Jano Test - Proves SOCO is a Scammer

[Original_Gainz]

******This has been resolved. SOCO offered free replacement.
New stuff was jano tested and came out great

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I have been on "250mg Test E, 250mg Mast E blend (500mg/ml)

***** https://janoshik.com/tests/4797-AAS_oil_YKNDZ91DYTSA *****

227mg Test E
24mg Tren E
206mg Mast E

So Mast is present just under-dosed along with test and Spiked with Tren

 

[thallandchill]

@“SouthernCompounding”

 

[Skrackey]

Thats some super bunk gear aye. Mistakes happen and SoCo is trying to do his best to right his wrong

 

[Janoshik]

It was not rerun, I simply didn’t see it before… As I have mentioned many times before, drostanolone, especially is mixes is very problematic to analyze.

My apologies, fixed it up as soon as I had the chance.

 

[HeathGT]

Janoshik" pid='72299' dateline='1571417867:

It was not rerun, I simply didn’t see it before… As I have mentioned many times before, drostanolone, especially is mixes is very problematic to analyze.

My apologies, fixed it up as soon as I had the chance.

Sorry for being blunt but your job is to detect (see) AAS correct? And you’re saying you simply didn’t detect (see) it (Mast)? Has this ever happened before?

 

[Dexter]

HeathGT" pid='72313' dateline='1571420691:

Janoshik" pid='72299' dateline='1571417867:

It was not rerun, I simply didn’t see it before… As I have mentioned many times before, drostanolone, especially is mixes is very problematic to analyze.

My apologies, fixed it up as soon as I had the chance.

Sorry for being blunt but your job is to detect (see) AAS correct? And you’re saying you simply didn’t detect (see) it (Mast)? Has this ever happened before?

My problem is if Jano is on the forum and investigated what was supposed to be in this blend then how is this a blind test. It’s not.

Blind test is you know absolutely nothing about the sample you are handed, you report your results to someone independent that didn’t give you any info at all.

No competency testing in a lab is conducted in this manner, blind sample shows up in the mail, run test, report results, and wait to see if their is a consensus from those that participated in the same tests, you’re looking for 95% agreement.

Never do you get a chance to report out results and then after the fact get a chance to change your answer…it’s one and done in the real world of testing.

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Janoshik" pid='72299' dateline='1571417867:

It was not rerun, I simply didn’t see it before… As I have mentioned many times before, drostanolone, especially is mixes is very problematic to analyze.

My apologies, fixed it up as soon as I had the chance.

“Fixed it up”.

Jano you know you can’t use language like that in the real world of analytical chemistry?

 

[Janoshik]

HeathGT" pid='72313' dateline='1571420691:

Janoshik" pid='72299' dateline='1571417867:

It was not rerun, I simply didn’t see it before… As I have mentioned many times before, drostanolone, especially is mixes is very problematic to analyze.

My apologies, fixed it up as soon as I had the chance.

Sorry for being blunt but your job is to detect (see) AAS correct? And you’re saying you simply didn’t detect (see) it (Mast)? Has this ever happened before?

Yes, and yes drostanolone is often a source of problems, especially in the mixes.

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Dexter" pid='72315' dateline='1571421302:

HeathGT" pid='72313' dateline='1571420691:

Janoshik" pid='72299' dateline='1571417867:

It was not rerun, I simply didn’t see it before… As I have mentioned many times before, drostanolone, especially is mixes is very problematic to analyze.

My apologies, fixed it up as soon as I had the chance.

Sorry for being blunt but your job is to detect (see) AAS correct? And you’re saying you simply didn’t detect (see) it (Mast)? Has this ever happened before?

My problem is if Jano is on the forum and investigated what was supposed to be in this blend then how is this a blind test. It’s not.

Blind test is you know absolutely nothing about the sample you are handed, you report your results to someone independent that didn’t give you any info at all.

No competency testing in a lab is conducted in this manner, blind sample shows up in the mail, run test, report results, and wait to see if their is a consensus from those that participated in the same tests, you’re looking for 95% agreement.

Never do you get a chance to report out results and then after the fact get a chance to change your answer…it’s one and done in the real world of testing.

1. It was received blind. After I sent the report to OP he mentioned there was supposed to be mast in there. In all the noise from other components of the oil I did not notice it.
2. Try sending a blind sample to any lab and 2.5/4 laboratories will tell you to stuff it. There are 4 labs besides me testing AAS, SIMEC, which doesn’t accept blind samples at all, Chemtox, which doesn’t accept blind samples at all, W&M, who didn’t accept blind samples on orals and Lab4Tox, which accepts blind samples.

The report did not include wrong data, it was just that drostanolone was not included in it. Answer was not changed, but expanded.

I’ve elaborated on the problems with drostanolone and technology I use many times before. I will not do it again.

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Dexter" pid='72315' dateline='1571421302:

Janoshik" pid='72299' dateline='1571417867:

It was not rerun, I simply didn’t see it before… As I have mentioned many times before, drostanolone, especially is mixes is very problematic to analyze.

My apologies, fixed it up as soon as I had the chance.

“Fixed it up”.

Jano you know you can’t use language like that in the real world of analytical chemistry?

Dexter, let me give you a counter-question you know what you can expect for 90 USD in the real world of analytical chemistry?

Certainly not a service available to everybody, which I am trying to do.

You know, when the person getting the service is working together with me things like this get sorted out extremely fast.
In this case it was about 10 minutes after I got the email.

We can do it this way or I can just bump my prices up and stop offering blind tests and no errors like this will spring up again.

 

[Bluesec]

Okay so I’ve been made aware of the facts surrounding this case

What I understand so far is that a SOCO blend was sent in for testing and while Mast WAS in the blend as advertised it was not included in the listed report BUT was found in the masspec readings. Jano has admitted his failing at disclosing that result. His admittance of this does not preclude that collusion or scamming was going on. It was a fuck-up plain and simple and Jano has acknowledged it.

As far as we are concerned the matter is settled : Jano has admitted his error and by doing such this absolves SOCO of an wrongdoing unless you can provide extraordinary evidence that SOCO has a history of falsely advertising and selling suspensions and blends
In addition SOCO has decided to RECALL the blend which, from where I am standing, is magnanimous of him because the evidence does not suggest this is a needed effort but is obviously appreciated.

 

[Masterofron]

Bluesec" pid='72339' dateline='1571427418:

Okay so I’ve been made aware of the facts surrounding this case

What I understand so far is that a SOCO blend was sent in for testing and while Mast WAS in the blend as advertised it was not included in the listed report BUT was found in the masspec readings. Jano has admitted his failing at disclosing that result. His admittance of this does not preclude that collusion or scamming was going on. It was a fuck-up plain and simple and Jano has acknowledged it.

As far as we are concerned the matter is settled : Jano has admitted his error and by doing such this absolves SOCO of an wrongdoing unless you can provide extraordinary evidence that SOCO has a history of falsely advertising and selling suspensions and blends
In addition SOCO has decided to RECALL the blend which, from where I am standing, is magnanimous of him because the evidence does not suggest this is a needed effort but is obviously appreciated.

Almost, but the sample still had tren e in it.

 

[MattMatt93]

Okay it looks like this is all cleared up. @“Swole Guacamole” Can you confirm that all is good and being handled as it should ?

 

[Mikeyangelo0202]

Shit u gonna sell some of them unopen recalled bottles at a discount that don’t sound too bad lol

 

[Mikeyangelo0202]

Lol if u said 3 for 50 there wouldn’t be any reason to feel bad just adjust the shot by damn 0.1ml or so and im makijg out like a bandit