PCT sucks

[Giantnerd11]

I really hate pct, I have no libido and nolva turns me into a total bitch. I refused to use clomid this time because I can’t handle the visual sides. I only came off because I have been unable to get my girl pregnant even with hcg while on a cruise. I’m just waiting for that positive pregnancy test so I can get back on some test. My muscles are so flat right now and my endurance at the gym is total shit. Anyone else in the same boat I haven’t been off in over 4 years and I was low t to start and I don’t like feeling like this.

 

[Bmoney620]

I will most likely be in the same boat very shortly. But every guy is different. Also it may take a lot longer for some fully come back than others. And hcg is good for pct but won’t really help to much in the kid department. Look into getting HMG. More money but the way to go.

 

[Hopeisfading]

Why don’t you just do your own TRT? Or when u come off go to the docs and get a script for TRT. That’s what I did. Came off and my natural levels were at 216. He put me right on TRT.

Edit. Just read u are trying to have a kid. Have you both been tested? It may not be you that’s the issue. Lots of women have fertility issues.

 

[Giantnerd11]

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I will most likely be in the same boat very shortly. But every guy is different. Also it may take a lot longer for some fully come back than others. And hcg is good for pct but won’t really help to much in the kid department. Look into getting HMG. More money but the way to go.

Yeah I discovered the same thing about hcg and when I saw the price of hmg I decided pct was the way to go.

Also we have not been tested for fertility that would be the next step my girl already has a kid but neither of us are young so fertility issues are definitely a possibility.

 

[bottomfeeder52]

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I will most likely be in the same boat very shortly. But every guy is different. Also it may take a lot longer for some fully come back than others. And hcg is good for pct but won’t really help to much in the kid department. Look into getting HMG. More money but the way to go.

Yeah I discovered the same thing about hcg and when I saw the price of hmg I decided pct was the way to go.

Also we have not been tested for fertility that would be the next step my girl already has a kid but neither of us are young so fertility issues are definitely a possibility.

Don’t forget to manage your estrogen on PCT. I find that when I PCTd estrogen was key to how I was feeling. Too high like a fucking bitch, too low and I was this weird zoned out zombie. Blood test may or may not help here depending on how the SERMS show up. I honestly forget if they will give a false high E2 reading.

 

[goodstufftakestime]

/r/steroids recently updated their recommended PCT protocols (https://old.reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/thecycle/pct). If going by that, clomid is no longer recommended based on a study that was found where it slowed recovery when taken with Novadex (study on the pct page). They also only recommend 20mg of Novadex (or 60mg of Torem) to keep down the medication sides. I’m currently on PCT as well and haven’t missed taking 40mg to frontload or a small dose of clomid.

I took HCG throughout my cycle though and it’s helped a ton. There’s some mentioning on the pct page of taking HCG your first couple weeks of PCT. Again, this is what is said there, not necessarily what I believe or have researched myself.

As someone else said above, managing your estrogen is key. I typically nuke mine at the start of a cycle with 6.25mg of Aromasin after a meal every day until I feel my libido coming back (after the second dose my libido was pretty solid again and woke up with morning wood after being limp a couple days). That’s a low enough dose of Aromasin that you should likely know if you’ve taken enough before you totally crash it. Though if you find you’re taking it more than 2-3 days in a row, I would have your levels check with labs. Your test levels will be super low and if your estrogen is relatively high in comparison, that’s is going to mess with you more than it would if your test levels were normal or high.

https://old.reddit.com/r/steroids/w..._clomid.2C_toremifene.2C_.26amp.3B_raloxifene