PIP duration

[That Guy]

First time I pinned a gram in a long time. 100 test c, 50 mast e and 50 Deca in 1 syringe.

Pain hasn't lasted this long before(3 days). How long before I should start getting worried? No redness. Just really sore when I press against it.

 

[rastaman69]

A gram? The math isn't adding up. I'm just wrapping up my first cycle so I don't have a ton of experience, but I do have some. I ran 300 deca for 12 weeks and 500 test c for 16. Did you experience any bleeding?

I pin my delts. The only time I ever experience any issues is if I get bleeding. I figure I might occasionally hit a blood vessel or something. It's rare, but I know right away if it bleeds I'll probably get a small bruise, maybe a little sore. Out of all the injections I probably experienced this 6 times.

Are you running new gear with a different carrier oil or something? I've only used gso and it seems to work well for me.

I'd not be too worried about a little soreness as long as it looks normal and isn't swollen. If any other symptoms besides soreness appear, that's when I'd get concerned. I mean, you're poking a needle into your flesh - it's bound to get sore from time to time. I use a draw needle and swap to a smaller to inject, one benefit is the needle to inject is SHARP and not dulled from piercing multiple vials.

 

[That Guy]

Sorry my math is wrong. I meant all together is 1cc in the syringe. The test I've used for over a month at 150mg pw e3d. I raised it to 200. I added the Masteron & deca. Same carrier oil. Pinned into my thigh, very little blood. Less than a speck. I did use the same needle for all 3 bottles and pin.

 

[jumdumpster]

ive had pip that lasted like a week+ before a few times, especially from pippy test e before i switched to c, so honestly i wouldnt worry it should just go away

 

[deathcore]

Your pain should subside in the next few days, a week of PIP isn't uncommon. What gauge are you injecting with? and...you're using the same needle to draw and pin?

 

[That Guy]

Using 23g. Same needle to draw and pin which I'm going to change going forward.

 

[rastaman69]

Using 23g. Same needle to draw and pin which I'm going to change going forward.

I know it's a lot of personal preference, but I really like 27ga even with a full 1ml.

Heck I've used 30ga before and the only drawback I see is the amount of time and effort it takes to push the plunger.

 

[jumdumpster]

Using 23g. Same needle to draw and pin which I'm going to change going forward.

DAMN BOY 23 gauge is big as fuck
i use 25 gauge max to pin
usually im using 29 gauge

 

[makeway]

That’s strange. I do 500mg (3cc) in a single 22-23 gage injection 3x a week. Pip typically lasts 3 days, but only because 200mg of that is primo.

I draw with a 20, inject with a 22-23

 

[Lee_48157]

I always use a draw needle like a 22 or 23 then a fresh one for pinning. I was using an 18 g to draw with, but it was leaving an actual hole in my stopper so decided for sanitary reasons I should not do that anymore lol.

I use a slin pin though usually pin my glutes, I don’t like doing delts because I feel like scar tissue will blur my striations & I just don’t want it to be noticeable if I’m wearing a tank top & one time get a lump.

My process is pulling the oil you want with a regular pin, then take the plunger from the slin pin & backfill it then pin it..
You can warm up the bottle under some hot water to make it flow through a 29g easier though.. I do 1 ml sub q shots in my glutes all the time w no issues.

Good luck.

 

[That Guy]

DAMN BOY 23 gauge is big as fuck
i use 25 gauge max to pin
usually im using 29 gauge

I wanted to go 28/29, but afraid the needle would bend or break.

 

[jumdumpster]

I wanted to go 28/29, but afraid the needle would bend or break.

my 29g needles are only half an inch so theyre not flimsy
the 25g ones are a full inch

 

[That Guy]

I have more than a few left. When I run low, I'll get 28. I have 30 with 1/2 inch slins and if I'm not careful, they bend when I draw. I only use those for subq in the belly region.

 

[jumdumpster]

I have more than a few left. When I run low, I'll get 28. I have 30 with 1/2 inch slins and if I'm not careful, they bend when I draw. I only use those for subq in the belly region.

yeah they can definitely bend when you draw
i almost always backload them

 

[Mxril]

Using 23g. Same needle to draw and pin which I'm going to change going forward.

That's practically a straw.

Pick up some 25 or even 27g and use those to inject, 23g to draw.

 

[Patriottower]

I had PIP in my quads that lasted a week.

I had never done a quad injection before though.

Right quad was Sus (PIP was bound to happen), left quad was deca.

Right quad PIP lasted the full week, left one was a few days shorter.

Changed from 1/2” 30G needles to 1” 25G and injection spot to buttcheek (18G draw needle).

No more PIP aside from like a day of minor soreness in Sus cheek. Not even a little from 2mL syringe (1cc deca & 1 cc mast e).

 

[That Guy]

Changed from 1/2” 30G needles to 1” 25G and injection spot to buttcheek (18G draw needle).

So 1/2 " 30g in your quads? I always thought 1/2" where too short and feared the 30g would break. How long have you been doing it that way? I'm open to go that route since I already have them.

 

[Patriottower]

So 1/2 " 30g in your quads? I always thought 1/2" where too short and feared the 30g would break. How long have you been doing it that way? I'm open to go that route since I already have them.

That is the combo that gave me near unbearable PIP. It was my first and last quad pin on this current (my 2nd) cycle.

After doing that, I switched to 1” 25G in my glutes, and that has significantly reduced PIP. Nipro needles. Highly recommend.

No PIP with deca & mast, very minor w/ Sus.

 

[mmaphd]

My PIP doesn't onset for a few days. I pinned Fri, and my left quad hurts like hell today. It feels like a knot in my muscle, or someone knuckled punched my thigh and gave me a cramp. It sucks so bad. The injection itself doesn't hurt, but it's deep where the oil goes in. It's never at the site of the injection, but rather down my muscle about an inch or two. Perhaps I'm injecting too fast and it's not spreading quick enough?

Any ideas?