Blast vs "on steroids" vs cruise/trt

[vtopsecret]

Is 200mg of Test and 150mg of Deca considered a "blast"? What constitutes a blast/cruise.. is it subjective? Or is it just considered a small cycle? Sorry i'm new and just wondering.

Thanks for your input.

 

[Metflex17]

200mg for many is a cruise dose. Adding anything else makes it a blast IMO. For a real blast, I’d up the test, and if you’ve never done anything, test only is the way to go.

 

[Qvillain]

If you inject gear regularly you are “on steroids”. I’m “on TRT” with my little 100mg a week. My only “blast” was 400wk test C and 25mg of var for 10ish weeks before my blood pressure started climbing a little too much for comfort.

Everyone reacts differently. I seem to do pretty well with low dosages. I have a buddy that cruises 300 test and blasts 1-2 grams total. He also bleeds himself into the bathtub to keep his RBC count low. I don’t want to do that.

 

[bluescat510]

Cruise = your test levels are "within normal range", which is below 1100 ng/dL if I remember correctly. Depends when bloods are drawn and the ester of test used as well. For Test E/C, 72 hours after last pin is about ideal time to draw bloods.

Adding anything else whether injectable or oral would make it a "mini blast". Just my .02, of course. Also want to mention potency of test from each UGL varies. I've had bloods where 100mg test-e/wk put me over natty range and others where 175mg put me slightly below natty range.

 

[bluescat510]

He also bleeds himself into the bathtub to keep his RBC count low. I don’t want to do that.

I hope someone is monitoring him when he does that. Would be devastating if he passed out mid blood-letting and nobody there to pull that butterfly needle out. How come he doesn't just donate blood?

 

[goodfella]

At those doses with those two compounds, it's basically a hrt/trt protocol for hea;th benefits and aging. Although thats not to say that it's not a cycle for some, but this is what some will get prescribed from their Doctors at trt/hrt clinics.

A blast by my definition is a heavy cycle of different compounds, at doses above what you usually cruise on, trt/hrt on.

 

[AlexDavis43]

*meh*

physiological replacement: 70 mg/wk

TRT: 100 mg/wk

TRT+: 120 mg/wk

TRT clinics: 200 mg/wk

Some people: 200 mg/wk is a cycle/blast.

 

[Metflex17]

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*meh*

physiological replacement: 70 mg/wk

TRT: 100 mg/wk

TRT+: 120 mg/wk

TRT clinics: 200 mg/wk

Some people: 200 mg/wk is a cycle/blast.

Love this. I was in the TRT clinic 200mg starter boat. Why you think they start here, more frequent purchases since they charge over $130 for test?

 

[petefox]

Highly loaded question as many will have a different "correct" answer to it, as always here's my $0.02 on the meanings:

TRT: Too many drug-mills go with 200mg test per week as a means to get that loot. Very few will actually look at labs and set a starting dose before tapering up. I see the appeal, way cheaper to just find a quality UGL and dose yourself. My script TRT is 120mg/wk which keeps me around 850-900ng, feels pretty good at 48yrs old.

Blast: I've always stuck with a lower-dosed approach as the ability to see sides manifest is more manageable. Once again, for me a blast can look a few different ways:

1. Increased test intake (ester not important as I micro dose weekly)
2. Secondary injectable is run either at half or along with test dose (so 200mg each for example)
3. Oral may be added for minimum 6 weeks, depending on goals either daily or pre-workout.
4. Total androgen intake on a weekly basis never goes over 600mg, orals counted in that.
5. Full-panel labs done prior to blast, 4-5 weeks in and 1 week after tapering down to TRT levels of test.

TRT+: Also subjective, imo a very short blast with minimal androgen load as a way to augment current intake (mini-cut or recomp, which I don't personally do).

Once again, loaded question with many answers that are either argued as fact/gospel/only way or what has been seen personally that may/may not work for many others.

 

[Metflex17]

Highly loaded question as many will have a different "correct" answer to it, as always here's my $0.02 on the meanings:

TRT: Too many drug-mills go with 200mg test per week as a means to get that loot. Very few will actually look at labs and set a starting dose before tapering up. I see the appeal, way cheaper to just find a quality UGL and dose yourself. My script TRT is 120mg/wk which keeps me around 850-900ng, feels pretty good at 48yrs old.

Blast: I've always stuck with a lower-dosed approach as the ability to see sides manifest is more manageable. Once again, for me a blast can look a few different ways:

1. Increased test intake (ester not important as I micro dose weekly)
2. Secondary injectable is run either at half or along with test dose (so 200mg each for example)
3. Oral may be added for minimum 6 weeks, depending on goals either daily or pre-workout.
4. Total androgen intake on a weekly basis never goes over 600mg, orals counted in that.
5. Full-panel labs done prior to blast, 4-5 weeks in and 1 week after tapering down to TRT levels of test.

TRT+: Also subjective, imo a very short blast with minimal androgen load as a way to augment current intake (mini-cut or recomp, which I don't personally do).

Once again, loaded question with many answers that are either argued as fact/gospel/only way or what has been seen personally that may/may not work for many others.

Love this philosophy, it’s what I’m aspiring to do being fairly new to this and also pretty conservative. I’m not looking to bulk up too much, just trying to add another 5 lbs of muscle and drop 2-3% body fat and maintain there. Bloods done right before, coming out of my cruise, though I pin daily and got bloodwork about 30 hours after my last pin. Didnt know how to navigate this since I didn’t want to miss a day. I’ll get bloods done again after I taper down, probably in May.

Currently in week 5 of a blast (350 test c/190 primo/50 var). I was cruising at 200mg a week, but had some issues with chest acne I prefer not to deal with. Going to finish out this blast and taper down to 175mg a week and see how that feels. Hopefully I can just maintain lean mass and most of the strength gains there for the summer. Maybe a mini-cut in May or June if need be. I won’t go much more than 500mg total intake, but I’m also 5’6” and 163. I’d like to maintain 165 at around 12% bf, still trying to figure out my best path to get there nutritionally during this blast.

 

[AlexDavis43]

Love this philosophy, it’s what I’m aspiring to do being fairly new to this and also pretty conservative. I’m not looking to bulk up too much, just trying to add another 5 lbs of muscle and drop 2-3% body fat and maintain there. Bloods done right before, coming out of my cruise, though I pin daily and got bloodwork about 30 hours after my last pin. Didnt know how to navigate this since I didn’t want to miss a day. I’ll get bloods done again after I taper down, probably in May.

Currently in week 5 of a blast (350 test c/190 primo/50 var). I was cruising at 200mg a week, but had some issues with chest acne I prefer not to deal with. Going to finish out this blast and taper down to 175mg a week and see how that feels. Hopefully I can just maintain lean mass and most of the strength gains there for the summer. Maybe a mini-cut in May or June if need be. I won’t go much more than 500mg total intake, but I’m also 5’6” and 163. I’d like to maintain 165 at around 12% bf, still trying to figure out my best path to get there nutritionally during this blast.

I don't know too much of your history but have you explored GH/IGF-1 avenues?

 

[Metflex17]

I don't know too much of your history but have you explored GH/IGF-1 avenues?

Family history of cancer, and tested positive for the gene that my family has, causing numerous people to have and pass from cancer. Very hesitant to go in that direction.

 

[AlexDavis43]

Family history of cancer, and tested positive for the gene that my family has, causing numerous people to have and pass from cancer. Very hesitant to go in that direction.

Thanks for that. I understand your concern.