Any good reason why you need 1g of test?

[alphaproject]

One of my gym bro’s tells me he’s going to blast 1g of test and barely looks like he works out. Sure he’s already heavier than me but I look like I workout a lot at least and I’m on a very moderate cruise. Plus… I’m old… so I can just cruise at 250mg or lower if I choose however he’s on 600mg now… I can’t see the reason on why any man would need 1g unless you never leave the gym.

Is it just me, or is he wasting money. He is 25 yrs old.

 

[Masterofron]

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One of my gym bro’s tells me he’s going to blast 1g of test and barely looks like he works out. Sure he’s already heavier than me but I look like I workout a lot at least and I’m on a very moderate cruise. Plus… I’m old… so I can just cruise at 250mg or lower if I choose however he’s on 600mg now… I can’t see the reason on why any man would need 1g unless you never leave the gym.

Is it just me, or is he wasting money. He is 25 yrs old.

1 gram of test is a common dosage for guys that have adequate training and AAS usage experience. Sounds like he has neither. Tell him pct and take some time learning how everything works. That includes his diet and training as well.

 

[pichriana]

There is a point of diminishing returns; but that is different for everyone and different based on different compounds and esters. Then again the drugs are only as good as your nutrition and training.

If I ran a gram of test, I’d aromatise like fucking crazy and would probably need to take 25mg of asin ED. I’ve only ever fucked around with as much at 750mg Test-E a week and I did not experience any more gains than when I was running 500-600 (same source, gear was not underdosed), just held more water and sweated a fuck ton. Skin got more oily too and started getting acne on my ass cheeks, which never happened, even when I was on tren and dbol.

 

[alphaproject]

Yea, pretty much the response I thought you’d guys would give. I don’t think he is the type to listen to me as I’ve tried to ask him why 1g of test and he just said… why not? I put on a solid 20 pounds on in 4 months with 2 mini cycles of dbol and 250mg of Test Cyp. I’m pretty much happy with that give or take a few pounds and I think he said his back has a lot of acne from the test already and yet he wants to up that dose. I guess he’s just going to have to learn the hard way. More test does not mean more muscle. I think he observes bloodwork numbers and assumes the higher your test the more muscle you’re going to gain. A fool and his money are soon parted I guess.

 

[system]

I still haven’t found a gram of anything injectable (combined) to be necessary for the level I am currently at. I am his same age with nearly 5 years of steroid experience. In my opinion it sounds like he should not be using anything, but if he were to insist, something like 4-500 mg is plenty IME–unless, of course, you’re downplaying his size (but I doubt you are, lol).

With this said, for people who are serious about either bodybuilding or powerlifting, 1 gram of test isn’t unheard of by any means, and it’s nowhere near what has been used by the more advanced users.

On paper, yes, more drugs equal more gains, but that’s only when other factors are aligned (such as diet/training, and clearly this dude doesn’t have those), and there’s obviously a point of little return, especially for more novice/intermediate level users where more drugs just aren’t necessary for substantial size to be packed on.

 

[alphaproject]

I’m not really downplaying his size muscle-wise… he is taller than me, weights more… but is not a very fit looking guy compared to me.
Plus… it’s pretty much his first bulking cycle. I’ve never heard of a guy who jumps straight into 600mg, which he did… let alone 1g.
Most guys start out with lower dosages, get used to how things feel and such…then adapt. He’s not perhaps a total noob in the gym but he looks natty
compared to me at my low TRT+ dose. I currently take about 300mg of Test U…I’m not a fan of it. But I tried it out as a favor to a friend who wanted to trade me a test P vial. On top of that since it’s so slow to releasing I’ve taken another 250g of Test E. But in my case I’m not technically taking 500 all at once.
Then when I felt really sore, which was strange I took a few days of 100mg of Test P which is in and out fairly quickly.
This is why I generally don’t like Test U as it doesn’t seem to “kick in” it just lingers on for awhile. When I was on about 375mg Test E only, I never got sore
doing about the same amount of gym time. So yea 1g of test to me…that just seems insane. What do I know. I’ve been on stuff now for awhile now because I got on it
because I’m 45, he’s 25. Big difference. I can just cruise at 250mg of Test E or C and feel fine. I only up it a bit if I hit the gym EXTRA hard or Extra long.
Plus he also plans of going on Dbol as well on top of this 1g…rotfl. He might even stack that with proviron, which I myself and going to test out.

 

[Booger]

1. Becuz
2. Because not a pussy
3. Because a real man
4. Because eat Arimidex like Tic Tacs
5. Because got to make them gain son!
6. Because more is always better
7. And because what would Rich Piana do?

 

[alphaproject]

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1. Becuz
2. Because not a pussy
3. Because a real man
4. Because eat Arimidex like Tic Tacs
5. Because got to make them gain son!
6. Because more is always better
7. And because what would Rich Piana do?

Very informative.

 

[timmyxxx187]

sounds like he is set on it. try to mentor him and help him out, assuming he is your buddy and you care for him. help me get his diet and training on track, make sure he has his AI, Nolva, PCT, HCG, TUDCA and all those ancillaries lined up. He will probably respond better to you guiding him and watching out for him as opposed you telling him not do something, I’ve ran into the same thing. My buddy wanted me to get him some Winstrol and wanted to run 50mg Winny only for 6 weeks and I was like “Yea bro no sweat, lets get some test, PCT etc” and he basically told me I was goddamn idiot, he was going to do “Winny only, straight fut burn cycle, no PCT because I’m going to taper it last 2 weeks” and wouldnt listen to a damn thing I would tell him… kind of pissed me because he was being such a cock sucker about it, I about just got him the winny so I could say “todaso, fuckin todaso”

 

[alphaproject]

Sounds like he’s stocking up on other things too… I just thought 1g so early was a bit excessive that’s all. I’m on FAR, FAR less but I have a few orals in the mix and I’m not having many side effects. He got th ePCT, the AIs and Tudca. I think he’s gonna be mad oily though.

 

[timmyxxx187]

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Sounds like he’s stocking up on other things too… I just thought 1g so early was a bit excessive that’s all. I’m on FAR, FAR less but I have a few orals in the mix and I’m not having many side effects. He got th ePCT, the AIs and Tudca. I think he’s gonna be mad oily though.

oh he will be lol. hopefully he will learn… maybe show him this site??? show him that a bunch of people agree with you? I dunno man, ya cant change people but you can always help guide him and allow him to make his own changes in due time.

 

[trenbolgona]

I used to think more is better too, but just got more sides than results. Now I use as much as I have to use to progress. I like to use low doses of synergistic compounds instead of blasting one at high doses too.

 

[alphaproject]

He’s taking ALOT of Aromasin too. I think he said 25mg a DAY! I’m like WHOA man, I take 12.5 twice a week. Sometimes I mix in 1 Aromasin and 1 .25 Adex. Whatever doesn’t crash my estrogen, I can usually tell with my elbows.

 

[CC19]

lol at first cycle and jumping straight to a gram of test how boring

 

[BlackBroly]

I’ve never ran a gram of test in the 4 years I’ve been on gear and I have packed on plenty of muscle. You really don’t need that much to make substantial gains, but I guess it all depends on how you respond to anabolic substances. Some people are better responders than others. For reference I’m 6 feet 230 pounds, and low enough body fat to see a 6 pack. 500mg/week plus 50mg of anavar is all I’m running at the moment and still making progress depending on my nutrition and consistency.

 

[alphaproject]

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I’ve never ran a gram of test in the 4 years I’ve been on gear and I have packed on plenty of muscle. You really don’t need that much to make substantial gains, but I guess it all depends on how you respond to anabolic substances. Some people are better responders than others. For reference I’m 6 feet 230 pounds, and low enough body fat to see a 6 pack. 500mg/week plus 50mg of anavar is all I’m running at the moment and still making progress depending on my nutrition and consistency.

I completely understand. My body seemed to take to it like a moth to a flame. Sadly my natty limit was pretty low despite working out the exact same. I simply could not really build the same amount of muscle no matter what, no matter how hard I tried. My highest natty was 139 doing tons of 8x8 workouts. Then boom…injured… This took about 1.5 years to get too from 127-128 of not working out much. I however have always been thin. I put on 12 pounds on dbol alone. Then switched to a TRT dose of 250mg. I’m nearly 160 now, biggest I’ve ever been at 5 foot 7. So yea… I hit my genetic limit a long time ago I just didn’t know it. I knew I was a true “hard gainer” even though I know some people think they don’t exist but just like I couldn’t hit 160 without gear, I couldn’t hit The Rock’s body either… that’s just not my body type. I did hit my chest so hard on Thanksgiving that I got sore so I did an extra shot of Test U since I had it laying around but that’s so slow at release but it’s in there floating around. So I did do 500 in total just different release times. Needless to say after 4 hours in the gym I’m not sore as of today. Had I not been on anything I’d have been dead… rotfl.

 

[Oorn]

I usually cruise at 150 and go anywhere from 250-500 on a blast. I’ve ran higher test a few times. Everybody really does respond differently.

I run 600+ if I feel like I’m not healing quickly, high test is amazing for my recovery. I looked lean on 1g even though I’m a HEAVY aromatizer.

Glad I’ve ran high test, learned what it does and doesn’t do for me. I’ll do out again for sure