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Anyone have experience with RU58841?

Tyrone

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I’m considering getting it because Anavar of all things is making me shed pretty bad right now. Anyone have experience with it?
 
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Also in for replies. It sounds almost too good to be true. RU+MINOX and some nice Oils like EMU Oil should work perfectly together. Gonna order me some of that in my next raws-order.

The only thing that makes me a bit wary: You gotta stay on the regiment for everyday, or you’ll loose the hair once you are off. Small price to pay though.
 
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works alright but there are sides. Contrary to belief, RU will enter the bloodstream and act systemically. Chest pain and dry eyes/blurry vision often occur from reducing systemic DHT. It also revoked my gyno. 60mg of daily ralox could barely keep it under control.

never touching that shit again
 
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Just take nizoral and some topical s5 cream or ru58841 on cycle. You don’t need to run it when youre off cycle. Don’t take minox or rogaine because once you come off you lose all your hair.
 
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bigmamba" pid='12808' dateline='1526054847:
works alright but there are sides. Contrary to belief, RU will enter the bloodstream and act systemically. Chest pain and dry eyes/blurry vision often occur from reducing systemic DHT. It also revoked my gyno. 60mg of daily ralox could barely keep it under control.

never touching that shit again
Wait so it cured your gyno? Shouldn’t reducing DHT INCREASE gyno? That’s odd.
 
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RU works well to prevent DHT related hairloss.

RU can’t act systemically. It only affects DHT that comes directly in contact with it. It’s nothing like Finasteride or Dutasteride. It’s not even like minoxidil. It also has a 1 hour half-life. By the time it penetrates your skin to reach the bloodstream, it’s almost totally degraded into nothing.

This is purely a nocebo effect, that plenty of people will themselves to have on a host of drugs, but hair loss drugs in particular.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5264352/
in these subjects who withdrew from the study due to sexual adverse events, 50% of finasteride users experienced continual sexual side effects after discontinuing finasteride, while 59% of placebo subjects noted continual sexual side effects
Note that the placebo group experienced a higher rate of erectile dysfunction than the group actually taking Finasteride.

However, I don’t know if your anavar shed is actually permanent hair loss, or just TE. Tren for instance causes both. Even if you prevent permanent hair loss with RU, you will almost always get a shed with Tren. But that’s a TE shed and that hair comes back. RU58841 will only prevent permanent hair loss. It doesn’t prevent TE.

Anyway, I’ve had good success with both RU58841 and Dutasteride with no notable side effects. Of course I’m also not a hypochondriac. If you are a hypochondriac, understand that hair loss drugs will ruin your life. Not chemically, but your nocebo will be overwhelming. Simply believing you’re taking a hair loss drug(even if it’s really a sugar pill) will cause brain fog, erectile dysfunction, and thoughts of suicide. Please don’t use RU58841, Dutasteride, or Finasteride if you’re a head case.
 
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Does anyone have a source on RU? I haven’t been diligently searching for it yet but it’s nice to have on hand in case my Nizoral and Castor Oil isn’t enough
 
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PissedPajamas" pid='13403' dateline='1526405155:
Does anyone have a source on RU? I haven’t been diligently searching for it yet but it’s nice to have on hand in case my Nizoral and Castor Oil isn’t enough
PPL and Greenwardlabs have it. Quite cheap, easy to make your own Solution. Minox as well. Fuck that overpriced Rogaine stuff.
 
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Greenward and PPL both charge way too much for RU. It’s literally cheaper from Anageninc and Chemyo. $160 for 10g from Greenward, $135 from Anageninc, and $120 from Chemyo.

I’ve used Chemyo in the past, but I got tired of that insane 200% markup. I just ordered 15g from Lyphar directly(they are to my knowledge both Kane and Chemyo’s actual original manufacturer). For 10g it would be $70.

No real reason to pay middlemen for raws of perfectly legal compounds.
 
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Tyrone" pid='13342' dateline='1526356358:
bigmamba" pid='12808' dateline='1526054847:
works alright but there are sides. Contrary to belief, RU will enter the bloodstream and act systemically. Chest pain and dry eyes/blurry vision often occur from reducing systemic DHT. It also revoked my gyno. 60mg of daily ralox could barely keep it under control.

never touching that shit again
Wait so it cured your gyno? Shouldn’t reducing DHT INCREASE gyno? That’s odd.
meant re-induced sorry
 
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“Nuts2Butts” pid=‘13392’ dateline=‘1526400045’ said:
RU works well to prevent DHT related hairloss.

RU can’t act systemically. It only affects DHT that comes directly in contact with it. It’s nothing like Finasteride or Dutasteride. It’s not even like minoxidil. It also has a 1 hour half-life. By the time it penetrates your skin to reach the bloodstream, it’s almost totally degraded into nothing.

It definitely goes systematic.

“RU58841, topical formulation, is not entirely safe; if application continued too much, anti-androgenic effect appears. This was done in pregnant rabbit, topical application of RU58841 produced demascularization of pups. No data available in MPB human. My studies on monkeys showed no shrinkage of the prostate (by MRI) but reduction of lobular size occurred in the seminal vesicles.” - Dr Hideo Uno

I think one of the lead researchers on the subject have a bit more credibility than some random dude on SST.
 
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RU goes systemic for many, myself included. I know the difference between placebo because I’ve also tried topical spiro (anti androgen) and had 0 side effects. I got puffy nipples and shortness of breath with RU.


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Just take nizoral and some topical s5 cream or ru58841 on cycle. You don’t need to run it when youre off cycle. Don’t take minox or rogaine because once you come off you lose all your hair.
Have you used S5 cream personally and noticed benefit from it? I’ve used it on cycle and don’t know if it did much, but I have a full head of hair to begin with so I shed some regardless.
 
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RU goes systemic and anyone who says otherwise is full of shit. Period
 
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