awesome thanks for the reply. So you think 8 weeks off is enough to blast again? I’ve heard some people say time on = time off and others say 4-8 weeks is ok for test onlyDepends on your goals. You wanna be healthy? Take a month or two off and then blast again. You wanna be a freak? Start low dose (200mg Test) and slowly work your way up to 800mg by adding 150-200mg every 2 months, and once you reach 800mg, stay at that dose for 4-5 months then introduce either mast at half the dose of your test, or Tren at a 1/3rd of the dose of test
I just like to plan a head.Your bloods will tell you when to blast again. Why even think of the next one if you’re only two weeks in?
how would he do that on doc trtDepends on your goals. You wanna be healthy? Take a month or two off and then blast again. You wanna be a freak? Start low dose (200mg Test) and slowly work your way up to 800mg by adding 150-200mg every 2 months, and once you reach 800mg, stay at that dose for 4-5 months then introduce either mast at half the dose of your test, or Tren at a 1/3rd of the dose of test
doc checks my bloods every 6 months. so i figured if I blast for 12-16 weeks, I can come back down to my TRT dose with plenty of timePissedPajamas" pid='52984' dateline='1557870292:
how would he do that on doc trtDepends on your goals. You wanna be healthy? Take a month or two off and then blast again. You wanna be a freak? Start low dose (200mg Test) and slowly work your way up to 800mg by adding 150-200mg every 2 months, and once you reach 800mg, stay at that dose for 4-5 months then introduce either mast at half the dose of your test, or Tren at a 1/3rd of the dose of test
Same way I do, plan ahead of time and run short esters about two months before you turn in bloods. Drop all short esters about two weeks before bloods. I was just laying out a plan that would turn him into a big boyPissedPajamas" pid='52984' dateline='1557870292:
how would he do that on doc trtDepends on your goals. You wanna be healthy? Take a month or two off and then blast again. You wanna be a freak? Start low dose (200mg Test) and slowly work your way up to 800mg by adding 150-200mg every 2 months, and once you reach 800mg, stay at that dose for 4-5 months then introduce either mast at half the dose of your test, or Tren at a 1/3rd of the dose of test
PissedPajamas" pid='52984' dateline='1557870292:
awesome thanks for the reply. So you think 8 weeks off is enough to blast again? I’ve heard some people say time on = time off and others say 4-8 weeks is ok for test onlyDepends on your goals. You wanna be healthy? Take a month or two off and then blast again. You wanna be a freak? Start low dose (200mg Test) and slowly work your way up to 800mg by adding 150-200mg every 2 months, and once you reach 800mg, stay at that dose for 4-5 months then introduce either mast at half the dose of your test, or Tren at a 1/3rd of the dose of test
Socal_bobby" pid='52982' dateline='1557868539:
I just like to plan a head.Your bloods will tell you when to blast again. Why even think of the next one if you’re only two weeks in?
superawesomename" pid='52993' dateline='1557873530:
Same way I do, plan ahead of time and run short esters about two months before you turn in bloods. Drop all short esters about two weeks before bloods. I was just laying out a plan that would turn him into a big boyPissedPajamas" pid='52984' dateline='1557870292:
how would he do that on doc trtDepends on your goals. You wanna be healthy? Take a month or two off and then blast again. You wanna be a freak? Start low dose (200mg Test) and slowly work your way up to 800mg by adding 150-200mg every 2 months, and once you reach 800mg, stay at that dose for 4-5 months then introduce either mast at half the dose of your test, or Tren at a 1/3rd of the dose of test
09370z" pid='52992' dateline='1557873181:
PissedPajamas" pid='52984' dateline='1557870292:
awesome thanks for the reply. So you think 8 weeks off is enough to blast again? I’ve heard some people say time on = time off and others say 4-8 weeks is ok for test onlyDepends on your goals. You wanna be healthy? Take a month or two off and then blast again. You wanna be a freak? Start low dose (200mg Test) and slowly work your way up to 800mg by adding 150-200mg every 2 months, and once you reach 800mg, stay at that dose for 4-5 months then introduce either mast at half the dose of your test, or Tren at a 1/3rd of the dose of test
Socal_bobby" pid='52982' dateline='1557868539:
I just like to plan a head.Your bloods will tell you when to blast again. Why even think of the next one if you’re only two weeks in?
Time on/time off is an abstract rule revolving around increased myostatin signaling after time on and heightened cortisol output after long periods of AAS. Your body adapts to stress after a while and reaches homeostasis as shown with caffeine for example. Starting at a low dose and ramping up over time helps keeps you from plateauing due to myostatin. As long as you eat big and stay consistent and focus on progressive overload on a few lifts and MMC on others, you’ll make consistent gains and blow up
PissedPajamas" pid='52996' dateline='1557875564:
superawesomename" pid='52993' dateline='1557873530:
Same way I do, plan ahead of time and run short esters about two months before you turn in bloods. Drop all short esters about two weeks before bloods. I was just laying out a plan that would turn him into a big boyPissedPajamas" pid='52984' dateline='1557870292:
how would he do that on doc trtDepends on your goals. You wanna be healthy? Take a month or two off and then blast again. You wanna be a freak? Start low dose (200mg Test) and slowly work your way up to 800mg by adding 150-200mg every 2 months, and once you reach 800mg, stay at that dose for 4-5 months then introduce either mast at half the dose of your test, or Tren at a 1/3rd of the dose of test
09370z" pid='52992' dateline='1557873181:
PissedPajamas" pid='52984' dateline='1557870292:
awesome thanks for the reply. So you think 8 weeks off is enough to blast again? I’ve heard some people say time on = time off and others say 4-8 weeks is ok for test onlyDepends on your goals. You wanna be healthy? Take a month or two off and then blast again. You wanna be a freak? Start low dose (200mg Test) and slowly work your way up to 800mg by adding 150-200mg every 2 months, and once you reach 800mg, stay at that dose for 4-5 months then introduce either mast at half the dose of your test, or Tren at a 1/3rd of the dose of test
Socal_bobby" pid='52982' dateline='1557868539:
I just like to plan a head.Your bloods will tell you when to blast again. Why even think of the next one if you’re only two weeks in?
Time on/time off is an abstract rule revolving around increased myostatin signaling after time on and heightened cortisol output after long periods of AAS. Your body adapts to stress after a while and reaches homeostasis as shown with caffeine for example. Starting at a low dose and ramping up over time helps keeps you from plateauing due to myostatin. As long as you eat big and stay consistent and focus on progressive overload on a few lifts and MMC on others, you’ll make consistent gains and blow up
thanks for explaining everything! If I’m running Test E my blood levels should be back to TRT blood levels within 2 weeks? And and how long do you usually blast and cruise?
09370z" pid='52999' dateline='1557877476:
PissedPajamas" pid='52996' dateline='1557875564:
superawesomename" pid='52993' dateline='1557873530:
Same way I do, plan ahead of time and run short esters about two months before you turn in bloods. Drop all short esters about two weeks before bloods. I was just laying out a plan that would turn him into a big boyPissedPajamas" pid='52984' dateline='1557870292:
how would he do that on doc trtDepends on your goals. You wanna be healthy? Take a month or two off and then blast again. You wanna be a freak? Start low dose (200mg Test) and slowly work your way up to 800mg by adding 150-200mg every 2 months, and once you reach 800mg, stay at that dose for 4-5 months then introduce either mast at half the dose of your test, or Tren at a 1/3rd of the dose of test
09370z" pid='52992' dateline='1557873181:
PissedPajamas" pid='52984' dateline='1557870292:
awesome thanks for the reply. So you think 8 weeks off is enough to blast again? I’ve heard some people say time on = time off and others say 4-8 weeks is ok for test onlyDepends on your goals. You wanna be healthy? Take a month or two off and then blast again. You wanna be a freak? Start low dose (200mg Test) and slowly work your way up to 800mg by adding 150-200mg every 2 months, and once you reach 800mg, stay at that dose for 4-5 months then introduce either mast at half the dose of your test, or Tren at a 1/3rd of the dose of test
Socal_bobby" pid='52982' dateline='1557868539:
I just like to plan a head.Your bloods will tell you when to blast again. Why even think of the next one if you’re only two weeks in?
Time on/time off is an abstract rule revolving around increased myostatin signaling after time on and heightened cortisol output after long periods of AAS. Your body adapts to stress after a while and reaches homeostasis as shown with caffeine for example. Starting at a low dose and ramping up over time helps keeps you from plateauing due to myostatin. As long as you eat big and stay consistent and focus on progressive overload on a few lifts and MMC on others, you’ll make consistent gains and blow up
thanks for explaining everything! If I’m running Test E my blood levels should be back to TRT blood levels within 2 weeks? And and how long do you usually blast and cruise?
I blast as long as I can while staying healthy and sane and rotate compounds. Blast for 5 months cruise for 1 month to get bloods back to normal for my 6 month mark bloodwork. Been doing that for 1.5 years since I started trt and put on 50lbs of mass more or less
Super timely post - on TRT(150mg/week) via well known trt tele-clinic…Are you running Test-E or Prop?
Currently I’m injecting 3x/week Test-Cyp. I aromitize higher than average, combined with a low(er) SHBG of 17.1(range 16.5-55.9)…
150MG/Week has me at 1118 Total Test, 32.2 Free - bloods 48 hrs after last injection.
PissedPajamas" pid='53004' dateline='1557879370:
09370z" pid='52999' dateline='1557877476:
PissedPajamas" pid='52996' dateline='1557875564:
superawesomename" pid='52993' dateline='1557873530:
Same way I do, plan ahead of time and run short esters about two months before you turn in bloods. Drop all short esters about two weeks before bloods. I was just laying out a plan that would turn him into a big boyhow would he do that on doc trt
09370z" pid='52992' dateline='1557873181:
awesome thanks for the reply. So you think 8 weeks off is enough to blast again? I’ve heard some people say time on = time off and others say 4-8 weeks is ok for test only
I just like to plan a head.
Time on/time off is an abstract rule revolving around increased myostatin signaling after time on and heightened cortisol output after long periods of AAS. Your body adapts to stress after a while and reaches homeostasis as shown with caffeine for example. Starting at a low dose and ramping up over time helps keeps you from plateauing due to myostatin. As long as you eat big and stay consistent and focus on progressive overload on a few lifts and MMC on others, you’ll make consistent gains and blow up
thanks for explaining everything! If I’m running Test E my blood levels should be back to TRT blood levels within 2 weeks? And and how long do you usually blast and cruise?
I blast as long as I can while staying healthy and sane and rotate compounds. Blast for 5 months cruise for 1 month to get bloods back to normal for my 6 month mark bloodwork. Been doing that for 1.5 years since I started trt and put on 50lbs of mass more or less
Every 6 months@“PissedPajamas” I have bloods every 3 months, how frequent does defy make you draw?
Good to know bro, that’s what she said I’m going to next time. Looks like I got my winter bulk all set then lolsuperawesomename" pid='53096' dateline='1557945477:
Every 6 months@“PissedPajamas” I have bloods every 3 months, how frequent does defy make you draw?
PissedPajamas" pid='53103' dateline='1557948396:
Good to know bro, that’s what she said I’m going to next time. Looks like I got my winter bulk all set then lolsuperawesomename" pid='53096' dateline='1557945477:
Every 6 months@“PissedPajamas” I have bloods every 3 months, how frequent does defy make you draw?