Recomp agents other than tren?

[Septicanon]

So I kind of overdid this bulk and I’m like halfway through (test E/C doesn’t start to shine for me until week 10-11); however, if I turn this into a cut now I’ll lose the benefits of when test really hits. I have like 10 vials of tren lying around but scared to start due to my moderate asthma. Any other agents strong enough for calorie partitioning/ recomp? I was able to on my first test cycle (was gaining a lot of weight while losing fat) but I warrant it was either contamianted with some tren (had HORRIBLE breathing difficulties on it and had to start prednisone) or it was ridiculously overdosed.

 

[Liftbig33]

Npp/mast p combo. Best trenless cycle imo.

 

[Septicanon]

Liftbig33" pid='12491' dateline='1525894517:

Npp/mast p combo. Best trenless cycle imo.

With test base I assume?

 

[Liftbig33]

Septicanon" pid='12493' dateline='1525894605:

Liftbig33" pid='12491' dateline='1525894517:

Npp/mast p combo. Best trenless cycle imo.

With test base I assume?

Low test base. I did 250/week and then 500/500 npp mast p

 

[Septicanon]

Liftbig33" pid='12495' dateline='1525895090:

Septicanon" pid='12493' dateline='1525894605:

Liftbig33" pid='12491' dateline='1525894517:

Npp/mast p combo. Best trenless cycle imo.

With test base I assume?

Low test base. I did 250/week and then 500/500 npp mast p

I would but MPB so RIP hair. I thought mast was only for aesthetics?

 

[AQualityPoop]

High dose Epistane is like Tren Jr. Awesome aggression and strength out of it too.

 

[Septicanon]

AQualityPoop" pid='12498' dateline='1525896586:

High dose Epistane is like Tren Jr. Awesome aggression and strength out of it too.

Thats p cool as epi is legal here. What dose? And how is it on hair

 

[Liftbig33]

Septicanon" pid='12501' dateline='1525897190:

AQualityPoop" pid='12498' dateline='1525896586:

High dose Epistane is like Tren Jr. Awesome aggression and strength out of it too.

Thats p cool as epi is legal here. What dose? And how is it on hair

I didn’t have issues with hair loss on mast and baldness runs in my family. Everyone is different, though.

 

[flashpass123]

Septicanon" pid='12489' dateline='1525893231:

So I kind of overdid this bulk and I’m like halfway through (test E/C doesn’t start to shine for me until week 10-11); however, if I turn this into a cut now I’ll lose the benefits of when test really hits. I have like 10 vials of tren lying around but scared to start due to my moderate asthma. Any other agents strong enough for calorie partitioning/ recomp? I was able to on my first test cycle (was gaining a lot of weight while losing fat) but I warrant it was either contamianted with some tren (had HORRIBLE breathing difficulties on it and had to start prednisone) or it was ridiculously overdosed.

Who you get your test from?

 

[Septicanon]

flashpass123" pid='12507' dateline='1525900458:

Septicanon" pid='12489' dateline='1525893231:

So I kind of overdid this bulk and I’m like halfway through (test E/C doesn’t start to shine for me until week 10-11); however, if I turn this into a cut now I’ll lose the benefits of when test really hits. I have like 10 vials of tren lying around but scared to start due to my moderate asthma. Any other agents strong enough for calorie partitioning/ recomp? I was able to on my first test cycle (was gaining a lot of weight while losing fat) but I warrant it was either contamianted with some tren (had HORRIBLE breathing difficulties on it and had to start prednisone) or it was ridiculously overdosed.

Who you get your test from?

The pharmacy

 

[DrTonyHuge]

Sdrol can help recomp nicely, had good success with it on 600mg/wk Test E as well. Low dose tren is great as well, if you have asthma consider trying singulair; I never needed it and have had bronchial issues forever but some of my buddies swear by it.

 

[AQualityPoop]

Septicanon" pid='12501' dateline='1525897190:

AQualityPoop" pid='12498' dateline='1525896586:

High dose Epistane is like Tren Jr. Awesome aggression and strength out of it too.

Thats p cool as epi is legal here. What dose? And how is it on hair

I personally feel 50mg for 6 weeks is the sweet spot. I tried 75mg for a week and the gains were wicked but my liver values were screwed even with 1G of Tudca.

 

[Septicanon]

DrTonyHuge" pid='12529' dateline='1525910116:

Sdrol can help recomp nicely, had good success with it on 600mg/wk Test E as well. Low dose tren is great as well, if you have asthma consider trying singulair; I never needed it and have had bronchial issues forever but some of my buddies swear by it.

I’m on Singulair but even now it does little for me. What dose sdrol did you use? I have a bottle lying here but heard horror stories about liver.

 

[Subtren21]

Personal Experience:

Nothing beats tren for what your talking about IMO. Bu I’m also assuming “recomp” means losing fat while still staying full looking (this is usually a result of nitrogen retention and Intra-cellular fluids staying high) and being able to still slowly increase muscle gains. Tren has always allowed me to lean out while looking super “dry” but not loss any of the weight from my bulk (even if it is just some water retention). I have never found any drug that has allowed me to lose fat while gaining muscle at the same rate because the body is almost never good at doing both at the same time. Usually you’re doing one or the other and almost always to the detriment of the other one that isn’t the focus. The beauty of all anabolics is they will protect the muscle (and in some instances if all variables are in you favor) gain muscle while losing fat to one degree or another. Tren is exceptional at this.

Melt experience is just what was mentioned here, a compound known for gaining mass like Deca or NPP (less water retention in my experience with NPP) and a compound that helps manage estrogen effects and water retention (most call this a “drying effect”) like Masteron, EQ, or Primo. If you keep the Test and NPP doses low enough to promote good muscle gains (300-450 each week from my experience) without causing a lot of estrogen and prolactin fluctuations you shouldn’t gain a lot of excess water. Then add in the other agents at a good dose since they all promote muscle gains (just slower and smaller than say deca or tren). My experience is MastE at around 500-600 a week. I saw great gains and little no bloating.

These cycles also tend to give far less side-effects to me and I can run them longer as well (14-18 weeks). I think the key to remember is slow gains of quality are better in the long run both for appearance and long-term Health. I completely stay away from all orals personally. All they seem to do is trash my blood pressure, lipids, and liver values and never seem to give results that warrant the health effects.

Also, is that the real Dr. Tony Huge commenting on here or you just using his name!?! If so, you sir are a hero.

 

[Septicanon]

Subtren21" pid='12617' dateline='1525957325:

Personal Experience:

Nothing beats tren for what your talking about IMO. Bu I’m also assuming “recomp” means losing fat while still staying full looking (this is usually a result of nitrogen retention and Intra-cellular fluids staying high) and being able to still slowly increase muscle gains. Tren has always allowed me to lean out while looking super “dry” but not loss any of the weight from my bulk (even if it is just some water retention). I have never found any drug that has allowed me to lose fat while gaining muscle at the same rate because the body is almost never good at doing both at the same time. Usually you’re doing one or the other and almost always to the detriment of the other one that isn’t the focus. The beauty of all anabolics is they will protect the muscle (and in some instances if all variables are in you favor) gain muscle while losing fat to one degree or another. Tren is exceptional at this.

Melt experience is just what was mentioned here, a compound known for gaining mass like Deca or NPP (less water retention in my experience with NPP) and a compound that helps manage estrogen effects and water retention (most call this a “drying effect”) like Masteron, EQ, or Primo. If you keep the Test and NPP doses low enough to promote good muscle gains (300-450 each week from my experience) without causing a lot of estrogen and prolactin fluctuations you shouldn’t gain a lot of excess water. Then add in the other agents at a good dose since they all promote muscle gains (just slower and smaller than say deca or tren). My experience is MastE at around 500-600 a week. I saw great gains and little no bloating.

These cycles also tend to give far less side-effects to me and I can run them longer as well (14-18 weeks). I think the key to remember is slow gains of quality are better in the long run both for appearance and long-term Health. I completely stay away from all orals personally. All they seem to do is trash my blood pressure, lipids, and liver values and never seem to give results that warrant the health effects.

Also, is that the real Dr. Tony Huge commenting on here or you just using his name!?! If so, you sir are a hero.

Interesting, thanks for sharing. Like I said I don’t mind so much about a fleeting look at one point in time- just dont want to stop a bulk and have loss in strength, size becaise I’m too fat (i.e. now). Wluld that be doable on just test/deca? I see what youre trying to do with deca + mast making up for tren but mast would rape my haorline for little returns I think.

 

[Savagemannn]

Sep, are you still looking for some winny