Test/Tren for third cycle

[Ren]

Hey guys.

So I’m planning my third cycle and wanted to incorporate Tren this time around. I’ve done 500 test E for 16 weeks and 600 test E for 16 weeks (cruising in between at 125wk). My goals for this blast is a clean bulk because I’m pretty satasifies with my current physique, but just want put on a bit more mass and stay lean. I was thinking something along the lines of 600 Test E // 400 Tren A , but would love to hear your guys expertease on dosage, length, orals, ect. Oh and on 600 test I take Adex EOD and with the Tren would have caber in hand.

 

[NattyLite]

Sounds like a good bulk cycle to me, although I would match esters. Using ace for the first tren cycle is probably the safest choice just for the flexibility although I prefer E just for less pinning. I like staying with a dose of test that’s familiar, less e2 potential bullshit to deal with. I’d buy enough tren to go up a bit from that 400, you know just in case .

Add an oral if you’re feeling froggy but you’re not going to need it. Personally I’d forgo the oral and add some Mast instead.

 

[Ren]

Thanks! I’ve read that I should start with Ace Incase of dropping it early, though I would much rather use E! Are people over exaggerating about low/moderate Tren mental sides? Might be a strange alalogy, but I’m like a human golden retriever- super mellow.

Okay so since I’ve dialed in my 600 test E2/AI dosing what about 600 year / 400 Tren and then bump it up to match the test dose later in the blast? And any recommendations for how long to blast for? I really loved the 15-16 weeks, but that could be a bit long for Tren.

 

[NattyLite]

I don’t think they’re exaggerating the sides, I think sides are individually-based. For example most users report a huge increase in libido, I experienced a modest increase. I never soaked my sheets in sweat or got into crazy arguments with my tranny gf but plenty have done both. This doesn’t mean don’t worry about it, it means you have to prepare yourself for these types of sides. You might be chill but you don’t know how you’ll react to tren until you try it. Be cognizant of the typical sides and be open to altering the dose or dropping the compound if they become detrimental.

I would get tren E and start at 350/wk. Leave it there longer than you think you should. Lots of threads saying “is my tren bunk? I’ve been on two weeks”. I’m on tren E 350/wk right now and the results are obvious at that dose. After 6 weeks go to 525 and go from there… If you can tolerate 600/600 it’ll be a great cycle. I like 12 week cycles at least, 16 is cool with test being as mild as it is. Tren you will have to see how well you can tolerate it. Just grab an extra vial

 

[DNPstoney]

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I don’t think they’re exaggerating the sides, I think sides are individually-based. For example most users report a huge increase in libido, I experienced a modest increase. I never soaked my sheets in sweat or got into crazy arguments with my tranny gf but plenty have done both. This doesn’t mean don’t worry about it, it means you have to prepare yourself for these types of sides. You might be chill but you don’t know how you’ll react to tren until you try it. Be cognizant of the typical sides and be open to altering the dose or dropping the compound if they become detrimental.

I would get tren E and start at 350/wk. Leave it there longer than you think you should. Lots of threads saying “is my tren bunk? I’ve been on two weeks”. I’m on tren E 350/wk right now and the results are obvious at that dose. After 6 weeks go to 525 and go from there… If you can tolerate 600/600 it’ll be a great cycle. I like 12 week cycles at least, 16 is cool with test being as mild as it is. Tren you will have to see how well you can tolerate it. Just grab an extra vial

How much Tren were you taking? IMO, if you aren’t getting into fights with your tranny GF daily, you need to up the tren.

 

[NattyLite]

I started at and ran half the cycle at 350/wk ace. Went to 525, and didn’t last long there before going to 700 until I ran out. The craziest thing that happened was I grew some calves.

 

[VicMuscle223]

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I don’t think they’re exaggerating the sides, I think sides are individually-based. For example most users report a huge increase in libido, I experienced a modest increase. I never soaked my sheets in sweat or got into crazy arguments with my tranny gf but plenty have done both. This doesn’t mean don’t worry about it, it means you have to prepare yourself for these types of sides. You might be chill but you don’t know how you’ll react to tren until you try it. Be cognizant of the typical sides and be open to altering the dose or dropping the compound if they become detrimental.

Agree with the view that sides vary based on individuals. Not getting crazy tranny thoughts depression nor over aggression (outside of the gym obviously, different story when in the lab). increased Sweats, lethargy and carb burning are abundant tho, but pretty harmless in comparison to the harsher sides others have experienced. Running 700mg ED of Ace , ymmv. I’m also running 500wk Mast E alongside so not sure if it’s helping mitigate some mental sides of Tren, if at all

 

[system]

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I don’t think they’re exaggerating the sides, I think sides are individually-based.

110% this. Just like everything in this game, it’s so individual. Take a look at the least/favorite injection site thread we had - some people can’t even use sites that others prefer by a mile. We’re all so so so different in how we respond to each compound, injection site, dose, AI, you name it. We see people who run tren and get the cough on a routine basis while others run it for months straight and never get it once. These examples run across every drug and every side. You’ll find people all over the spectrum, from no sides at all to severe ones. I damn wish we could have a gold standard for sides and all be able to relate and be like, yo, your estrogen is 150? X amount of AI X times per week will put you right at 30! Shit would be amazing. Instead we all have to fuck around with repeated blood work and turn ourselves into our own guinea pig

 

[dudebro73]

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I started at and ran half the cycle at 350/wk ace. Went to 525, and didn’t last long there before going to 700 until I ran out. The craziest thing that happened was I grew some calves.

Grew calves? GREW CALVES!? I’ve heard the legends this was possible but I never believed them…
Looks like what we got here is a gotdang super-responder boyz! IFBB Pro material fo’sho!

 

[Animutiddies]

If you want to bulk, Tren will be your worst enemy. It’s pretty powerful as a cutting cycle drug and in the dosage you plan on taking it’ll probably eat up anything you consume and at most you’ll just recomp but probably end up getting leaner and not tipping the scale any higher.
Also if you’ve never run Tren before, why start so high?
Start off at 50mg eod and enjoy the sweet gains of low dose Tren. See if you can handle the sides. Then for future runs, work with a bit more each run or keep it low and just run economical cycles.
Unless you are planning to step on stage or compete in a strength sport, there is no need to dose Tren that high. At low doses you will seriously see amazing results and probably zero nipple issues which is obviously the one we’re all most worried about aside from things like blood pressure-related death.
Also it’ll spread your supply out so, like I said, it’s economical! No need to try and cram all of your life’s gains into a few months or a year; Run the lowest effective dose (note the words I chose- Lowest EFFECTIVE dose) you can and up it when you notice the gains aren’t coming as quickly anymore and the sides are still manageable.