Aromasin fucking up my gains!?

[Liftingforlife]

I’m 3 weeks in to my Test E 500mg week cycle and last week I took 12.5mg asin monday and thursday but on friday and saturday I could barely sleep and had intense hot flashes. I looked this up which says signs of menopause in women from low estrogen! I slept better on Sunday. Is an AI necessary? I don’t like the way it was making me feel. I don’t have bloat, oily skin, or anything like that.

 

[yelruP]

I had the same thing happen when I first started running test. Jumped the gun on AIs. The best way to figure out what dosage works for you is bloodwork. I can get away with .125mg of adex 2x a week and be good on 500mg of test, but only know that because of bloodwork. I usually don’t have to start adex until week 5-6 of long esters either. Everyone’s different though, do you plan on running bloods anytime soon?

 

[Masterofron]

Goddamnit OP. You don’t need AI yet. It’s too fucking soon. I don’t even want to explain why, but I’ll solve all your issues in one simple sentance- Do not use AI until you feel you need it.

“How do I know when I need it?”

Your niples are getting puffy and they itch. Maybe some acne and bloating as well.

Good luck!

 

[Liftingforlife]

yelruP" pid='34382' dateline='1545082824:

I had the same thing happen when I first started running test. Jumped the gun on AIs. The best way to figure out what dosage works for you is bloodwork. I can get away with .125mg of adex 2x a week and be good on 500mg of test, but only know that because of bloodwork. I usually don’t have to start adex until week 5-6 of long esters either. Everyone’s different though, do you plan on running bloods anytime soon?

Yea I plan to get bloods in two weeks, is that enough wait time?

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Masterofron" pid='34385' dateline='1545083226:

Goddamnit OP. You don’t need AI yet. It’s too fucking soon. I don’t even want to explain why, but I’ll solve all your issues in one simple sentance- Do not use AI until you feel you need it.

“How do I know when I need it?”

Your niples are getting puffy and they itch. Maybe some acne and bloating as well.

Good luck!

Thank bro, I won’t use an AI until I feel like I need it!

 

[yelruP]

Liftingforlife" pid='34391' dateline='1545085555:

yelruP" pid='34382' dateline='1545082824:

I had the same thing happen when I first started running test. Jumped the gun on AIs. The best way to figure out what dosage works for you is bloodwork. I can get away with .125mg of adex 2x a week and be good on 500mg of test, but only know that because of bloodwork. I usually don’t have to start adex until week 5-6 of long esters either. Everyone’s different though, do you plan on running bloods anytime soon?

Yea I plan to get bloods in two weeks, is that enough wait time?

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Masterofron" pid='34385' dateline='1545083226:

Goddamnit OP. You don’t need AI yet. It’s too fucking soon. I don’t even want to explain why, but I’ll solve all your issues in one simple sentance- Do not use AI until you feel you need it.

“How do I know when I need it?”

Your niples are getting puffy and they itch. Maybe some acne and bloating as well.

Good luck!

Thank bro, I won’t use an AI until I feel like I need it!

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Around week 6 would be ideal but should be good. Just lay off the AI until sides show up like master suggested. Did you get your gear from here? Most sources will credit ya for the bloodwork, you can check to see their timeframes on credit in the source pages.

 

[Masterofron]

Liftingforlife" pid='34391' dateline='1545085555:

yelruP" pid='34382' dateline='1545082824:

I had the same thing happen when I first started running test. Jumped the gun on AIs. The best way to figure out what dosage works for you is bloodwork. I can get away with .125mg of adex 2x a week and be good on 500mg of test, but only know that because of bloodwork. I usually don’t have to start adex until week 5-6 of long esters either. Everyone’s different though, do you plan on running bloods anytime soon?

Yea I plan to get bloods in two weeks, is that enough wait time?

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Masterofron" pid='34385' dateline='1545083226:

Goddamnit OP. You don’t need AI yet. It’s too fucking soon. I don’t even want to explain why, but I’ll solve all your issues in one simple sentance- Do not use AI until you feel you need it.

“How do I know when I need it?”

Your niples are getting puffy and they itch. Maybe some acne and bloating as well.

Good luck!

Thank bro, I won’t use an AI until I feel like I need it!

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Controlling estro is something 90% of this forum can’t do correctly lol. It’s a trial and error process, as using gear and cycling is in general.You have to learn your body, and learn how it reacts with all the exogenous hormones, AI’s, and other related drugs that we take haha. It’s more difficult because no matter how much you read, or who tells you what, all you are getting from it is a general guideline, as everyone is different and our bodies don’t all react the same way. For me personally, I need 1mg of adex (or equivalent 12.5mg aromasin) every other day, on only 500mgs of test. You may be the same way, or you might be able to run 1000mgs of test, 500 deca, and maybe some Dbol, on no AI haha.

Give your body time to adjust fully to the test, and then act accordingly. That goes for basically every compound/drug you use.

 

[Pharmahgh]

Masterofron" pid='34385' dateline='1545083226:

Goddamnit OP. You don’t need AI yet. It’s too fucking soon. I don’t even want to explain why, but I’ll solve all your issues in one simple sentance- Do not use AI until you feel you need it.

“How do I know when I need it?”

Your niples are getting puffy and they itch. Maybe some acne and bloating as well.

Good luck!

yelruP" pid='34395' dateline='1545086735:

Liftingforlife" pid='34391' dateline='1545085555:

yelruP" pid='34382' dateline='1545082824:

I had the same thing happen when I first started running test. Jumped the gun on AIs. The best way to figure out what dosage works for you is bloodwork. I can get away with .125mg of adex 2x a week and be good on 500mg of test, but only know that because of bloodwork. I usually don’t have to start adex until week 5-6 of long esters either. Everyone’s different though, do you plan on running bloods anytime soon?

Yea I plan to get bloods in two weeks, is that enough wait time?

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Masterofron" pid='34385' dateline='1545083226:

Goddamnit OP. You don’t need AI yet. It’s too fucking soon. I don’t even want to explain why, but I’ll solve all your issues in one simple sentance- Do not use AI until you feel you need it.

“How do I know when I need it?”

Your niples are getting puffy and they itch. Maybe some acne and bloating as well.

Good luck!

Thank bro, I won’t use an AI until I feel like I need it!

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Around week 6 would be ideal but should be good. Just lay off the AI until sides show up like master suggested. Did you get your gear from here? Most sources will credit ya for the bloodwork, you can check to see their timeframes on credit in the source pages.

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exactly this. I see this all to often. 500mg test E and your only 3 weeks in. You may not even need an AI with that dose. If you do I would add a very low dose of nolvadex or rolax

 

[Giantnerd11]

Didn’t you also freak out over a little bit of dbol… get out of your head man your shit is psychosomatic. Stop looking for symptoms you are on a mild dose of test you could probably take no ai and just end up moonfaced and oily but with no gyno. But I highly doubt you crashed your estro with a little bit of asin in only one week. Unless you overreacted to the dbol with a massive dose and even then I doubt you crashed your estro that fast with asin which has a diminishing returns after 25mg, if you were using letro that would be another story. Just relax get out of your head and lift weights.

 

[mcjooce]

Masterofron" pid='34385' dateline='1545083226:

Goddamnit OP. You don’t need AI yet. It’s too fucking soon. I don’t even want to explain why, but I’ll solve all your issues in one simple sentance- Do not use AI until you feel you need it.

“How do I know when I need it?”

Your niples are getting puffy and they itch. Maybe some acne and bloating as well.

Good luck!

Would you include increased anxiety in this list of when to use AI?

 

[Masterofron]

mcjooce" pid='34447' dateline='1545112648:

Masterofron" pid='34385' dateline='1545083226:

Goddamnit OP. You don’t need AI yet. It’s too fucking soon. I don’t even want to explain why, but I’ll solve all your issues in one simple sentance- Do not use AI until you feel you need it.

“How do I know when I need it?”

Your niples are getting puffy and they itch. Maybe some acne and bloating as well.

Good luck!

Would you include increased anxiety in this list of when to use AI?

Look man, if your nipples aren’t fuckin sore, puffy, or itchy, your estro is fine. Anxiety can be could be caused by 10000 different things in your life. The answer to your question is yes, high estrogen can cause anxiety. Low estrogen can cause it too. Having normal estrogen levels can it depending on how damn far a person overthinks this. Since we are here, share with us your current symptoms/general feeling, as well as your cycle and cycle history.

OP change the title to low/high estro therapy discussion, and @“Swole Guacamole” pin this shot because it’s a daily topic.

 

[mcjooce]

Masterofron" pid='34465' dateline='1545133116:

mcjooce" pid='34447' dateline='1545112648:

Masterofron" pid='34385' dateline='1545083226:

Goddamnit OP. You don’t need AI yet. It’s too fucking soon. I don’t even want to explain why, but I’ll solve all your issues in one simple sentance- Do not use AI until you feel you need it.

“How do I know when I need it?”

Your niples are getting puffy and they itch. Maybe some acne and bloating as well.

Good luck!

Would you include increased anxiety in this list of when to use AI?

Look man, if your nipples aren’t fuckin sore, puffy, or itchy, your estro is fine. Anxiety can be could be caused by 10000 different things in your life. The answer to your question is yes, high estrogen can cause anxiety. Low estrogen can cause it too. Having normal estrogen levels can it depending on how damn far a person overthinks this. Since we are here, share with us your current symptoms/general feeling, as well as your cycle and cycle history.

OP change the title to low/high estro therapy discussion, and @“Swole Guacamole” pin this shot because it’s a daily topic.

I’m not prone to gyno. I’m running 1 gram test and 500 trest and I’m bloated AF, unusually anxious (which I agree could be anything) and my dick works fine, but my libido is way too low for that cycle (which, again, could be anxiety-based). My nipples are perfectly normal.

 

[CC19]

Did you do any research before pulling the trigger on steroids

 

[Masterofron]

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Masterofron" pid='34465' dateline='1545133116:

mcjooce" pid='34447' dateline='1545112648:

Masterofron" pid='34385' dateline='1545083226:

Goddamnit OP. You don’t need AI yet. It’s too fucking soon. I don’t even want to explain why, but I’ll solve all your issues in one simple sentance- Do not use AI until you feel you need it.

“How do I know when I need it?”

Your niples are getting puffy and they itch. Maybe some acne and bloating as well.

Good luck!

Would you include increased anxiety in this list of when to use AI?

Look man, if your nipples aren’t fuckin sore, puffy, or itchy, your estro is fine. Anxiety can be could be caused by 10000 different things in your life. The answer to your question is yes, high estrogen can cause anxiety. Low estrogen can cause it too. Having normal estrogen levels can it depending on how damn far a person overthinks this. Since we are here, share with us your current symptoms/general feeling, as well as your cycle and cycle history.

OP change the title to low/high estro therapy discussion, and @“Swole Guacamole” pin this shot because it’s a daily topic.

I’m not prone to gyno. I’m running 1 gram test and 500 trest and I’m bloated AF, unusually anxious (which I agree could be anything) and my dick works fine, but my libido is way too low for that cycle (which, again, could be anxiety-based). My nipples are perfectly normal.

Duuuuuude. Your issue is obvious… Trest! Fuckin A, side effects in a bottle for 9/10 people. Drop it and replace it with tren or another compound, or just drop it and stay on test. Trest bloated tf out of me, caused all sorts of weird digestive issues, fucked my estro, it’s just a garbage compound…

 

[mcjooce]

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mcjooce" pid='34477' dateline='1545152228:

Masterofron" pid='34465' dateline='1545133116:

mcjooce" pid='34447' dateline='1545112648:

Masterofron" pid='34385' dateline='1545083226:

Goddamnit OP. You don’t need AI yet. It’s too fucking soon. I don’t even want to explain why, but I’ll solve all your issues in one simple sentance- Do not use AI until you feel you need it.

“How do I know when I need it?”

Your niples are getting puffy and they itch. Maybe some acne and bloating as well.

Good luck!

Would you include increased anxiety in this list of when to use AI?

Look man, if your nipples aren’t fuckin sore, puffy, or itchy, your estro is fine. Anxiety can be could be caused by 10000 different things in your life. The answer to your question is yes, high estrogen can cause anxiety. Low estrogen can cause it too. Having normal estrogen levels can it depending on how damn far a person overthinks this. Since we are here, share with us your current symptoms/general feeling, as well as your cycle and cycle history.

OP change the title to low/high estro therapy discussion, and @“Swole Guacamole” pin this shot because it’s a daily topic.

I’m not prone to gyno. I’m running 1 gram test and 500 trest and I’m bloated AF, unusually anxious (which I agree could be anything) and my dick works fine, but my libido is way too low for that cycle (which, again, could be anxiety-based). My nipples are perfectly normal.

Duuuuuude. Your issue is obvious… Trest! Fuckin A, side effects in a bottle for 9/10 people. Drop it and replace it with tren or another compound, or just drop it and stay on test. Trest bloated tf out of me, caused all sorts of weird digestive issues, fucked my estro, it’s just a garbage compound…

Other than the anxiety — which I can’t 100% attribute to trest — I have had no sides other than minor bloating. On the other hand, the strength gains are fucking massive, so I’d prefer not to drop unless absolutely necessary.