Shit post about anabolic preworkouts

[keoking]

Suppose you take a Test or Tren or Dbol or whatever PWO before a workout. You get sick pumps, maybe hit some PRs.

Here’s the part I don’t understand or know anything about. In the long run, will you be bigger / stronger than if you hadn’t taken the PWO? Do you have to routinely / repeatedly use anabolic PWOs to see a meaningful improvement in your physique, or is intermittent usage enough to bust plateaus and stimulate better gains (kind of like an anabolic refeed)?

Dunno. Sometimes it’s hard enough to manage sides and negative effects on a steady regimen of AAS. Adding in pulses of non-ester compounds seems risky, but I don’t know what the upside is.

 

[swoleassnigga]

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Suppose you take a Test or Tren or Dbol or whatever PWO before a workout. You get sick pumps, maybe hit some PRs.

Here’s the part I don’t understand or know anything about. In the long run, will you be bigger / stronger than if you hadn’t taken the PWO? Do you have to routinely / repeatedly use anabolic PWOs to see a meaningful improvement in your physique, or is intermittent usage enough to bust plateaus and stimulate better gains (kind of like an anabolic refeed)?

Dunno. Sometimes it’s hard enough to manage sides and negative effects on a steady regimen of AAS. Adding in pulses of non-ester compounds seems risky, but I don’t know what the upside is.

This is something that I was wondering also. I recently Tried running a Tren A cycle. With in 3 days I saw Improvement. After 2 weeks I had to stop because of being severely out of breath and anxiety attacks, but in 10 days to 2 weeks made gains and got over a sticking point I had with my lower back because of a earlier injury. Many of the gains I made especially the lower back were permanent. I do blast and cruise. I use Test C for TRT. This is different then what you were asking but I think we can Experiment as long as we use common sense. I think in your case There would be more of a chance of lasting effects If you were on a TRT dose permanently. I am now thinking of using Tren A as a start to a Test or Deca cycle. maybe just by itself once in a while

 

[keoking]

After 2 weeks I had to stop because of being severely out of breath and anxiety attacks

I can’t help with the anxiety. Your brain don’t work right

As for the breathing, at 300mg TrenA per week I have to take Montelukast (Singulair) to get my cardio back to normal.

At 450mg or more, I have to also take Primatene before every workout, just to hit the weights. Cardio work is impossible.

 

[Pharmahgh]

keoking" pid='13960' dateline='1526750589:

Suppose you take a Test or Tren or Dbol or whatever PWO before a workout. You get sick pumps, maybe hit some PRs.

Here’s the part I don’t understand or know anything about. In the long run, will you be bigger / stronger than if you hadn’t taken the PWO? Do you have to routinely / repeatedly use anabolic PWOs to see a meaningful improvement in your physique, or is intermittent usage enough to bust plateaus and stimulate better gains (kind of like an anabolic refeed)?

Dunno. Sometimes it’s hard enough to manage sides and negative effects on a steady regimen of AAS. Adding in pulses of non-ester compounds seems risky, but I don’t know what the upside is.

Absolutely not. Its never the drug for me that has pushed me past being stuck. Its always a combination of nutrient partitioning and changing up my training. My main focus for training is always Hypertrophy. I Use a lot of time under tension, Super sets, giant sets,rest pauses ect.the only reason I would be concerned about getting stronger is because if I’m getting stronger I’m making gains. Of course the anabolics have to be in but I have made gains on very low doses. And Have made zero gains on very high doses in the past. Its about re-sensitizing my receptors this is when I make the most gains. But also re-sensitizing and staying insulin sensitized and making sure I’m not insulin resistant. So I do small cut diet to sensitize or after a show is when I grow the most and Its when Im on the least. Because my body is primed and ready for growth it absorbs everything I eat. Food is way more anabolic if you know how to prime your body to absorb and utilize it correctly. The most I grow is during a show prep and after a show for 2 months then I cruise on a TRT dose of test until all my bloods and blood pressure is normal again. then I bump to 500-750 mgs test and 600mgs of EQ thats it until prep again

 

[DNPstoney]

keoking" pid='13960' dateline='1526750589:

Suppose you take a Test or Tren or Dbol or whatever PWO before a workout. You get sick pumps, maybe hit some PRs.

Here’s the part I don’t understand or know anything about. In the long run, will you be bigger / stronger than if you hadn’t taken the PWO? Do you have to routinely / repeatedly use anabolic PWOs to see a meaningful improvement in your physique, or is intermittent usage enough to bust plateaus and stimulate better gains (kind of like an anabolic refeed)?

Dunno. Sometimes it’s hard enough to manage sides and negative effects on a steady regimen of AAS. Adding in pulses of non-ester compounds seems risky, but I don’t know what the upside is.

I think at a base level, definitely. If you are hitting PRs daily, or if the PWO motivate you to kick some ass at the gym rather that just walk through your workout, you are going to be adding more muscle mass in the long run.

Whether or not the no ester compounds play a significant role in building additional muscle mass is a bit harder. I would say probably some, but it would be almost impossible to tell the extent of the increase.

 

[Jeffg353]

keoking" pid='13960' dateline='1526750589:

Suppose you take a Test or Tren or Dbol or whatever PWO before a workout. You get sick pumps, maybe hit some PRs.

Here’s the part I don’t understand or know anything about. In the long run, will you be bigger / stronger than if you hadn’t taken the PWO? Do you have to routinely / repeatedly use anabolic PWOs to see a meaningful improvement in your physique, or is intermittent usage enough to bust plateaus and stimulate better gains (kind of like an anabolic refeed)?

Dunno. Sometimes it’s hard enough to manage sides and negative effects on a steady regimen of AAS. Adding in pulses of non-ester compounds seems risky, but I don’t know what the upside is.

I think it can be useful for breaking thru plateaus especially if it’s more of a mental block. Getting that extra boost or added aggression to hit the weights can give u that extra confidence to push thru to hit or surpass those PRs. Since PWOs are not like an everyday AAS I wouldn’t necessarily say they will help with significant gains.

U will have to take extra precautions to manage sides. Since they r usually ester-less forms they hit u all at once which means they can also cause estro spikes if it’s an aromatizable compound.

 

[10gramsuvtrenEOD]

swoleassnigga" pid='13963' dateline='1526752515:

After 2 weeks I had to stop because of being severely out of breath and anxiety attacks

I can’t help with the anxiety. Your brain don’t work right

As for the breathing, at 300mg TrenA per week I have to take Montelukast (Singulair) to get my cardio back to normal.

At 450mg or more, I have to also take Primatene before every workout, just to hit the weights. Cardio work is impossible.

i wish shit would do me like that so i can know what you pussies go through

also if you are taking whatever pre workout thats at least 5 days a week for most and is basically a cycle!

 

[Bearslovecheese]

If you take something and it allows you to perform the work, you’re going to rebuild and repair based on that work load and be stronger then before. If you get a crippling back pump, that’s your muscle filling with so much blood it can’t move or function properly without pain. That’s the kind of “swole” you want, swollen bloated muscle full of blood stretching the fascia. The fascia that covers our muscles is a growth limiter. I think, anecdotally, that’s why following a hypertrophy program works so well. Not just the training for hypertrophy, but the consistently training to pump the muscle and get it swollen and engorged so that the fascia is getting stretched out consistently and constantly. Also part of the synthol usage. Stretching the muscle with the inert oil and over time the body absorbs it and the muscle has that little extra bit of room to grow and swell into.

I think it’s all about the mental edge though. You took that, you’re superman now, and you crush weights. The other stuff is the long game. But if taking PWO or orals PWO gets you fucking jacked up and ready, then you’ve already won when you walk out the front door. The mind is the MOST important weapon you have.