Im 35 yrs old 200lbs about 18% bf. My brother in law does trt and recommended to just start low and see how i feel and adjust from there. I know the mast helps with estrogen related sides with a lower dose test. Im just trying to keep the water retention and bloat to a minimum. Ive got about 7 yrs lifting exp. Im still not against running a test only cycle @ 500 pw. Just getting some opinions from more exp. guysYour best option would be to drop your calories and do cardio. I’m assuming you’re a younger guy l looking to get shredded for the summer. What is your age and current stats? If you really want something to help you cut, try looking at stim-heavy pre workouts that can suppress your appetite for a decent amount of time without compromising your health to look good on the beach.
so your running 600 pw on your first cycle? how far a long are you? what are you taking for your ai and what dose?Im running my first cycle on 600mg of test a week on a cut. I actually feel like I’m gaining muscle and losing fat at the same time while cutting. To control bloat I’m keeping my e2 in check with an AI, eating moderate carbs, and drinking close to a gallon of water a day. I’m looking to see answers from some more experienced AAS users. Just giving my input.
well im defin. trying to get ready for summer. My test is 427 natty, I just want to feel better and look good too. Im recently divorced so im on the hunt again so im just looking for all the benefits if that answers your ?Are you looking to do just one cycle and hop off? Is it for a certain event, like a vacation get away or are you thinking about doing this long term?
I’m 4 weeks in. I’m taking aromasin 12.5mg ED because I aromatize like crazy. Will be getting blood work done very soon to get bio markers checked.flashpass123" pid='3064' dateline='1521154564:
so your running 600 pw on your first cycle? how far a long are you? what are you taking for your ai and what dose?Im running my first cycle on 600mg of test a week on a cut. I actually feel like I’m gaining muscle and losing fat at the same time while cutting. To control bloat I’m keeping my e2 in check with an AI, eating moderate carbs, and drinking close to a gallon of water a day. I’m looking to see answers from some more experienced AAS users. Just giving my input.
Well contrary to what some guys preach, you don’t have to do 500mg of test minimum for your first cycle. There’s no magic in that number, it just equals 2ccs. And yes, you can recomp with just test. If you want to throw in some mast go ahead but I don’t know how much you’ll benefit at your body fat. Personally, I’d just go with test to get your feet wet.Sparker" pid='3075' dateline='1521158616:
well im defin. trying to get ready for summer. My test is 427 natty, I just want to feel better and look good too. Im recently divorced so im on the hunt again so im just looking for all the benefits if that answers your ?Are you looking to do just one cycle and hop off? Is it for a certain event, like a vacation get away or are you thinking about doing this long term?
Yeah…i agree with you 100%. this is exactly what i decided on yesterday. just gonna ease into it with some test. say i run 300-400 pw. would you recommend aromasin eod or maybe just on pin days?ChaseHagler" pid='3088' dateline='1521163827:
Well contrary to what some guys preach, you don’t have to do 500mg of test minimum for your first cycle. There’s no magic in that number, it just equals 2ccs. And yes, you can recomp with just test. If you want to throw in some mast go ahead but I don’t know how much you’ll benefit at your body fat. Personally, I’d just go with test to get your feet wet.Sparker" pid='3075' dateline='1521158616:
well im defin. trying to get ready for summer. My test is 427 natty, I just want to feel better and look good too. Im recently divorced so im on the hunt again so im just looking for all the benefits if that answers your ?Are you looking to do just one cycle and hop off? Is it for a certain event, like a vacation get away or are you thinking about doing this long term?
Yep my natty test is is 427 ng/dl. im thinking im just gonna run 300-400 test only. would u recommend aromasin eod or maybe just on pin daysChaseHagler" pid='3074' dateline='1521157915:
Just curious but have you had your levels checked? Would be mildly smart to find your baseline number and base your cycle from their. If you’re natural test is only 300 ng/dl then a Test dose as low as 150-250mg a week would make drastic changes to your physique with a semi-decent diet and strength regimen. You’d likely need very little AI to control estrogen at low doses like this and bloat/water retention shouldn’t occur.RipRich69" pid='3066' dateline='1521154610:
Im 35 yrs old 200lbs about 18% bf. My brother in law does trt and recommended to just start low and see how i feel and adjust from there. I know the mast helps with estrogen related sides with a lower dose test. Im just trying to keep the water retention and bloat to a minimum. Ive got about 7 yrs lifting exp. Im still not against running a test only cycle @ 500 pw. Just getting some opinions from more exp. guysYour best option would be to drop your calories and do cardio. I’m assuming you’re a younger guy l looking to get shredded for the summer. What is your age and current stats? If you really want something to help you cut, try looking at stim-heavy pre workouts that can suppress your appetite for a decent amount of time without compromising your health to look good on the beach.
Just food for thought.
yea my natural test is 427 ng/dl. so im just gonna run 300-400 test pw. what would u recommend the aromasid dose to be ?ChaseHagler" pid='3074' dateline='1521157915:
Just curious but have you had your levels checked? Would be mildly smart to find your baseline number and base your cycle from their. If you’re natural test is only 300 ng/dl then a Test dose as low as 150-250mg a week would make drastic changes to your physique with a semi-decent diet and strength regimen. You’d likely need very little AI to control estrogen at low doses like this and bloat/water retention shouldn’t occur.RipRich69" pid='3066' dateline='1521154610:
Im 35 yrs old 200lbs about 18% bf. My brother in law does trt and recommended to just start low and see how i feel and adjust from there. I know the mast helps with estrogen related sides with a lower dose test. Im just trying to keep the water retention and bloat to a minimum. Ive got about 7 yrs lifting exp. Im still not against running a test only cycle @ 500 pw. Just getting some opinions from more exp. guysYour best option would be to drop your calories and do cardio. I’m assuming you’re a younger guy l looking to get shredded for the summer. What is your age and current stats? If you really want something to help you cut, try looking at stim-heavy pre workouts that can suppress your appetite for a decent amount of time without compromising your health to look good on the beach.
Just food for thought.
The reason people preach to start at 500mg/week is becauseYeah…i agree with you 100%. this is exactly what i decided on yesterday. just gonna ease into it with some test. say i run 300-400 pw. would you recommend aromasin eod or maybe just on pin days?
well to be honest i wont be using 3cc syringes. i will be backloading insulin syringes and using test e 400. so if i run 400 per week it will be pretty easy to measure. ive done lots of research and i dont feel its necessary to use larger gauge syringes if i will be pinning in my chest, shoulders and lats.ChaseHagler" pid='3188' dateline='1521249953:
The reason people preach to start at 500mg/week is becauseYeah…i agree with you 100%. this is exactly what i decided on yesterday. just gonna ease into it with some test. say i run 300-400 pw. would you recommend aromasin eod or maybe just on pin days?
How much Aromasin? I would suggest running 6.25-12.5mg (depending on the size of your pills) on pin days and then get bloods to dial in your dose.
- It’s simple. Normally this means 2ml per week, which is pretty easy to measure and inject. If you are running 300mg/week, that means you have to measure out 0.6ml on pin days, which will be hard to accurately do if you are using 3 CC syringes.
- It is a large enough dose to see effects, but not too high that you will have heavy sides. If you do too little, you might not see any substantial progress, and then you will start throwing other drugs into the mix.
Edit: Your natural test levels aren’t going to matter much. Once you start injecting, your natural Test production will be shut down.
You may get some pip from that concentration so be ready for it. 400mg a week use to be the standard since pharma came in 200 not 250 like ugls use so that’s perfectly fine. I would wait for blood work to figure out ai dosage but I definitely wouldn’t dose it at eod with 400 of test a week. Also realize there is a chance your natural test levels don’t return to normal after this especially considering your age. Inevitably we all start to decrease in test levels but steroids do speed up the process in some cases.ryantheco" pid='3218' dateline='1521294284:
well to be honest i wont be using 3cc syringes. i will be backloading insulin syringes and using test e 400. so if i run 400 per week it will be pretty easy to measure. ive done lots of research and i dont feel its necessary to use larger gauge syringes if i will be pinning in my chest, shoulders and lats.ChaseHagler" pid='3188' dateline='1521249953:
The reason people preach to start at 500mg/week is becauseYeah…i agree with you 100%. this is exactly what i decided on yesterday. just gonna ease into it with some test. say i run 300-400 pw. would you recommend aromasin eod or maybe just on pin days?
How much Aromasin? I would suggest running 6.25-12.5mg (depending on the size of your pills) on pin days and then get bloods to dial in your dose.
- It’s simple. Normally this means 2ml per week, which is pretty easy to measure and inject. If you are running 300mg/week, that means you have to measure out 0.6ml on pin days, which will be hard to accurately do if you are using 3 CC syringes.
- It is a large enough dose to see effects, but not too high that you will have heavy sides. If you do too little, you might not see any substantial progress, and then you will start throwing other drugs into the mix.
Edit: Your natural test levels aren’t going to matter much. Once you start injecting, your natural Test production will be shut down.
I did read a lot of people saying that they got pip from the test 400. The test im ordering is in the mg840 oil. My brother in law just recently started using it and he said that he didnt have any more pip then he did from the 250. Im prepared for it either way. i feel like maybe it wont be as bad since ill be using the insulin syring. i guess we will find out. also i am prepared to possibly use trt down the road if my natural levels are below normal. i really appreciate you taking the time to give me feedback. stay swoleChaseHagler" pid='3229' dateline='1521302295:
You may get some pip from that concentration so be ready for it. 400mg a week use to be the standard since pharma came in 200 not 250 like ugls use so that’s perfectly fine. I would wait for blood work to figure out ai dosage but I definitely wouldn’t dose it at eod with 400 of test a week. Also realize there is a chance your natural test levels don’t return to normal after this especially considering your age. Inevitably we all start to decrease in test levels but steroids do speed up the process in some cases.ryantheco" pid='3218' dateline='1521294284:
well to be honest i wont be using 3cc syringes. i will be backloading insulin syringes and using test e 400. so if i run 400 per week it will be pretty easy to measure. ive done lots of research and i dont feel its necessary to use larger gauge syringes if i will be pinning in my chest, shoulders and lats.ChaseHagler" pid='3188' dateline='1521249953:
The reason people preach to start at 500mg/week is becauseYeah…i agree with you 100%. this is exactly what i decided on yesterday. just gonna ease into it with some test. say i run 300-400 pw. would you recommend aromasin eod or maybe just on pin days?
How much Aromasin? I would suggest running 6.25-12.5mg (depending on the size of your pills) on pin days and then get bloods to dial in your dose.
- It’s simple. Normally this means 2ml per week, which is pretty easy to measure and inject. If you are running 300mg/week, that means you have to measure out 0.6ml on pin days, which will be hard to accurately do if you are using 3 CC syringes.
- It is a large enough dose to see effects, but not too high that you will have heavy sides. If you do too little, you might not see any substantial progress, and then you will start throwing other drugs into the mix.
Edit: Your natural test levels aren’t going to matter much. Once you start injecting, your natural Test production will be shut down.
No problem my man. Enjoy feeling 10 years younger and seeing some insane changes. It’s going to be what you do outside the gym that makes the biggest difference. Diet, sleep, etc. Enjoy the rideSparker" pid='3271' dateline='1521320683:
I did read a lot of people saying that they got pip from the test 400. The test im ordering is in the mg840 oil. My brother in law just recently started using it and he said that he didnt have any more pip then he did from the 250. Im prepared for it either way. i feel like maybe it wont be as bad since ill be using the insulin syring. i guess we will find out. also i am prepared to possibly use trt down the road if my natural levels are below normal. i really appreciate you taking the time to give me feedback. stay swoleChaseHagler" pid='3229' dateline='1521302295:
You may get some pip from that concentration so be ready for it. 400mg a week use to be the standard since pharma came in 200 not 250 like ugls use so that’s perfectly fine. I would wait for blood work to figure out ai dosage but I definitely wouldn’t dose it at eod with 400 of test a week. Also realize there is a chance your natural test levels don’t return to normal after this especially considering your age. Inevitably we all start to decrease in test levels but steroids do speed up the process in some cases.ryantheco" pid='3218' dateline='1521294284:
well to be honest i wont be using 3cc syringes. i will be backloading insulin syringes and using test e 400. so if i run 400 per week it will be pretty easy to measure. ive done lots of research and i dont feel its necessary to use larger gauge syringes if i will be pinning in my chest, shoulders and lats.ChaseHagler" pid='3188' dateline='1521249953:
The reason people preach to start at 500mg/week is becauseYeah…i agree with you 100%. this is exactly what i decided on yesterday. just gonna ease into it with some test. say i run 300-400 pw. would you recommend aromasin eod or maybe just on pin days?
How much Aromasin? I would suggest running 6.25-12.5mg (depending on the size of your pills) on pin days and then get bloods to dial in your dose.
- It’s simple. Normally this means 2ml per week, which is pretty easy to measure and inject. If you are running 300mg/week, that means you have to measure out 0.6ml on pin days, which will be hard to accurately do if you are using 3 CC syringes.
- It is a large enough dose to see effects, but not too high that you will have heavy sides. If you do too little, you might not see any substantial progress, and then you will start throwing other drugs into the mix.
Edit: Your natural test levels aren’t going to matter much. Once you start injecting, your natural Test production will be shut down.