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Compounds that work best for leaness and getting rid of water?

atlas24

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What compounds do you take to get shredded? Looking for something that gets rid of water retention and fat. I’ve always had a slightly chubby/ baby face due to higher estrogen. Want something to really chisel me out.

I just don’t wanna lose my hair 😦
 
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lulidiotlul

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Best thing you can do is diet to get rid of fat, dial in e2 to reduce water retention, and then take anavar to get better fullness in muscles, maybe lean up in the ab region and also lose a bit of water. Anavar is pretty much the only somewhat hair safe hardener out there. Also aromasin is fairly androgenic and therefore not hair friendly, would recommend arimidex as an ai if it matters to you.
 
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system

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I’d say Masteron, Epistane, Winstrol and Anavar are all drugs you’ll wanna look into.

With this said, good luck in the hair department. If you’re prone to losing it and care a lot about keeping it, you’re playing with fire by using steroids to begin with.
 

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atlas24" pid='28992' dateline='1540755547:
What compounds do you take to get shredded? Looking for something that gets rid of water retention and fat. I’ve always had a slightly chubby/ baby face due to higher estrogen. Want something to really chisel me out.

I just don’t wanna lose my hair 😦
900mg of primobolan a week has been my favorite steroid ever. It even beat a gram of tren for me because I got the tren look and I felt much more healthy. A cycle of test, mast, and primo made me look better then anything I’ve done. Also if your prone to male baldness, steroids isn’t for you brother.
 
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Naveln

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OP made a post in the off-topic form seeking validation for taking steroids against his GP and Endo’s recommendations. OP, if you’re really struggling with the symptoms you mentioned in the other thread, hair loss would be the least of your concerns on a cycle. Get your mental health under control before taking hormones.
 
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atlas24

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Naveln" pid='29074' dateline='1540834871:
OP made a post in the off-topic form seeking validation for taking steroids against his GP and Endo’s recommendations. OP, if you’re really struggling with the symptoms you mentioned in the other thread, hair loss would be the least of your concerns on a cycle. Get your mental health under control before taking hormones.
I’m not seeking validation for anything. I was asking for guidance about my current bloodwork and hormone levels. You know my mental health based off a forum post?
 
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Brochacho_Prime

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Oh, you’re that chuckle fuck. Cool.

You’ve never run a cycle and you’re wanting to run for leaness and dropping water. Cut down naturally and don’t waste your first cycle on a cut, because tbh, if you can’t do it without drugs, you’re just going to go back to being a skinny fat dyel after your cutting cycle and what a waste of gear.
 
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Naveln

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You’re complaining about anxiety and depression in the other thread, and you’re complaining about body fat and water on this one. Your “chubby/baby face” is probably due to high overall bodyfat, not estrogen or water retention. Nobody here is going to tell you anything different. Everyone is going to recommend you cut naturally and then maybe bulk on a basic test cycle.

That being said, it’s your body. Do whatever you want.
 
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atlas24

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VersaceLabs" pid='29073' dateline='1540834158:
atlas24" pid='28992' dateline='1540755547:
What compounds do you take to get shredded? Looking for something that gets rid of water retention and fat. I’ve always had a slightly chubby/ baby face due to higher estrogen. Want something to really chisel me out.

I just don’t wanna lose my hair 😦
900mg of primobolan a week has been my favorite steroid ever. It even beat a gram of tren for me because I got the tren look and I felt much more healthy. A cycle of test, mast, and primo made me look better then anything I’ve done. Also if your prone to male baldness, steroids isn’t for you brother.
Haha I may just wait a few years and go full chrome dome. Pretty sure I’m susceptible to baldness unfortunately.


Brochacho_Prime" pid='29090' dateline='1540846574:
Oh, you’re that chuckle fuck. Cool.

You’ve never run a cycle and you’re wanting to run for leaness and dropping water. Cut down naturally and don’t waste your first cycle on a cut, because tbh, if you can’t do it without drugs, you’re just going to go back to being a skinny fat dyel after your cutting cycle and what a waste of gear.
Obviously I can cut down naturally like I’ve done many times before. I’m sure as you know it’s hard to maintain strength and energy levels the deeper into a cut you go. It’s also difficult to maintain muscle fullness and muscle overall.
Naveln" pid='29095' dateline='1540847843:
You’re complaining about anxiety and depression in the other thread, and you’re complaining about body fat and water on this one. Your “chubby/baby face” is probably due to high overall bodyfat, not estrogen or water retention. Nobody here is going to tell you anything different. Everyone is going to recommend you cut naturally and then maybe bulk on a basic test cycle.

That being said, it’s your body. Do whatever you want.
My levels were off and I suspected it may contribute to some of my anxiety. There’s also many other factors such as relationship stress, working 24/7 running a business and other problems. I don’t plan on doing anything until I thoroughly research the compounds I decide to use.
 
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CC19

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Biggest thing is diet as what’s already been said

I have the worst fucking moon face ever that got horrible with gear, but not sure if it’s my diet, lifestyle, drugs I use or even just getting older, but it’s starting to fade away
 
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PissedPajamas

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Taking gear to get rid of moon face is absolutely NOT the answer lmao. If anything even TRT has enhanced my water retention so I’ll never have the sunked in skinny look with prominent jawline I had in my natty days. E2 will always be higher if you’re on gear unless you constantly crash it with an AI and take diuretics
 
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Jbruder

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Biggest thing is diet as what’s already been said

I have the worst fucking moon face ever that got horrible with gear, but not sure if it’s my diet, lifestyle, drugs I use or even just getting older, but it’s starting to fade away
Sounds like you need to control BP, E2, and Sodium. Not worry about more compounds.
 
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knowstigma

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If you are struggling with relationships, working too much (working 24/7 is not sustainable), running a business then I am not sure how you are going to be able to cycle. What I would suggest is that you figure out how to stop overworking yourself and get your relationship sorted. You might feel good while on cycle, but if you do then its essentially the same thing as self medicating with other drugs. When you get off cycle, you will very likely feel at least slightly depressed and fatigued. If you are in a position where you are overworked (sounds like you are overworked due to running a business) then that could be pretty detrimental.

Remember, people are far more likely to talk about the good effects then the bad. Plus steroid users tend to be insecure about things, which means that they might attribute negative effects of AAS to other issues or just not acknowledge them at all. Everybody in general has a tendency to do this.

The fat burning properties of steroids are often over rated. Like others have said, its about diet. Maybe you should be more interested into looking into things like anti-depressants? These are the exact time that those type of medications are intended to be used. There is nothing wrong with that at all.

I still don’t understand why you do not try anti depressants? If SSRIs don’t work, then there are things like Wellbutrin. I doubt many people here are going to tell you to use gear.
 
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Masterofron

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If you are struggling with relationships, working too much (working 24/7 is not sustainable), running a business then I am not sure how you are going to be able to cycle. What I would suggest is that you figure out how to stop overworking yourself and get your relationship sorted. You might feel good while on cycle, but if you do then its essentially the same thing as self medicating with other drugs. When you get off cycle, you will very likely feel at least slightly depressed and fatigued. If you are in a position where you are overworked (sounds like you are overworked due to running a business) then that could be pretty detrimental.

Remember, people are far more likely to talk about the good effects then the bad. Plus steroid users tend to be insecure about things, which means that they might attribute negative effects of AAS to other issues or just not acknowledge them at all. Everybody in general has a tendency to do this.

The fat burning properties of steroids are often over rated. Like others have said, its about diet. Maybe you should be more interested into looking into things like anti-depressants? These are the exact time that those type of medications are intended to be used. There is nothing wrong with that at all.

I still don’t understand why you do not try anti depressants? If SSRIs don’t work, then there are things like Wellbutrin. I doubt many people here are going to tell you to use gear.
“I still don’t understand why you do not try anti depressants? If SSRIs don’t work, then there are things like Wellbutrin. I doubt many people here are going to tell you to use gear.”

Come on… Your post was going great, until this shit.
 
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CC19

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Jbruder" pid='29295' dateline='1541005283:
CC19" pid='29248' dateline='1540957058:
Biggest thing is diet as what’s already been said

I have the worst fucking moon face ever that got horrible with gear, but not sure if it’s my diet, lifestyle, drugs I use or even just getting older, but it’s starting to fade away
Sounds like you need to control BP, E2, and Sodium. Not worry about more compounds.
Sounds like you have no idea what you’re talking about
 
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CC19" pid='29531' dateline='1541212725:
Jbruder" pid='29295' dateline='1541005283:
CC19" pid='29248' dateline='1540957058:
Biggest thing is diet as what’s already been said

I have the worst fucking moon face ever that got horrible with gear, but not sure if it’s my diet, lifestyle, drugs I use or even just getting older, but it’s starting to fade away
Sounds like you need to control BP, E2, and Sodium. Not worry about more compounds.
Sounds like you have no idea what you’re talking about
It’s Jbruder, he never has an idea of what he’s talking about.
 
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knowstigma

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Masterofron" pid='29430' dateline='1541137323:
knowstigma" pid='29329' dateline='1541021494:
If you are struggling with relationships, working too much (working 24/7 is not sustainable), running a business then I am not sure how you are going to be able to cycle. What I would suggest is that you figure out how to stop overworking yourself and get your relationship sorted. You might feel good while on cycle, but if you do then its essentially the same thing as self medicating with other drugs. When you get off cycle, you will very likely feel at least slightly depressed and fatigued. If you are in a position where you are overworked (sounds like you are overworked due to running a business) then that could be pretty detrimental.

Remember, people are far more likely to talk about the good effects then the bad. Plus steroid users tend to be insecure about things, which means that they might attribute negative effects of AAS to other issues or just not acknowledge them at all. Everybody in general has a tendency to do this.

The fat burning properties of steroids are often over rated. Like others have said, its about diet. Maybe you should be more interested into looking into things like anti-depressants? These are the exact time that those type of medications are intended to be used. There is nothing wrong with that at all.

I still don’t understand why you do not try anti depressants? If SSRIs don’t work, then there are things like Wellbutrin. I doubt many people here are going to tell you to use gear.
“I still don’t understand why you do not try anti depressants? If SSRIs don’t work, then there are things like Wellbutrin. I doubt many people here are going to tell you to use gear.”

Come on… Your post was going great, until this shit.
Umm okay? I don’t get exactly what you are getting at.

SSRIs are fine, millions of people use them. Not taking an anti-depressent or giving it a chance is idiotic. I work in the mental health field and occasionally I still run into people that refuse to take medication for mental health issues for months. 9.5/10 they thank me once they do get on them. They also say “I had no idea how much this was going to help.” SSRIs are demonized by some and they can be a pain in the ass but like I said if they don’t work then you try something else. Lots of SSRI sides comes due to being prescribed incorrectly because of a misdiagnosis. For example, somebody whom is bi-polar in a depressed phase is going to react terribly to SSRIs.

Most of the time its comes from ignorance about the medication itself, with men its because they think its “weak” or “pussy” to take something. Its pretty dumb. Being so insecure that you are unwilling to address a mental health issue if somebodies prerogative sure, but often people whom are depressed and/or anxious have no idea how much its impacting them. Stigma is a huge problem still in society. Its getting better.

You take an SSRI, put in the work at therapy and then go from there. You might or might not need to continue on them. If you get sides, then you address those. The goal is to get a person off of medication IF POSSIBLE but lots of people just have chemical imbalances.
 
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