepatoxic stuff before this cycle? If not then the tudca is probably the cause for your elevated liver enzymes, which arent that terrible tbh.
Hmm never heard of Tudca actually elevating liver enzymes. No orals before cycle, but my alkaline phosphatase was slightly elevated in pre cycle bloodwork (and usually is in all my bloodwork) along with AST. I added in Tudca, NAC, LiverCare just to be safe. Also had Var so wanted to be prepared if I added it in. Alkaline phosphatase now in range but AST, ALT now elevated. I’ll stay away from Var for now. Thanks for the feedback.
 
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Zlask" pid='22989' dateline='1534450091:
lulidiotlul" pid='22958' dateline='1534419562:
Did you take any orals or hepatoxic stuff before this cycle? If not then the tudca is probably the cause for your elevated liver enzymes, which arent that terrible tbh.
Hmm never heard of Tudca actually elevating liver enzymes. No orals before cycle, but my alkaline phosphatase was slightly elevated in pre cycle bloodwork (and usually is in all my bloodwork) along with AST. I added in Tudca, NAC, LiverCare just to be safe. Also had Var so wanted to be prepared if I added it in. Alkaline phosphatase now in range but AST, ALT now elevated. I’ll stay away from Var for now. Thanks for the feedback.
Var shouldn’t affect liver values at all AFAIK.

TUDCA can affect liver values; but I have heard this only occurs if you take TUDCA and then take an oral or drink alcohol afterwards. Were you doing either of these things?
 
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lulidiotlul" pid='22958' dateline='1534419562:
Did you take any orals or hepatoxic stuff before this cycle? If not then the tudca is probably the cause for your elevated liver enzymes, which arent that terrible tbh.
Hmm never heard of Tudca actually elevating liver enzymes. No orals before cycle, but my alkaline phosphatase was slightly elevated in pre cycle bloodwork (and usually is in all my bloodwork) along with AST. I added in Tudca, NAC, LiverCare just to be safe. Also had Var so wanted to be prepared if I added it in. Alkaline phosphatase now in range but AST, ALT now elevated. I’ll stay away from Var for now. Thanks for the feedback.
Var shouldn’t affect liver values at all AFAIK.

TUDCA can affect liver values; but I have heard this only occurs if you take TUDCA and then take an oral or drink alcohol afterwards. Were you doing either of these things?
I cut back on the drinking significantly, but have a few a week. Leading up to the blood work i didn’t drink for about 10 days. I know Tudca can be harmful with drinking so maybe not the wisest decision on my part. I figured 1 or 2 days of drinking with 5 sober days with tudca is better than 1 or 2 days drinking and no tudca? lol alcoholics logic right there. So, I either should stop the tudca or completely give up drinking? Anyone need a couple bottles of Tudca?
 
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Zlask" pid='22992' dateline='1534450687:
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lulidiotlul" pid='22958' dateline='1534419562:
Did you take any orals or hepatoxic stuff before this cycle? If not then the tudca is probably the cause for your elevated liver enzymes, which arent that terrible tbh.
Hmm never heard of Tudca actually elevating liver enzymes. No orals before cycle, but my alkaline phosphatase was slightly elevated in pre cycle bloodwork (and usually is in all my bloodwork) along with AST. I added in Tudca, NAC, LiverCare just to be safe. Also had Var so wanted to be prepared if I added it in. Alkaline phosphatase now in range but AST, ALT now elevated. I’ll stay away from Var for now. Thanks for the feedback.
Var shouldn’t affect liver values at all AFAIK.

TUDCA can affect liver values; but I have heard this only occurs if you take TUDCA and then take an oral or drink alcohol afterwards. Were you doing either of these things?
I cut back on the drinking significantly, but have a few a week. Leading up to the blood work i didn’t drink for about 10 days. I know Tudca can be harmful with drinking so maybe not the wisest decision on my part. I figured 1 or 2 days of drinking with 5 sober days with tudca is better than 1 or 2 days drinking and no tudca? lol alcoholics logic right there. So, I either should stop the tudca or completely give up drinking? Anyone need a couple bottles of Tudca?
Lol, no your logic is fine. But you don’t want to drink and take TUDCA together. So if you are drinking one day, I would skip that day’s TUDCA dose, or take it 12+ hours before you start drinking, and then don’t take your next dose until 12+ hours after stopping drinking.

But I will take that TUDCA off your hands lol.
 
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Zlask" pid='22934' dateline='1534373467:
Blood Work Review
Link to blood work :// //
Source :// @checkmatelabs //
Running testosterone :// yes //
Ester :// E //
Weekly dosage :// 480 mg //
Product(s) run other than test :// NPP //
Weekly dosage(s) :// 350 mg //
Number of weeks run :// 6 //
Draw time after last pin :// 36 hours //
Blood Results
Test reading in ng/dL :// 2975.1 //
Test multiplier :// 6.2 //
Capped at >1500 :// no //
E2 reading :// 32.1 //
Liver/lipids elevated :// AST/ALT yes. Lipids not tested //
ANYTHING ELSE WORTH MENTIONING GOES BELOW:

Pin EOD so .55 ml (137.5 mg) Test E and 1 ml (100 mg) NPP each injection. Taking 12.5 Aromasin ED, 500 mg Tudca (will be upping since liver values), livercare, NAC, Taurine, B complex, multi, fish oil, digestive enzymes 5'8", 200 lbs, and 17.5% BF according to one of those inaccurate hand held devices.
DNPstoney" pid='23000' dateline='1534461072:
Zlask" pid='22992' dateline='1534450687:
DNPstoney" pid='22990' dateline='1534450196:
Zlask" pid='22989' dateline='1534450091:
lulidiotlul" pid='22958' dateline='1534419562:
Did you take any orals or hepatoxic stuff before this cycle? If not then the tudca is probably the cause for your elevated liver enzymes, which arent that terrible tbh.
Hmm never heard of Tudca actually elevating liver enzymes. No orals before cycle, but my alkaline phosphatase was slightly elevated in pre cycle bloodwork (and usually is in all my bloodwork) along with AST. I added in Tudca, NAC, LiverCare just to be safe. Also had Var so wanted to be prepared if I added it in. Alkaline phosphatase now in range but AST, ALT now elevated. I’ll stay away from Var for now. Thanks for the feedback.
Var shouldn’t affect liver values at all AFAIK.

TUDCA can affect liver values; but I have heard this only occurs if you take TUDCA and then take an oral or drink alcohol afterwards. Were you doing either of these things?
I cut back on the drinking significantly, but have a few a week. Leading up to the blood work i didn’t drink for about 10 days. I know Tudca can be harmful with drinking so maybe not the wisest decision on my part. I figured 1 or 2 days of drinking with 5 sober days with tudca is better than 1 or 2 days drinking and no tudca? lol alcoholics logic right there. So, I either should stop the tudca or completely give up drinking? Anyone need a couple bottles of Tudca?
Lol, no your logic is fine. But you don’t want to drink and take TUDCA together. So if you are drinking one day, I would skip that day’s TUDCA dose, or take it 12+ hours before you start drinking, and then don’t take your next dose until 12+ hours after stopping drinking.

But I will take that TUDCA off your hands lol.
If your liver is already healthy then tudca will raise enzymes. Taking tudca in absence of other hepatoxic things doesn’t really do anything for you.
 
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lulidiotlul" pid='23039' dateline='1534505210:
Zlask" pid='22934' dateline='1534373467:
Blood Work Review
Link to blood work :// //
Source :// @checkmatelabs //
Running testosterone :// yes //
Ester :// E //
Weekly dosage :// 480 mg //
Product(s) run other than test :// NPP //
Weekly dosage(s) :// 350 mg //
Number of weeks run :// 6 //
Draw time after last pin :// 36 hours //
Blood Results
Test reading in ng/dL :// 2975.1 //
Test multiplier :// 6.2 //
Capped at >1500 :// no //
E2 reading :// 32.1 //
Liver/lipids elevated :// AST/ALT yes. Lipids not tested //
ANYTHING ELSE WORTH MENTIONING GOES BELOW:

Pin EOD so .55 ml (137.5 mg) Test E and 1 ml (100 mg) NPP each injection. Taking 12.5 Aromasin ED, 500 mg Tudca (will be upping since liver values), livercare, NAC, Taurine, B complex, multi, fish oil, digestive enzymes 5'8", 200 lbs, and 17.5% BF according to one of those inaccurate hand held devices.
DNPstoney" pid='23000' dateline='1534461072:
Zlask" pid='22992' dateline='1534450687:
DNPstoney" pid='22990' dateline='1534450196:
Zlask" pid='22989' dateline='1534450091:
Hmm never heard of Tudca actually elevating liver enzymes. No orals before cycle, but my alkaline phosphatase was slightly elevated in pre cycle bloodwork (and usually is in all my bloodwork) along with AST. I added in Tudca, NAC, LiverCare just to be safe. Also had Var so wanted to be prepared if I added it in. Alkaline phosphatase now in range but AST, ALT now elevated. I’ll stay away from Var for now. Thanks for the feedback.
Var shouldn’t affect liver values at all AFAIK.

TUDCA can affect liver values; but I have heard this only occurs if you take TUDCA and then take an oral or drink alcohol afterwards. Were you doing either of these things?
I cut back on the drinking significantly, but have a few a week. Leading up to the blood work i didn’t drink for about 10 days. I know Tudca can be harmful with drinking so maybe not the wisest decision on my part. I figured 1 or 2 days of drinking with 5 sober days with tudca is better than 1 or 2 days drinking and no tudca? lol alcoholics logic right there. So, I either should stop the tudca or completely give up drinking? Anyone need a couple bottles of Tudca?
Lol, no your logic is fine. But you don’t want to drink and take TUDCA together. So if you are drinking one day, I would skip that day’s TUDCA dose, or take it 12+ hours before you start drinking, and then don’t take your next dose until 12+ hours after stopping drinking.

But I will take that TUDCA off your hands lol.
If your liver is already healthy then tudca will raise enzymes. Taking tudca in absence of other hepatoxic things doesn’t really do anything for you.
Like I said, pre-bloods showed alp and ast elevated
 
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